The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

what was bullshit about it?

the east germans don't you know

i'm with you sarahel on the conversation connection fwiw

Is LJ banned again?

At his own request (again), jaymc.

lives of others was pretty stupid but s1ocki otm, it did look rabishing

if yr into that ostalgia thing i mean

weird to see my old login qtd about Lives of Others, of all things. i liked the movie, i enjoyed watching it, insofar as i enjoyed the mechanics of the plot it constructed: who knows what about whom, and when, and why people act on incorrect information, that the audience knows is false -- all that romeo and juliet shit at the end. but yeah it's deeply deeply dishonest about how its subjects lives would really have been. turns out totalitarianism isn't that dramatic, insert arendt quote here.

i really didn't like All The Real Girls. i watched it with a date and she was all "what decade is this is supposed be in" and that kind of popped the bubble on the whole thing. DGG's "lyricism of ruined quotidian life" doesn't have enough juggalo in it, if u get me. plus zoey desch is garbage. a literal piece of garbage walking around. she's horrible.

under-sung movie I think of along with ATRG - The Good Girl. I didn't think to vote for it, but it has everything good about Green's movies without the film-school project qualities.

would definitely watch a david gordon green juggalo movie.

One of Jake G's better performances too.

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needs more juggalo in it

lives of others was awarded Most R-U-Kidding Movie of the Decade by me because it was one of these things that like 10 friends all raved about to me -- like really, really loved it -- and i thought it was really some bullshit.

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:27 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what was bullshit about it?

the soul of Stasi agents getting warmed by the magic power of Rilke poems.

but I'm sure it's been amply discussed upthread.

alfred otm.

(and i liked the good girl too, tho the end goes sort of off the rails. john c. reilly is great in that.)

plus zoey desch is garbage. a literal piece of garbage walking around. she's horrible.

― goole, Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:39 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

the hell man?

saw 10min of 'the good girl': awful.

do her fucking bicycling-around-the-shops cotton industry ads w/ self-penned song air in the UK? she is horrible. this is probly lex-ish but i don't care. terrible person, thoroughly.

86. All the Real Juggalos
87. Minority Juggalo
88. Juggalos of Murder
89. The Lives of Juggalos
90. Juggalos Together
91. Talk to Juggalos
92. Juggalo Malady
93. Sideways (it's about Juggalos, trust me)
94. Napoleon Juggalo
95. Capturing the Juggalos
96. Juggalo Fidelity
97. Happy-Go-Juggalo
98. Juggaloville
99. The Juggalo Teacher
100. Movern Juggalo

mcl

I wonder what a Lars von Trier movie about Juggalos would be like.

I wonder what an Apichatpong Weerasethakul movie about Juggalos would be like.

I haven't seen much of zoey desch but wasn't she in Weeds? loved that character...

hypothetical juggalo movies should have its own thread

A Mike Leigh film about Juggalos for god's sake...

you think indie fuqs are bad, imagine going into a record store run by juggalos

do her fucking bicycling-around-the-shops cotton industry ads w/ self-penned song air in the UK?

no.

omg that list i laughed so much i got acid reflux

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJFutyUrllo

jed, just wait till we get further up the list:

Anchorjuggalo
Juggalos on a Plane
Pan's Juggalo
No Country for Old Juggalos

you think Juggalos on a Plane will place?

There are definitely things about Zooey ca. 2010 that I'm not surprised people hate on (even if it's the usual bullshit narcissism-of-small-differences anti-hipster stuff ILXors traffic in, like "oh God she's VEGAN" or "oh God she wears VINTAGE CLOTHES" or "oh God she's married to BEN GIBBARD"), but it's worth mentioning that in 2003 I had no idea who she was and only barely remembered, after reading reviews of All the Real Girls that pointed it out, that she was in Almost Famous.

yr prob the only person on the thread who knew all those things about her

I knew she was in Almost Famous!

Maybe on this thread, jed. I remember some of that stuff being mentioned on the Top Chef: Masters thread.

oh God she was on TOP CHEF

lol

lol that ZD ad for cotton is lame but why that would inspire intense hatred is a mystery. (unless you really hate big cotton)

glad to see my first targeted corny indie haterz vote hit the mark re: AtRG

i really want someone to make "the juggalo teacher" tbh

Re Zooey:

why do you all want 'rich daughters of hollywood' to have all the pathetic indie quirks of your quirky indie friends??!?!

― trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:18 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i guess maybe someday she'll get naked in a movie and omg itll be like looking at an indie girl naked!!!!!!

― trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:19 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

b-but trife she plays the banjo!

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:19 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't dislike All the Real Girls, but ever since George Washington David Gordon Green has struggled to write scripts that fit his peculiar rhythms and images. I don't know, fer instance, whether the tension between Paul Schneider's warm, natural performance in ATRG and Green's abstraction produces something worthwhile.

The sauna scene was hot though.

"93. Sideways (it's about Juggalos, trust me)"
I also vouch for Sideways' Juggaloesiness.

Green has definitely had diminishing returns (Pineapple Express excluded). Only scenes of any real merit in Snow Angels were the ones with the kid and Olivia Thirlby, and even then only one or two of them.

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btw not seen Sideways since theaters and this has made me really want to watch it again.

Green has definitely had diminishing returns

i haven't seen snow angels, but i kinda liked undertow. again as much for the locales as for the story, i just really like his sense of the south, his places definitely feel like places i've been.

otoh a dgg/natalie portman suspiria sounds like an awful idea. is that really happening?

I don't think any DGG films are actually bad, they're just less than the previous. I liked a lot of Undertow, and as a Southern boy I feel a connection with the rusted out crapholes he liked to shoot in his first three films.

I didn't know about that suspiria remake, and I'm not going to look it up to confirm.

xp - jaymc - is this similar to why people disliked Winona Ryder in the 90s? I vaguely remember disliking her for narcissism-of-small-differences reasons.

George Washington better be DVG's highest ranking film...

Biggest shocker so far in the thread (in a good way!):

Kinda loved HiFid but didn't come close to making my 40. Best movie on list so far tho.

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 12:35 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

I think Napoleon Dynamite might be my favorite of those listed thus far (despite having given another film that's already placed more points on my hastily-composed ballot), which should go a long way towards cementing my status as a Film Heathen. I kinda wish that ND was one of those movies that nobody else knew about, because it seems to be a movie that nobody really gets. Like, if I'd randomly stumbled upon it as some obscure, bottom-shelf video store selection, I'd've larfed, but I doubt I would've recommended it to many people. The characters' affectless lack of interest in their fates, as they blithely lope from one meaningless misadventure to the next, is like comedy gold to me. Give me subtle, minimalist, dopey comedy like this over anything loud and self-satisfied and desperate for attention anyday.