The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

boring is awful, i hear you, i'll usually stick it out w/a boring film if it's been appreciated by others & might be worth discussing. they don't mean to be boring, do they? as for some of the mean ones.. i feel like it's a valid response to just walk out/turn the film off, in fact, it might be the best response. such as gaspar noe.

didn't know anything about All The Real Girls, but jaymc's blurb (and the fact that it showed up on this list) makes me want to check it out

just noticing how tight these are points wise. Minority Report and ATRG were on my ballot, though neither were very high up.

i think lvt is pretty uneven (dancer in the dark kind of annoyed me, except for the musical bits) and is undoubtedly full of shit in general and way too in love with his provocateur shtick. but a.) he is also kind of virtuosic, his movies are really inventive visually and technically and i think he's fun to watch on that level, and b.) dogville is just one where i think he pulled it all together, the form suits the content, the tone is right, it's all the most coherent version of his whole coldblooded-humanist thing.

dogville still the only thing on my ballot that's shown. which means the other 39 must all be still to come! (can't wait to see how high princess raccoon places.)

who knows, maybe dogville will redeem lvt for me

cache did for haneke

it will get less tight toward into the top 50. zipf's law.

all the real girls is dull as fuck and badly made.

yeah - only a 20 point difference btw 100 and 86. whats interesting is that most of the films that have placed so far seem to be the result of a bunch of ppl liking them tropical malady (one of the few films w/ a #1 vote so far) had the highest points per vote and that only averages to around a #14 ranking

so yah i think we may see a huge point difference btw the top ten or so and the rest

There's not enough in All the Real Girls and yet there are too many "meaningful" moments.

it does look rabishing though.

there were about sixty films which had a shot at entering the top 100 towards the end there, all it would have taken was a couple of high ballot placements.

I felt pretty close to what Jamyc wrote when I first saw All the Real Girls. Flawed, but full of subjective love because it really hit the right notes with me. I saw it again last year and it doesn't hold up as well. There's lots of awkwardness in his directing and there were a few too many of those 'meaningful' precious moments (that still of the bowling alley being a prime example). But it was still beautifully shot, still oddly moving at times, its heart is in the right place, and the central relationships still works really well.

I rewatched Minority Report a few months back, and it was still pretty thrilling. It looked great and it was a lot of fun. The only thing that was really wrong with the ending was the deus ex-wife, but it was one of the better thrillers I saw.

Yeah, I expect I would not love ATRG as much at 31 as I did at 24, though I will still defend aspects of it, esp. that motel-room scene.

ATRG seems like one of those movies I'd be emotionally affected by, then get angry at because of that, and so I avoid them completely.

i saw minority report in the theater when it came out, and it was a trip, colin farrell was great in it.. i have no recollection of what went on in the movie so i didn't think to vote for it. these days, i really appreciate the craft that goes into making a good thriller, but i didn't pay attention at the time & just saw it as entertaining.

i prefer to look at and listen to Tom Cruise as little as possible - this played a major role in me disliking Minority Report.

mean-spirited in what way?

it's about ugly people

― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 7:09 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i come back from a nice middle class meal out to see this? would ND be better spirited if it were about pretty and nice people?

on second thoughts don't answer, sure your zings are ready

i found the central story of all the real girls sort of dull, iirc (it's a little hazy). but i really liked the sense of place, the town, the general feel for the lives of those characters -- also things i liked about george washington, which i think is a better movie so i voted for it instead of atrg.

i liked ALRG even moreso when i rescreened it recently. it's not something id vigorously defend cuz it does feel v. subjective and it find the cutesy/emo-ness more grating than endearing than im ok w/ that~

all the side friends are objectively great imo tho...<3 <3 <3 mcbride as bustass & tip, they make for some fantastic scenes

dang should be "if u" find

catching up on some of the earlier virulence it will be interesting to see what ppls lists are once the dust has settled....

or why don't you have an invites only poll?

Minority Report is the only one from my ballot to appear so far. #29 on my ballot, but if it had ended with the scene where the Cruiser is incarcerated in carbon freezing or whatever the hell that was, it would've been higher.
It's a bit messy, looking back on it, though it has a stack of really memorable shots (small things too, but clever, like the umbrellas, and the balloons). A lot of product placement too. A LOT.

I actually watched Minority Report for the product placement.

by poster request:

dear assholes of internet, try to keep it positive and make me want to see things, love, louis

too bad, chew on our hate

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^like this scene w/ tip drinking 24 oz old styles, callin himself a pussy, and paul ttly taking the piss outta his seriousness is fab

bah

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The Lives of Others seemed roughly as dishonest about its political epoch as Mississippi Burning was about its.

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 9:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

do you mean the political epochs in which the films were made? roughly?

lives of others was awarded Most R-U-Kidding Movie of the Decade by me because it was one of these things that like 10 friends all raved about to me -- like really, really loved it -- and i thought it was really some bullshit.

what was bullshit about it?

the east germans don't you know

i'm with you sarahel on the conversation connection fwiw

Is LJ banned again?

At his own request (again), jaymc.

lives of others was pretty stupid but s1ocki otm, it did look rabishing

if yr into that ostalgia thing i mean

weird to see my old login qtd about Lives of Others, of all things. i liked the movie, i enjoyed watching it, insofar as i enjoyed the mechanics of the plot it constructed: who knows what about whom, and when, and why people act on incorrect information, that the audience knows is false -- all that romeo and juliet shit at the end. but yeah it's deeply deeply dishonest about how its subjects lives would really have been. turns out totalitarianism isn't that dramatic, insert arendt quote here.

i really didn't like All The Real Girls. i watched it with a date and she was all "what decade is this is supposed be in" and that kind of popped the bubble on the whole thing. DGG's "lyricism of ruined quotidian life" doesn't have enough juggalo in it, if u get me. plus zoey desch is garbage. a literal piece of garbage walking around. she's horrible.

under-sung movie I think of along with ATRG - The Good Girl. I didn't think to vote for it, but it has everything good about Green's movies without the film-school project qualities.

would definitely watch a david gordon green juggalo movie.

One of Jake G's better performances too.

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needs more juggalo in it

lives of others was awarded Most R-U-Kidding Movie of the Decade by me because it was one of these things that like 10 friends all raved about to me -- like really, really loved it -- and i thought it was really some bullshit.

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:27 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what was bullshit about it?

the soul of Stasi agents getting warmed by the magic power of Rilke poems.

but I'm sure it's been amply discussed upthread.

alfred otm.

(and i liked the good girl too, tho the end goes sort of off the rails. john c. reilly is great in that.)

plus zoey desch is garbage. a literal piece of garbage walking around. she's horrible.

― goole, Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:39 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

the hell man?

saw 10min of 'the good girl': awful.

do her fucking bicycling-around-the-shops cotton industry ads w/ self-penned song air in the UK? she is horrible. this is probly lex-ish but i don't care. terrible person, thoroughly.

86. All the Real Juggalos
87. Minority Juggalo
88. Juggalos of Murder
89. The Lives of Juggalos
90. Juggalos Together
91. Talk to Juggalos
92. Juggalo Malady
93. Sideways (it's about Juggalos, trust me)
94. Napoleon Juggalo
95. Capturing the Juggalos
96. Juggalo Fidelity
97. Happy-Go-Juggalo
98. Juggaloville
99. The Juggalo Teacher
100. Movern Juggalo

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