The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

^ AtRG made my top ten as well, and I think "his aesthetics resonate with me or something" is about as good a defense as i could really provide for why I love that movie.

man 0/15 so far, the only one i considered out of those was Morvern Callar and that didn't make the cut. Have a feeling my tastes are a little bit too askew from the ilx film massive to get any representation on this poll. :-(

2 of my votes have made it so far (Happy-Go-Lucky and Together), but I'm kinda happy about how the poll has turned out so far. Majority of my votes were for "international" (i.e. non-USA/UK) movies, and I thought few of them had a chance here, but if films like Together and Memories of Murder made it, then there might still be a chance that Songs from the Second Floor or Persepolis or The Isle or Look at Me is yet to come. I think the variety of movies in the top 85-100 is positively wide, even if I don't care for some of the individual choices.

I've been very poor these last couple of years (as many have) and don't have a local indie cinema, so I'm sad to say I've had to watch a lot of flicks via t*r*e*t, but subtitles on foreign films often don't come through on our DVD player unless hard-coded. Therefore I'm missing out on a lot of decent foreign films.

Ah, I thought The Isle was 1990's, otherwise I'd have voted for it. 2 other Kim Ki-duk films made it to my ballot, can't see them charting somehow...I'm still hoping The Werckmeister Harmonies will creep in though.

I've realised that the existence of David Gordon Green has passed me by completely before now.

More elitist, snobby comments coming soon!

I'm still hoping The Werckmeister Harmonies will creep in though.

I've realised that the existence of David Gordon Green has passed me by completely before now.

I agree with you on both of these.

man 0/15 so far

Shasta, you are aligned w/ me BRAH

0/15 here too.

2/15, but I have a feeling my list looks way different than you guys's lists.

3/15 for me

0/15

Sorry, actually I have 3/15: Happy-Go-Lucky, The Piano Teacher, and Together. I can't remember any other ILX poll with such a high convergence... In the 1970s album poll I got 3/100.

Will rep hard for Minority Report, but not on a thread where people are wanking over Von Trier.

I would read your reps.

Minority Report is tight as a drum for all but the problematic final 20 mins, looks amazing, has excellent support turns and Tom Cruise is actually watchable in it.

But just going back to design & visuals alone it delivers- performances and pacing on top make it well worth it's (low) slot on the list.

LvT dig was probably unfair, as there have probably been as many LvT haters as not on.

High Fidelity & Sideways also low placers on my ballot, so I guess any further of my pics will be met with the requisite derision also.

Just hoping Kung Fu Hustle makes top 10 tbh.

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I don't remember that bit but would have put in higher in my ballot if I did.

But just going back to design & visuals alone it delivers

yeah i wish i could think of the right word to describe the visuals....

that shit with the spiders was old hat and on some speilberg kids movie shit

oh no, it was like something from spielberg's best movies!

im 0/15 but i have an exceedingly strong suspicion that the majority of my ballot choices will make it

3/15, but they're the bottom three, and I only gave Morvern Callar around 4 points, so was never particularly invested in it getting in. The high scoring has made me give up on Songs getting in, too, as I think there are only about three of us who love it.

I had Songs From The Second Floor at around #20. 2/15 for me so far (Tropical Malady and Memories Of Murder). Um, did anyone else vote for Cremaster 3?

1/15, happy-go-juggalo

nowt of mine yet. I don't really like many of LvTs films but his reductio ad absurdum of emotional engagement w/ cinema isn't something you can 'hate' neatly. he IS a troll, feeling anything towards him is as awkward/questionable as feeling anything towards his characters. I think he's maybe patronising towards cinema in general and to his own films perhaps but not to the audience or any other group in particular. I'm not expecting Five Obstructions to place but seeing his efforts laid bare against leth's stoicism and hearing him admit his own failure was sort of great, and some of the shorts were awesome.

2/15 - friedmans/real girls

do still expect at least say 1/3 of mine to show

My ballot was pretty canon, so I think about 15 of mine should place.

this is a real silent majority poll imo. i've hardly ever heard ne1 rep for 'all the real girls'.

this is a real silent majority poll imo

Yes. 100+ ballots? Most film threads are like 4 people yelling at each other.

2/15 (Napoleon and High Fidelity). I'm actually surprised that I've seen six of the movies above, as my movie viewing (of movies released this decade, anyway) has really tapered off as the last ten years have elapsed. For example, just went to see Bogdonavich's Nickelodeon (1976) the other night, which I'm pretty sure is the fourth film I've seen in theaters over the last 12 months. So my ballot may be a wholly unfair representative of what the oughts had to offer.

to belabor the lvt, i'll say again that i think he cares way more about entertaining an audience than most of his miserabilist cohort. he's a showman in a way that, say, haneke is too stiff-lipped to be. that can make him annoying, in a sort of "jokes, bruv" way, but i really think he's more of a ringmaster than a bully or a sadist. (and of course whether the audience is actually entertained is a whole other variable.)

tipsy OTM

LvT may not want you to feel good about yourself, but Haneke doesn't want you to feel good about yourself and he also doesn't want you to be entertained.

I don't think him a sadist or a bully or even a misogynist really, I just think his shenanigans are dull. It's a shame, really, because a lot of Antichrist is really great, but then he's got to belabor the point with the last 40 or so minutes. 'So you think I hate women? Well hows about this!!' He can't do anything subtly.

1 for me (High Fidelity, which I gave 7 points).

4/15 (Morvern, Talk to Her, Together, ATRG)

'So you think I hate women? Well hows about this!!' He can't do anything subtly.

see i totally don't think that's what that's about. but i guess we hashed all that out on the antichrist thread. it's just, i have this feeling that while with some directors people are at pains to read all kinds of nuance into material that might not sustain it, with von trier there's an opposite tendency to take his provocations at face value, or less than face value, and assume that's all he's doing. but of course when you put a self-clitorectomy right there on screen, you take the risk that that's all people are going to see.

have you seen the Europa DVD? On the supplements he pretty much says "I'm full of shit" a couple of times.

I still love The Kingdom, esp the first half.

the Jamie Foxx movie?

I'd pay to see LvT direct the feature-length

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Watching VT films these days is very similar to watching Neveldine/Taylor's Gamer in that at some point they can only really be appreciated as academic exercises. And that grates.

I would be stunned if Werkmeister Harmonies doesn't make it.

doesn't fixed

I've not seen it, but from threads and elsewhere I think it's got the momentum. Just depends on the silent voters. Probably in the same boat as Miami Vice or even The New World.

Of course, if neither of those three make it, what types of films would the silent voter block be going for? Crash? Will there be a LOTR vote split?

i sorta liked 'werkmeister'. wouldn't vot for it. why so gloomy, europeans? you have it easy.

I really don't see Decasia having 230 pts either. I'll live.

Decasia and Werkmeister are massive blindspots for me.

I think we'll get a better idea of the direction the poll is going if we start seeing oddball films pop up in the next couple of rounds. if even one non-consensus film show up, stuff like birth, martyrs, songs from second floor, etc, there's hope that a passionate minority could lift a film.

for instance, if 10 people rated decasia in their top ten it would get at least 310 pts which would still get it ranked. I'm not expecting that to happen, but it's within the realm of possibility.

i'm mostly expecting to start seeing things like apatow movies showing up. but maybe i'm expecting too little.

also, awesomely funny movies about oilmen and Natzis