The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

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don't see apichatpong making the top 100

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

capturing the friedmans, major bummer

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

don't see apichatpong

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

srsly the lowest polled got 204 points brah

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

two of his film will make the top 100 but won't place highly.

jed_, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:56 (sixteen years ago)

i'm guessing

jed_, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:56 (sixteen years ago)

tuomas i know we already had this discussion and it is reprinted upthread but i really didnt see the film as an endorsement of poppys worldview - it wasnt any sort of manifesto - it was however a story w/some v well rendered characters

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:50 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tuomas sees every movie as either for or against something or another

brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:56 (sixteen years ago)

guys i see apichatpong as getting all three top spots

brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/napoleon-dynamite-8-1.jpg

I checked it out last night with some friends and thought it was pretty great. I was a little confused about how to take it since despite it being hilarious, the characters are pretty one dimensional and basically wear the same expressions on their faces for the entire movie. You can also tell the movie was made by a bunch of kids from byu because there was no swearing, no sex humor, no raunch.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins)

No wonder Fox Pictures snapped this Sundance crowd-pleaser up!

'Napoleon Dynamite' is a hysterical comedy about and awkward teen growing up in Idaho. With a chatroom-addicted older brother, a dune buggying grandmother, an uncle trying to recapture his past, a Mexico-born new (and only) best friend Pedro, and a llama, first-time director/writer Jared Hess has created a gem!

Did I forget to mention a great 80s soundtrack featuring Alphaville and When In Rome? Don't miss this film if you enjoy offbeat, quirky comedies... And don't forget to Vote For Pedro.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry)

#94
Napoleon Dynamite
Jared Hess
2004
United States
(215.5 points, 10 votes)

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

Friedmans is one of many I mean to rescr**n someday. The compulsive self-documenting was amazing.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

nappy dynamite? fuk u ilx

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

don't see apichatpong

You meant this as a command, right ice?

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

haha that deangulberry quote.

awful, awful, awful film btw.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

given the best years of my life to this shitheap and it votes napoleon dynamite the xth best film of the aughts.

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

dean gulberry was so effusive in his praise of napoleon dynamite

max, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

Plz, let Miami Vice creep up into the top 20 to make up for some of these low-ranking choices.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

Fuck Napoleon Dynamite!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

tuomas i know we already had this discussion and it is reprinted upthread but i really didnt see the film as an endorsement of poppys worldview - it wasnt any sort of manifesto - it was however a story w/some v well rendered characters

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:50 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tuomas sees every movie as either for or against something or another

in this case he's right

jed_, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

don't see apichatpong

You meant this as a command, right ice?

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:58 PM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah yall better heed me

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

I tried watching Happy-Go-Lucky with two different friends on separate occasions. Both times we had to stop the movie after 20-30 minutes because they found the lead character so repellant. I still haven't seen the whole thing...must give it a chance

Dan S, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

xpost Where were you when I needed you last 2004?

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

It's hard to believe there are more wretched wastes of celluloid than ND to come

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

Both times we had to stop the movie after 20-30 minutes because they found the lead character so repellant.

What I like about HGL even more now after reading some of these reactions is how many people react to Poppy as though she actually just interacted with them in some form.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

a day late and a baht short once again xp

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

And I think even the viewers who might disagree with the message would agree that Sally Hawkins as Poppy is incredible in it, one of the performances of the decade.

I agree that Hawkins was the best perf in the movie. The movie maybe doesn't explicitly advocate her brand of optimism, but it at least portrays it in a favorable light. A great accomplishment of the movie is that her resolute chirpy cheerfulness is shown to be neither shallow, false nor air-headed. Over the course of the movie, as we see Hawkins' character deal with various difficult situations, we begin to see it increasingly as a wise and almost heroic choice.

o. nate, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

tuomas i know we already had this discussion and it is reprinted upthread but i really didnt see the film as an endorsement of poppys worldview - it wasnt any sort of manifesto - it was however a story w/some v well rendered characters

I think I said this in the OG thread, but I think the idea that it presents Poppy's lifestyle as perfectly valid way of existing in the world makes it some sort of "endorsement". In a more cynical movie someone so optimistic and naive would eventually be put down in a dramatic way for her foolishness, but the fact this never happens in Happy-Go-Lucky - even though you kinda expect it to happen with the driving instructor - certainly means the movie has a particular message. I don't think the message is "everybody should be this way, why can't the cynics see it?", rather than "this too a valid way of living, even if the cynics disagree".

Tuomas, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

(many x-posts)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:02 (sixteen years ago)

what about 15-15-15-15-15-15-10?

nice weeklong format, 5 days is too short, 10 days is too long?

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:02 (sixteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/sideways-4.jpg

I liked it a lot. Note that I was not a big fan of About Schmidt at all -- I felt like it never found the right tone, that its reliance on such farcical elements (the waterbed, Dermot Mulroney's hair, Kathy Bates's boobs) meant that when it came time to milk the pathos (OMG Jack is so lonely), it didn't feel like it was earned. But Sideways strikes just the right balance between funny and sad/poignant because Giamatti's character is always both at once: what shifts in tone there are never seem abrupt. And some nice subtle choices, indeed. Even when things aren't going smoothly for Giamatti w/r/t Virginia Madsen's character, you always see a connection between the two, something that draws them to each other, that complicates any impulse we may have to think, "har har, wotta loser."

― jaymc (jaymc)

he piled it on a little thick with that whole "wine is a metaphor for life" crap

― s1ocki (slutsky)

But you always tell me that wine is a metaphor for life!

― adam... (nordicskilla)

A movie about wine snobs where wine was talked about the entire time - and it wasn't annoying! That's a feat unto itself. The masterpiece talk is strong, but this was much better than last year's critical darling.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman)

Sideways
Alexander Payne
2004
United States
(216 points, 12 votes)

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:03 (sixteen years ago)

that's my plan, steve~

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

Oy.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

I question the sanity of anyone who made it all the way through Napoleon Dynamite. The twenty minutes I watched were some of the worst "cinema" (I use the term very, very loosely) I've ever seen.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

toumas while i find yr definition of cynicism hopelessly narrow i will concede that point, partially

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

But yeah, o.nate completely OTM about Poppy.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

thread title creeping closer and closer to reality

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

Oof. Ugh. Gack.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:05 (sixteen years ago)

I'll rep for Napoleon Dynamite, but it's the Animal Collective of movies, I'll admit.

dog latin, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:05 (sixteen years ago)

I now think of Poppy as the UK equiv of Americans believing in Obamachange despite being smart ppl.

At least Sideways isn't as hateful as About Schmidt. Liked the comedy, knockout woman falling for socially impaired shlub not so much.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

My ballot was filled with mainstream stuff, but Sideways and Napoleon Dynamite were nowhere near it. *vomit*

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

nd is hilar, i didnt come close to voting for it but it brings the lolz i will admit

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

I see Napolean Dynamite as a kind of cinematic equivalent of the abject art of Mike Kelley, et. al.

Dan S, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

god plz don't let this thing get glutted with middlebrow slice-of-life

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

I'd like to know why people hate Napoleon Dynamite so much. Maybe you all had wonderful adolescences or something?

dog latin, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

Although, Paul Giamatti is good to watch in almost anything. xxxxxp

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

Capturing the Friedmans = best film so far. Does anyone WATCH Napoleon Dynamite anymore?

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

rescreen

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

^ just checking, thought this might be a censored word on ILX

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

I see Napolean Dynamite as a kind of cinematic equivalent of the abject art of Mike Kelley, et. al.

I abject

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

Napoleon Dynamite is a really mean-spirited film dressed up as a bonkers comedy.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

sideways is hilar, i didnt come close to voting for it but it brings the lolz i will admit

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 19:08 (sixteen years ago)


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