The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

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I felt pretty close to what Jamyc wrote when I first saw All the Real Girls. Flawed, but full of subjective love because it really hit the right notes with me. I saw it again last year and it doesn't hold up as well. There's lots of awkwardness in his directing and there were a few too many of those 'meaningful' precious moments (that still of the bowling alley being a prime example). But it was still beautifully shot, still oddly moving at times, its heart is in the right place, and the central relationships still works really well.

I rewatched Minority Report a few months back, and it was still pretty thrilling. It looked great and it was a lot of fun. The only thing that was really wrong with the ending was the deus ex-wife, but it was one of the better thrillers I saw.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, I expect I would not love ATRG as much at 31 as I did at 24, though I will still defend aspects of it, esp. that motel-room scene.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

ATRG seems like one of those movies I'd be emotionally affected by, then get angry at because of that, and so I avoid them completely.

sarahel, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

i saw minority report in the theater when it came out, and it was a trip, colin farrell was great in it.. i have no recollection of what went on in the movie so i didn't think to vote for it. these days, i really appreciate the craft that goes into making a good thriller, but i didn't pay attention at the time & just saw it as entertaining.

kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

i prefer to look at and listen to Tom Cruise as little as possible - this played a major role in me disliking Minority Report.

sarahel, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

mean-spirited in what way?

it's about ugly people

― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 7:09 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i come back from a nice middle class meal out to see this? would ND be better spirited if it were about pretty and nice people?

on second thoughts don't answer, sure your zings are ready

do you want to be happier? (whatever), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

i found the central story of all the real girls sort of dull, iirc (it's a little hazy). but i really liked the sense of place, the town, the general feel for the lives of those characters -- also things i liked about george washington, which i think is a better movie so i voted for it instead of atrg.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

i liked ALRG even moreso when i rescreened it recently. it's not something id vigorously defend cuz it does feel v. subjective and it find the cutesy/emo-ness more grating than endearing than im ok w/ that~

all the side friends are objectively great imo tho...<3 <3 <3 mcbride as bustass & tip, they make for some fantastic scenes

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:05 (sixteen years ago)

dang should be "if u" find

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

catching up on some of the earlier virulence it will be interesting to see what ppls lists are once the dust has settled....

do you want to be happier? (whatever), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

or why don't you have an invites only poll?

do you want to be happier? (whatever), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:07 (sixteen years ago)

Minority Report is the only one from my ballot to appear so far. #29 on my ballot, but if it had ended with the scene where the Cruiser is incarcerated in carbon freezing or whatever the hell that was, it would've been higher.
It's a bit messy, looking back on it, though it has a stack of really memorable shots (small things too, but clever, like the umbrellas, and the balloons). A lot of product placement too. A LOT.

DavidM, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:10 (sixteen years ago)

I actually watched Minority Report for the product placement.

sarahel, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:13 (sixteen years ago)

by poster request:

dear assholes of internet, try to keep it positive and make me want to see things, love, louis

sarahel, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:17 (sixteen years ago)

too bad, chew on our hate

rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1120519/photo_09_hires.jpg

^like this scene w/ tip drinking 24 oz old styles, callin himself a pussy, and paul ttly taking the piss outta his seriousness is fab

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

bah

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1120519/photo_09_hires.jpg

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

The Lives of Others seemed roughly as dishonest about its political epoch as Mississippi Burning was about its.

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 9:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

do you mean the political epochs in which the films were made? roughly?

do you want to be happier? (whatever), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:22 (sixteen years ago)

lives of others was awarded Most R-U-Kidding Movie of the Decade by me because it was one of these things that like 10 friends all raved about to me -- like really, really loved it -- and i thought it was really some bullshit.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

what was bullshit about it?

sarahel, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:28 (sixteen years ago)

the east germans don't you know

do you want to be happier? (whatever), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

i'm with you sarahel on the conversation connection fwiw

do you want to be happier? (whatever), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

Is LJ banned again?

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

At his own request (again), jaymc.

hatorade (Pashmina), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

lives of others was pretty stupid but s1ocki otm, it did look rabishing

jabba hands, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

if yr into that ostalgia thing i mean

jabba hands, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

weird to see my old login qtd about Lives of Others, of all things. i liked the movie, i enjoyed watching it, insofar as i enjoyed the mechanics of the plot it constructed: who knows what about whom, and when, and why people act on incorrect information, that the audience knows is false -- all that romeo and juliet shit at the end. but yeah it's deeply deeply dishonest about how its subjects lives would really have been. turns out totalitarianism isn't that dramatic, insert arendt quote here.

i really didn't like All The Real Girls. i watched it with a date and she was all "what decade is this is supposed be in" and that kind of popped the bubble on the whole thing. DGG's "lyricism of ruined quotidian life" doesn't have enough juggalo in it, if u get me. plus zoey desch is garbage. a literal piece of garbage walking around. she's horrible.

goole, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

under-sung movie I think of along with ATRG - The Good Girl. I didn't think to vote for it, but it has everything good about Green's movies without the film-school project qualities.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

would definitely watch a david gordon green juggalo movie.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:44 (sixteen years ago)

One of Jake G's better performances too.

xpost

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:44 (sixteen years ago)

needs more juggalo in it

sarahel, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:45 (sixteen years ago)

lives of others was awarded Most R-U-Kidding Movie of the Decade by me because it was one of these things that like 10 friends all raved about to me -- like really, really loved it -- and i thought it was really some bullshit.

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:27 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what was bullshit about it?

the soul of Stasi agents getting warmed by the magic power of Rilke poems.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

but I'm sure it's been amply discussed upthread.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

alfred otm.

(and i liked the good girl too, tho the end goes sort of off the rails. john c. reilly is great in that.)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:47 (sixteen years ago)

plus zoey desch is garbage. a literal piece of garbage walking around. she's horrible.

― goole, Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:39 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

the hell man?

saw 10min of 'the good girl': awful.

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:48 (sixteen years ago)

do her fucking bicycling-around-the-shops cotton industry ads w/ self-penned song air in the UK? she is horrible. this is probly lex-ish but i don't care. terrible person, thoroughly.

goole, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:50 (sixteen years ago)

86. All the Real Juggalos
87. Minority Juggalo
88. Juggalos of Murder
89. The Lives of Juggalos
90. Juggalos Together
91. Talk to Juggalos
92. Juggalo Malady
93. Sideways (it's about Juggalos, trust me)
94. Napoleon Juggalo
95. Capturing the Juggalos
96. Juggalo Fidelity
97. Happy-Go-Juggalo
98. Juggaloville
99. The Juggalo Teacher
100. Movern Juggalo

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

mcl

goole, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:52 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder what a Lars von Trier movie about Juggalos would be like.

sarahel, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:52 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder what an Apichatpong Weerasethakul movie about Juggalos would be like.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

I haven't seen much of zoey desch but wasn't she in Weeds? loved that character...

Dan S, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

hypothetical juggalo movies should have its own thread

sarahel, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:58 (sixteen years ago)

A Mike Leigh film about Juggalos for god's sake...

DavidM, Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

you think indie fuqs are bad, imagine going into a record store run by juggalos

johnny crunch, Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

do her fucking bicycling-around-the-shops cotton industry ads w/ self-penned song air in the UK?

no.

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

omg that list i laughed so much i got acid reflux

jed_, Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:02 (sixteen years ago)

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJFutyUrllo

goole, Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:03 (sixteen years ago)

jed, just wait till we get further up the list:

Anchorjuggalo
Juggalos on a Plane
Pan's Juggalo
No Country for Old Juggalos

sarahel, Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:03 (sixteen years ago)

you think Juggalos on a Plane will place?

jed_, Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:06 (sixteen years ago)

There are definitely things about Zooey ca. 2010 that I'm not surprised people hate on (even if it's the usual bullshit narcissism-of-small-differences anti-hipster stuff ILXors traffic in, like "oh God she's VEGAN" or "oh God she wears VINTAGE CLOTHES" or "oh God she's married to BEN GIBBARD"), but it's worth mentioning that in 2003 I had no idea who she was and only barely remembered, after reading reviews of All the Real Girls that pointed it out, that she was in Almost Famous.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:07 (sixteen years ago)


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