Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

It's weird that the Dharma van travelled with everybody, too.

Someone must have been touvhing the van.. The same reason clothes can timetravel

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Finefinemusic might be right that there isn't an alternative universe thing going on but rather another reset happens later this season. Anything is possible.

That reminds me. Tonight's episode of Fringe is supposed to have universes colliding. I really like that show a lot.

Oh yeah, one more thing. This thread has given me some hope since when I posted yesterday that Black Tunic Guy/Fake Locke may still have a chance at being the good guy. He might be the key to resetting everything and sinking the island (if there isn't alt universes). He found a loophole but killing Jacob isn't the only thing he has to do...

BTW, I was thinking Miles was sort of like "who would want to talk to the dead (my gift is a pain in the ass)" when Hurley said "visit me anytime".

lots of jabber about the dharma shark in the underwater shot implying that the island sank later than 1977 btw

brb, starting a band called Dharma Shark

will be shocked if there is not already a band named dharma shark

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Dharma+Shark%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

there isn't one that Google knows about, at least not on the 1st page

Someone must have been touvhing the van.. The same reason clothes can timetravel

Oh right, I'd forgotten about the rope Sawyer was holding when Locke went down the well to turn the wheel.

it would be kind of awesome if only men's clothes could time-travel

quick dan snail mail yourself a copy of this thread and dont open the envelope and you will have eternal rights to the Dharma Shark empire

speaking of Fringe, I was thinking how it's weird the special effects in Fringe are so good while the effects in Lost are so cheesy. I guess maybe they aren't using much CGI in Fringe, maybe more old-school effects instead?

i think Lost blows their budget on huge cast/Hawaii/etc.

Yeah, I think Fox nets like $250K an ep.

Ok, $22525.

Dammit. Anyways ...

Fringe either won something or was nominated for it's special effects

oh like an award for television shows? interesting

lots of jabber about the dharma shark in the underwater shot implying that the island sank later than 1977 btw
--rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten)

IMO to continue my idea from upthread perhaps the bomb Juliet hit didn't go off but all the losties experienced a time jump- sending them to 2007 to fight for Jacob. The ultimate end of this war is that the island sinks.. hence the Dharma shark. I think the 2004 flight is a post-war flashforward, not that I know how exactly they'll end up back in Sydney.. but I do think linearly, the flight is the last thing to happen in one timeline.

Is it Tuesday yet? :(

Pretty sure the Dharma zoology program was already running in 1977, so don't see why the dharma shark means that the island didn't blow up in 1977, but that would be one very old shark in that case. I just assumed it was an easter egg.

I think the 2004 flight is a post-war flashforward, not that I know how exactly they'll end up back in Sydney.. but I do think linearly, the flight is the last thing to happen in one timeline.

That's how I see it too. Guess that makes the alt scenes flashbackforwardsideways?

I think you guys might be overthinking it... well, I don't think the Dharma shark thing is meant to reveal anything. Hitting the bomb worked, creating an alternate timeline with a sunken island, but it didn't destroy the existing one (where the Hatch was built, 815 crashed, etc) so the crew returned to the 2007 of that timeline. Hopefully Sun and Jin meet sooner than later! They're inevitably gonna merge the two universes somehow. (I bet they all have to choose which universe they want to save.) For now, I'm really enjoying the ride that we're getting with alt-2004... 2004-X.

yeah it was nice to see the old, sweet hapless John Locke back on the plane

If it turns out Palin won in alt timeline, blow that timeline up, too.

I think we've got the alt history covered here

it was really sweet seeing terry oquinn reprise his role as early-Lost locke.

cuse/lindelof interviews are always so boring because they can't tell us anything we don't already know.

season 6 = the it's a wonderful life season

Quite enjoyed this though I thought they wasted too much time padding out stuff everyone knew already, and had to bludgeon a few bits, "OH JUST IN CASE YOU ARE DUMB FAKE LOCKE IS THE SMOKE MONSTER, OKAY??? LETS HAVE HIM SAY SOMETHING THAT TELLS US THIS AGAIN."

Yeah, that was nice. MIB can't touch Jacob, so Jacob's ashes become the circles of ash that stop MIB

This doesn't make any sense, didn't the temple people say something about spreading ashes when they shot the flare etc? So clearly it's not Jacob's ashes as they had only just found out he was dead. Plus the cabin was surrounded by ashes and Jacob was alive at that point. It's obviously ashes of another kind or just any old ash.

WTF is up with Kate btw, literally 2 mins after Sayid has died and she is washing Sawyer's face with a big fucking beaming smile. Do they even realise what a vile human being they have written?

The alternate timeline thing is sort of weird...definitely think they're stressing the differences in people's lives, eg Hurley being lucky etc, Shannon not being on the flight. I think behind this the implication is that the bomb plan was for the best. Directly after Sawyer goes mental and is threatening to kill Jack (after one of the times he does this) it cuts back to the flight and the air hostess saying to Jack "some people just don't know how to say thanks."

Was there any significance in Smokey/Locke cutting off a piece of the rug or tapestry thing in the room where Jacon died? I just thought the size and shape of the piece he cut off to wipe the knife on was almost exactly the same as the piece of rug the shadow of the statue dudes found in the cabin...

wondering if Sayid is now like Richard and will live without ageing. but presumably he went thru a totally different process to young Ben. maybe Sayid has now "gained" innocence (ha, undeservedly if so...altho he did help build that school in Dominica or whatever). also where is Nadiacat?

also lolz at Kate climbing the tree to hide from the bomb

Sayid being a new immortal makes a lot of sense to me, given that he has nothing to go back home to in the original timeline.

My guess is Sayid is alive and well (for whatever reason) but the dudes in the temple are going to go bananas and not know why and think he's Smokey.

There were so many times over the last 2 seasons that I was sure Sayid was going to be killed off, and now he appears to be integral in some way to the advancement of the show its final season. Good work, writers.

I don't think Sayid has ever been 'important' in the grand scheme of things but they know how popular the character is and how useful he can be in terms of having a guy like that in play and would never really take him out the action

Was it established that Richard Alpert was a regular human at some point? The "glad to see you out of chains" thing sounds like he was a fugitive on their alien ship. (so he's the alien version of Kate?)

MIB -- can't remember, was it established that his name is Esau, or am I hallucinating that?

We just called him that (other internet places did too) because he's Jacob's evil "brother."

re chains i think richard was just a skate punk before his hippy phase

ah ok
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Essau's (or whatever his name) not being able to touch Jacob doesn't seem to hold water. He could heave a rock at him! It's probably some weird alien restraining order. "Loophole" implies some legalese to squirm around.

can't remember who broke the ash circle around the cabin but didn't this allow Jacob to escape from it (to protect himself from Esau, he formed the circle) and then Esau to use it instead (as implied by Ilana)? it seems like Smokey can manipulate objects but the ash circles can only be broken by humans (whether accidentally or not).

it's never been clear who broke that circle iirc?

enjoyed this but really have no fkn clue what's gwan on now. sort of preferred the non-island stuff because it's relatively uncomplicated. but at this point i've forgotten who all those people with richard were, when smoke-locke happened, etc. terrible, i know.

love the new Other leader "i despise the taste of your language on my tongue"

they must all be thinking 'can't believe we have to work with this dick'

btw i'm really hoping ian mcshane shows up somehow this season, seeing how they've used every other deadwood actor. he'd make a good slave owner in a richard alpert flashback

Was it established that Richard Alpert was a regular human at some point? The "glad to see you out of chains" thing sounds like he was a fugitive on their alien ship.

Sounded to me like, "I remember when you showed up on that slave ship called the Black Rock."

new other leader is gonna turn out to be one of those Hansos right?

guys: should i bother watching seasons 2.5-5 to catch up or what? i'm watching the premiere right now and it makes zero sense

I explained it the other day to someone else who stopped watching in the second season like this: In season 2, Lost was still just a cuddly little baby of a show. Now it's a grown adult will all manner of neuroses and ailments that needs constant attention.