Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

Is it Tuesday yet? :(

Pretty sure the Dharma zoology program was already running in 1977, so don't see why the dharma shark means that the island didn't blow up in 1977, but that would be one very old shark in that case. I just assumed it was an easter egg.

I think the 2004 flight is a post-war flashforward, not that I know how exactly they'll end up back in Sydney.. but I do think linearly, the flight is the last thing to happen in one timeline.

That's how I see it too. Guess that makes the alt scenes flashbackforwardsideways?

I think you guys might be overthinking it... well, I don't think the Dharma shark thing is meant to reveal anything. Hitting the bomb worked, creating an alternate timeline with a sunken island, but it didn't destroy the existing one (where the Hatch was built, 815 crashed, etc) so the crew returned to the 2007 of that timeline. Hopefully Sun and Jin meet sooner than later! They're inevitably gonna merge the two universes somehow. (I bet they all have to choose which universe they want to save.) For now, I'm really enjoying the ride that we're getting with alt-2004... 2004-X.

yeah it was nice to see the old, sweet hapless John Locke back on the plane

If it turns out Palin won in alt timeline, blow that timeline up, too.

I think we've got the alt history covered here

it was really sweet seeing terry oquinn reprise his role as early-Lost locke.

cuse/lindelof interviews are always so boring because they can't tell us anything we don't already know.

season 6 = the it's a wonderful life season

Quite enjoyed this though I thought they wasted too much time padding out stuff everyone knew already, and had to bludgeon a few bits, "OH JUST IN CASE YOU ARE DUMB FAKE LOCKE IS THE SMOKE MONSTER, OKAY??? LETS HAVE HIM SAY SOMETHING THAT TELLS US THIS AGAIN."

Yeah, that was nice. MIB can't touch Jacob, so Jacob's ashes become the circles of ash that stop MIB

This doesn't make any sense, didn't the temple people say something about spreading ashes when they shot the flare etc? So clearly it's not Jacob's ashes as they had only just found out he was dead. Plus the cabin was surrounded by ashes and Jacob was alive at that point. It's obviously ashes of another kind or just any old ash.

WTF is up with Kate btw, literally 2 mins after Sayid has died and she is washing Sawyer's face with a big fucking beaming smile. Do they even realise what a vile human being they have written?

The alternate timeline thing is sort of weird...definitely think they're stressing the differences in people's lives, eg Hurley being lucky etc, Shannon not being on the flight. I think behind this the implication is that the bomb plan was for the best. Directly after Sawyer goes mental and is threatening to kill Jack (after one of the times he does this) it cuts back to the flight and the air hostess saying to Jack "some people just don't know how to say thanks."

Was there any significance in Smokey/Locke cutting off a piece of the rug or tapestry thing in the room where Jacon died? I just thought the size and shape of the piece he cut off to wipe the knife on was almost exactly the same as the piece of rug the shadow of the statue dudes found in the cabin...

wondering if Sayid is now like Richard and will live without ageing. but presumably he went thru a totally different process to young Ben. maybe Sayid has now "gained" innocence (ha, undeservedly if so...altho he did help build that school in Dominica or whatever). also where is Nadiacat?

also lolz at Kate climbing the tree to hide from the bomb

Sayid being a new immortal makes a lot of sense to me, given that he has nothing to go back home to in the original timeline.

My guess is Sayid is alive and well (for whatever reason) but the dudes in the temple are going to go bananas and not know why and think he's Smokey.

There were so many times over the last 2 seasons that I was sure Sayid was going to be killed off, and now he appears to be integral in some way to the advancement of the show its final season. Good work, writers.

I don't think Sayid has ever been 'important' in the grand scheme of things but they know how popular the character is and how useful he can be in terms of having a guy like that in play and would never really take him out the action

Was it established that Richard Alpert was a regular human at some point? The "glad to see you out of chains" thing sounds like he was a fugitive on their alien ship. (so he's the alien version of Kate?)

MIB -- can't remember, was it established that his name is Esau, or am I hallucinating that?

We just called him that (other internet places did too) because he's Jacob's evil "brother."

re chains i think richard was just a skate punk before his hippy phase

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Essau's (or whatever his name) not being able to touch Jacob doesn't seem to hold water. He could heave a rock at him! It's probably some weird alien restraining order. "Loophole" implies some legalese to squirm around.

can't remember who broke the ash circle around the cabin but didn't this allow Jacob to escape from it (to protect himself from Esau, he formed the circle) and then Esau to use it instead (as implied by Ilana)? it seems like Smokey can manipulate objects but the ash circles can only be broken by humans (whether accidentally or not).

it's never been clear who broke that circle iirc?

enjoyed this but really have no fkn clue what's gwan on now. sort of preferred the non-island stuff because it's relatively uncomplicated. but at this point i've forgotten who all those people with richard were, when smoke-locke happened, etc. terrible, i know.

love the new Other leader "i despise the taste of your language on my tongue"

they must all be thinking 'can't believe we have to work with this dick'

btw i'm really hoping ian mcshane shows up somehow this season, seeing how they've used every other deadwood actor. he'd make a good slave owner in a richard alpert flashback

Was it established that Richard Alpert was a regular human at some point? The "glad to see you out of chains" thing sounds like he was a fugitive on their alien ship.

Sounded to me like, "I remember when you showed up on that slave ship called the Black Rock."

new other leader is gonna turn out to be one of those Hansos right?

guys: should i bother watching seasons 2.5-5 to catch up or what? i'm watching the premiere right now and it makes zero sense

I explained it the other day to someone else who stopped watching in the second season like this: In season 2, Lost was still just a cuddly little baby of a show. Now it's a grown adult will all manner of neuroses and ailments that needs constant attention.

you're not helping

like basically should i just read wiki and catch up, or are the other seasons worth it

like what is all this talk of 1977???

I ended up watching the very first and last episodes of battlestar galactica and nothing else, and if the finale is anything like battlestar galactica, you might be content not having to watch anything in between. (i.e. the finale might very well ruin every other episode)

are the other seasons worth it

3 is essentially worthless, but the leadup to the finale and the finale itself were great.
4 and 5 were a lot of fun, but definitely the point where the show fully embraced crazy.
s2 is wonderful.

i personally think seasons 4 and 5 are totally worth watching and probably wouldn't translate well to playing catchup with recaps or whatever...the places they take the story can be pretty ridiculous on paper but i think are more often than not told pretty entertainingly.

lol that might help. i'm considering starting buying the box sets since they're pretty cheap now, it's all time skipping anyways

For all the complaining about season 3, I miss the pace of people just hangin' out on the island, having little adventures.

If you're looking to catch up hastily, you can treat the little adventures episodes like extras, though. Basically what you want to make sure you see in S3 are the Desmond-centric episodes and then the final three.

Darlton have stated that the underwater shots give us evidence that New Otherton was in existence when the island sank--so post-purge, not 1977.

oh i didn't think of that but you're right

But The Barracks (aka New Otherton) were built sometime in the early 1970's, so that doesn't make sense.

Yeah, New Otherton was originally Dharmatown.

S3 had some awful awful stuff at the start, but after about halfway it got its bearings back. I'm a hopeless fan though, so I guess I gotta say - do it all gbx! I don't really see the point of jumping on this point without having seen the last two seasons.

Got no problem with the little adventure episodes myself, but a lot of those depended on the strength of the melodrama in the flashback, which it seems a lot of people seem to dislike as it takes away from the island plots, but it's always been a backbone of the show.

hurley flashbacks were always pretty solid.

hey i'm watching this kimmel interview with the creator guys -- smokey and esau are not the same dude?

so i just read the synopsis of season three....was that the one with the gap in it? i think that's where i fell off. anyway, the synopsis was breathless and barely sensical, but i think if i jump in with 4 i'll be all set

id watch 3 as well, i dont hate it as much as other peeps seem to. plus introduces juliet and her story which is kind of important