Yeah, everything on the island was same time frame. Ben definitely killed Jacob in 2007, and then Jacob appears to Hurley and says "I died 10 minutes ago."
― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:15 (sixteen years ago)
The parallel timeline aspect of the show this season is going to keep me awake at night, but I welcome the challenge.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:17 (sixteen years ago)
hi maria last night i got a gif animator to make a bram/smokey gifin the meantime here is juliet falling down the hole as requested you sadisthttp://i50.tinypic.com/16lbk3s.gif
― jergins, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:22 (sixteen years ago)
good because they only showed that THREE TIMES last night (between recap episode, recap at beginning of new episode, then within new episode)
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:25 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, I get that they're in 2007, I think this season will be about accomplishing something that propels them back to 2004 as if the island never existed.
Xp interesting about the Paik/ring observations!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:25 (sixteen years ago)
bloody kissing is the worst
― jergins, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:25 (sixteen years ago)
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 3:25 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
im sort of hoping they open every show with it
― max, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:31 (sixteen years ago)
haha replaces the LOST title card
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:37 (sixteen years ago)
so i think we're supposed to get that their lives were connected to the island long before oceanic 815 right?
kind of hoping still-crippled alt.locke is somehow going to save everyone from evil.bad.fake.locke.
― did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:59 (sixteen years ago)
yeah but that's nothing new? their lives being connected.
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:04 (sixteen years ago)
was she flashing forward to when she meets Sawyer in un-crash time?
Yeah, that and her posthumous 'it worked' were indications that she was briefly aware of the fact that an alternate timeline had been created.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:18 (sixteen years ago)
but didn't Miles establish when explaining his power to Hurley that he just has access to a dead person's final living thoughts, not actual communications from beyond?
― rhea perlman posts as "harbl" (some dude), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:19 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, but her conversation with Sawyer showed that she had awareness of it while living, hence Miles was able to pick it up, being some of her last thoughts. (Reminds me of MIB's last-thoughts-of-Locke monologue)
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:21 (sixteen years ago)
Apropos of nothing these posters are really nice!
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:22 (sixteen years ago)
oh ok...i think i was distracted or something during her death scene so i didn't really catch that
― rhea perlman posts as "harbl" (some dude), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:24 (sixteen years ago)
There were a bunch of little exchanges I had to replay. The fact that the post-implosion Swan set looks so different now totally threw me, too, so I didn't realize everybody was in 2007 for a while.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:25 (sixteen years ago)
It's weird that the Dharma van travelled with everybody, too.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:26 (sixteen years ago)
Someone must have been touvhing the van.. The same reason clothes can timetravel
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Finefinemusic might be right that there isn't an alternative universe thing going on but rather another reset happens later this season. Anything is possible.
That reminds me. Tonight's episode of Fringe is supposed to have universes colliding. I really like that show a lot.
Oh yeah, one more thing. This thread has given me some hope since when I posted yesterday that Black Tunic Guy/Fake Locke may still have a chance at being the good guy. He might be the key to resetting everything and sinking the island (if there isn't alt universes). He found a loophole but killing Jacob isn't the only thing he has to do...
BTW, I was thinking Miles was sort of like "who would want to talk to the dead (my gift is a pain in the ass)" when Hurley said "visit me anytime".
― stop assuming I assumed something LOL (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:28 (sixteen years ago)
lots of jabber about the dharma shark in the underwater shot implying that the island sank later than 1977 btw
― rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:30 (sixteen years ago)
brb, starting a band called Dharma Shark
― PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:30 (sixteen years ago)
will be shocked if there is not already a band named dharma shark
― rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:31 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Dharma+Shark%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
there isn't one that Google knows about, at least not on the 1st page
― PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:33 (sixteen years ago)
Oh right, I'd forgotten about the rope Sawyer was holding when Locke went down the well to turn the wheel.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:34 (sixteen years ago)
it would be kind of awesome if only men's clothes could time-travel
― PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:35 (sixteen years ago)
quick dan snail mail yourself a copy of this thread and dont open the envelope and you will have eternal rights to the Dharma Shark empire
― rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:36 (sixteen years ago)
speaking of Fringe, I was thinking how it's weird the special effects in Fringe are so good while the effects in Lost are so cheesy. I guess maybe they aren't using much CGI in Fringe, maybe more old-school effects instead?
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:37 (sixteen years ago)
i think Lost blows their budget on huge cast/Hawaii/etc.
― rhea perlman posts as "harbl" (some dude), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:39 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, I think Fox nets like $250K an ep.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:41 (sixteen years ago)
Ok, $22525.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:45 (sixteen years ago)
Dammit. Anyways ...
Fringe either won something or was nominated for it's special effects
― stop assuming I assumed something LOL (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:51 (sixteen years ago)
oh like an award for television shows? interesting
― rhea perlman posts as "harbl" (some dude), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:53 (sixteen years ago)
lots of jabber about the dharma shark in the underwater shot implying that the island sank later than 1977 btw --rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten)
IMO to continue my idea from upthread perhaps the bomb Juliet hit didn't go off but all the losties experienced a time jump- sending them to 2007 to fight for Jacob. The ultimate end of this war is that the island sinks.. hence the Dharma shark. I think the 2004 flight is a post-war flashforward, not that I know how exactly they'll end up back in Sydney.. but I do think linearly, the flight is the last thing to happen in one timeline.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:38 (sixteen years ago)
Is it Tuesday yet? :(
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:40 (sixteen years ago)
Pretty sure the Dharma zoology program was already running in 1977, so don't see why the dharma shark means that the island didn't blow up in 1977, but that would be one very old shark in that case. I just assumed it was an easter egg.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)
I think the 2004 flight is a post-war flashforward, not that I know how exactly they'll end up back in Sydney.. but I do think linearly, the flight is the last thing to happen in one timeline.
That's how I see it too. Guess that makes the alt scenes flashbackforwardsideways?
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:46 (sixteen years ago)
I think you guys might be overthinking it... well, I don't think the Dharma shark thing is meant to reveal anything. Hitting the bomb worked, creating an alternate timeline with a sunken island, but it didn't destroy the existing one (where the Hatch was built, 815 crashed, etc) so the crew returned to the 2007 of that timeline. Hopefully Sun and Jin meet sooner than later! They're inevitably gonna merge the two universes somehow. (I bet they all have to choose which universe they want to save.) For now, I'm really enjoying the ride that we're getting with alt-2004... 2004-X.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:50 (sixteen years ago)
yeah it was nice to see the old, sweet hapless John Locke back on the plane
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:53 (sixteen years ago)
If it turns out Palin won in alt timeline, blow that timeline up, too.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:55 (sixteen years ago)
I think we've got the alt history covered here
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:08 (sixteen years ago)
it was really sweet seeing terry oquinn reprise his role as early-Lost locke.
― phantompenguin, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:13 (sixteen years ago)
cuse/lindelof interviews are always so boring because they can't tell us anything we don't already know.
― phantompenguin, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:17 (sixteen years ago)
season 6 = the it's a wonderful life season
― did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 23:52 (sixteen years ago)
Quite enjoyed this though I thought they wasted too much time padding out stuff everyone knew already, and had to bludgeon a few bits, "OH JUST IN CASE YOU ARE DUMB FAKE LOCKE IS THE SMOKE MONSTER, OKAY??? LETS HAVE HIM SAY SOMETHING THAT TELLS US THIS AGAIN."
Yeah, that was nice. MIB can't touch Jacob, so Jacob's ashes become the circles of ash that stop MIB
This doesn't make any sense, didn't the temple people say something about spreading ashes when they shot the flare etc? So clearly it's not Jacob's ashes as they had only just found out he was dead. Plus the cabin was surrounded by ashes and Jacob was alive at that point. It's obviously ashes of another kind or just any old ash.
WTF is up with Kate btw, literally 2 mins after Sayid has died and she is washing Sawyer's face with a big fucking beaming smile. Do they even realise what a vile human being they have written?
The alternate timeline thing is sort of weird...definitely think they're stressing the differences in people's lives, eg Hurley being lucky etc, Shannon not being on the flight. I think behind this the implication is that the bomb plan was for the best. Directly after Sawyer goes mental and is threatening to kill Jack (after one of the times he does this) it cuts back to the flight and the air hostess saying to Jack "some people just don't know how to say thanks."
Was there any significance in Smokey/Locke cutting off a piece of the rug or tapestry thing in the room where Jacon died? I just thought the size and shape of the piece he cut off to wipe the knife on was almost exactly the same as the piece of rug the shadow of the statue dudes found in the cabin...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:13 (sixteen years ago)
wondering if Sayid is now like Richard and will live without ageing. but presumably he went thru a totally different process to young Ben. maybe Sayid has now "gained" innocence (ha, undeservedly if so...altho he did help build that school in Dominica or whatever). also where is Nadiacat?
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:24 (sixteen years ago)
also lolz at Kate climbing the tree to hide from the bomb
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:26 (sixteen years ago)
Sayid being a new immortal makes a lot of sense to me, given that he has nothing to go back home to in the original timeline.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:30 (sixteen years ago)
My guess is Sayid is alive and well (for whatever reason) but the dudes in the temple are going to go bananas and not know why and think he's Smokey.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:32 (sixteen years ago)
There were so many times over the last 2 seasons that I was sure Sayid was going to be killed off, and now he appears to be integral in some way to the advancement of the show its final season. Good work, writers.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:32 (sixteen years ago)
I don't think Sayid has ever been 'important' in the grand scheme of things but they know how popular the character is and how useful he can be in terms of having a guy like that in play and would never really take him out the action
― rhea perlman posts as "harbl" (some dude), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:37 (sixteen years ago)