Matrix Revolutions

Ha ha, good point Ned. I think even the major detractors from the nu-Matrices will acknowledge that they're trying to do *something*, either with the CG or large-form story or expanding this tenaciously balanced conceit that worked well for one film into five more hours. Even the biggest Star Wars fans have trouble figuring out what the nu-Star Wars films are trying to do beyond shift merchandise.

And I say that as someone who still has a primal reaction to Jedi fights!

so otm it isn't even funny!

bah. I call bullshit on this. This is lucas' attempt to dodge or deflect criticism over how his movies finally came out.

Tracer i have mailed you, am unlikely to get there before 7.15 anyway so see you there.

thanks for that link btw Teeny. i watched bits of Matrix Reloaded again last night and I am still wondering who is that guy who glances forlornly at Neo as he is marched past Merovingien's table in the restaurant as Neo and co approach?

I can't give you my number because I haven't got one.

In short, the movie is something of a bull session until Zion's defenders strap themselves into their galumphing robo-battle machines and begin to rock and roll with the invading mindless metallic insect horde. There's a hint of Burroughsian grandeur to this cyborg-against-cyborg ballet mécanique and, at this point too, my notes began to resemble an undergraduate Burroughs imitation: BX cable squid spaghetti static electricity! Machine-gun machine-hell Armageddon!! Infernal orange and blue orgone-light tentacle vortex!!!

J Hoberman, Village Voice

The J-Hoba is the best film critic alive innit. I want his two recent books. Hardly anywhere stocks em but they all have that poindexter Anthony Lane

I love my diction! < /sarcasm>

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Okay, I saw that other thread, and boy, I think it was doomed anyway.

"I'm going to say something about this movie that is my choice to say. Something that I've wanted to say and will say after I say this. Before I say it it is important to understand that I choose and know why I choose to say what I want to say. I believe I know why I choose to say what I am going to say but what matters is why you beleave that you understand why you choose. It is also important that you understand that I do not use the word 'choose,' only the meaning behind the word...the word that does not mean anything to me--except fot the meaning associated with the word. So now I'm going to say it.... Take the above said add in some kick'n FX and two hands full of corn. Mix it all together and bake it with some hype and you'll have enough Matrix Revolutions for 8 - 10 soft headed guests."

Not as terrible as I thought. Bad enough for me to be laughing all the way through.

Oracle: You really are a bastard
Smith: You'd know Mom

Neo: You're gonna have to drive

The majority of the reviews disgust me. This is a hugely entertaining movie as were the last two. As many great lines as bad ones, far more great ideas than bad ones. Strange stilted slow moving first half balanced bravely by exhilirating second half. Best fantasy war scene in cinematic history. Playfully and RIGHTFULLY referencing countless anime and sci-fi of the past. Neo/Smith battle was a bit too drawn out for me but the ending just about saved it. Neo's battle with Bain was far better tho. The new Oracle was better than I expected her to be though not quite matching the previous one. Merovingien and Persephone were under-used/under-exploited perhaps. We find out very quickly who that guy in the restaurant was (aha). Morpheus did bugger all but that's a good thing. The Kid was kinda cute. The Captain's sentinel-slashed face was NOT cute (fucking ew). The CGI for the machines and the APU battle scenes was superb. The dialogue was adequate and true to form. Keanu wasn't THAT bad. Robot insects are the best thing ever. Hugo Weaving is super as ever (you'll say his duplication was pointless because only one of him fought Neo - well, he's a nihilist, get over it). Interesting notions raised (why is it the machines seem to value and honour concepts such as 'trust' and 'trade' more/better than humans? as both the Machine Godhead and The Architect demonstrate)...several annoyances I really can't be bothered raising because I'm too busy thinking about and enjoying all the good stuff (maybe some critics should try that some time).

Neither better or worse than the other two for me. I like them all. A lot.

But I don't think even Imax can save Revolutions... I came away not hating it, but bemused. I kept finding myself rolling my eyes at the hokey dialogue. And the leader in machine city made me giggle - he looked like one of those toys made out of pins that you press onto your face.

They should have left it at the first one...

he looked like one of those toys made out of pins that you press onto your face.

this is a good thing