2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

lol @ comments

they shd lock the comments, that's perfect

what bothers me most about that quote is the grammar

we have not persue

lol pursue

We would absolutely not use these sorts of tactics. Senator Obama is focused on winning contests and earning the support of pledged delegates.

-- Obama spokesperson Tommy Vietor

i'm delighted they've all decided to play by queensbury rules i must say

Hello pigfucking!

so both dem candidates have met with edwards, and while i know edwards is probably waiting to hitch his wagon to the candidate who will eventually win the nomination, isn't his endorsement becoming increasingly irrelevant with each passing contest? besides a news cycle victory, what does edwards' endorsement really bring?

It's irrelevant now.

Yeah, I think Edwards could've scored a bunch of points by endorsing before 2/5, but at this point it's not really any more relevant to the process than an endorsement from any other senator or ex-senator.

guys he has delegates

he is a superdelegate, and he does have delegates, but i don't think he can gift them to either of the other candidates -- he can try to persuade them to go for one candidate or the other but ultimately they decide on their own, y/n?

y he "releases" the delegates

im sure whoever he endorses would swing a few of his delegates their way but yah prob not that big a deal at this point

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/021908DailyUpdateGraph1.gif

giddyup gallup still volatile, obama leads with 1% margin

lookit the one last edwards blip awwww

How'd it go from 7% to 1% in two days? Surely it's not that bullshit plagiarism thing, is it?

yea i'm not sure what it is. in any case clinton's really been laying it on him recently. there's been so many headline of "hillary turns up heat" "hillary attacks obama" etc. that it might have had an effect

*headlines

or it could just be a one day outlier blimp sort of messed poll thingy

yesterday was a holiday - weekends and holidays notoriously less reliable polling

This thread has got Gallup het up.

the tracking poll takes 3 days of polling into its daily numbers to minimize volatility, i think, so that dip is pretty remarkable. hard to say!

sat sun mon

dude i went to high school with forwarded me this on myspace, wtf:

Ok... now I've focused a lot on Hillary Clinton and John McCain and how I think we are big trouble if either of them get elected. But I really haven't devoted much time to Obama. And for the sake of being fair... I think I should.
Really though... all I need to do is post this and refer you to the myspace page for it to all be summed up. Just in case you haven't been following my work to closely though... I will try to spell it out.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/rebekahmfarmer/Obama.jpg

Ok... what I have a problem with here is that A) the American flag is hung equal with the other flags... which it's supposed to be higher. B) It's next to Che who represents EVERYTHING the United States isn't. C)It's in an Obama for President office... which E)Is the same guy who won't wear the American flag pin or put his hand over his heard during the National Anthem.

And as most of you know... Obama belongs to the Trinity Church of Christ which sounds remarkably racist. Everything for the betterment of the black people and black this and black that. Is this where we are at people? Is this who you want? I don't even want to begin to examine the Islamic history of himself and his family. But it does get better!

Because it's interesting to know Obama also doesn't mind theft:

(some youtube vid that i'm not going to watch)

And you know what? He's going to get away with all of it because of the weak minded and weak willed afraid to offend or afraid to stand up.

You want to know what is really getting me right now? Here we are... 2008... and we are trying to select a President between a radical feminist hell bent on power, a thieving racist who has ZERO track record, and some old guy who claims to be Regan conservative just a few years after considering going to the liberal side and trying to ramrod an amnesty bill down the American peoples throat when over 80% didn't want it. And all of them… wanting open borders… all of them with some type of affiliation to the CFR… and all of them detached with the REAL American people.

I mean think about this for second. What do any of them have in common with you? Honestly? What do you think they are really going to do? Do you think they are going to stop the SPP? Do you honestly think they are going to secure the borders? Do you honestly think that was is going to be avoided? Do you honestly think that the troops are going to come back even when all three of them have admitted that under their plans… it would be impossible? Do you think that they are going to lower your taxes when all three of them are talking about raising them?

Don't even go there. One of my local blogs has been fretting itself into hernias trying to get media to attack Obama for the Che flag.

wau

SPP?

Just so everyone's clear, that picture was taken BEFORE that office became an Obama campaign office.

so I guess Wisconsin allows for same-day voter registration and is an open primary -- the name of the game is GOTV, i guess.

OMG! That's not Che. That's Willie Horton in a beret!

whoever put that flag up was a goddamn idiot though, jesus keep yr eye on the ball

</gym coach>

gym coach OTM

right? god my generation is so stupid sometimes

somewhere in a dorm room is excitable red-eyed chatter comparing the relative merits of Bob Marley, Che, Scarface, and Obama.

what a douche

I've been out of the loop (FOR YEARS NOW, HAHA), but when I came up for air, I saw that Wisconsin is all of a sudden a dead-heat. What happened?

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/12159/thumbs/r-OBAMAMOMENTUM-huge.jpg

not sure, really, though i guess obama's lead was never really that significant - usually hovering around 6 or 7 points.

krugman is "worried"

More like Doucheman amirite.

Every time pundits have declared a frontrunner in the Democratic race so far, that frontrunner stumbles. I'm concerned about Wisconsin tonight.

"Concerned" is too strong a word. I'd be happy if HRC is our nominee. I just think her chances against McCain are far worse than Obama's.

stupid liberals always voting for the underdog

Don't worry. Be happy. xpost

so i'm worried a little about the negative stuff - as i mentioned upthread it seems i keep reading tons of headlines about how clinton keeps slamming obama with criticisms -- but i don't hear much coming back from him.

i know obama claimed early on that he didn't want to run a negative campaign, and for the most part, i don't think he has, apart from campaign memos here and there ("hillary say/will do anything to get elected," etc), but i'm wondering if he'll need to cave in and go full throttle as clinton seems to be doing right now.

there's not a huge pool of data to extrapolate any trends from, but with that caveat in mind, hillary did very poorly in SC after she was seen 'going negative' while campaigning there -- though obviously there are huge differences between SC and WI

god, David Brooks is such a douche. Apparently now the tactic -- on both the left and right -- is to write about Obama "fatigue."

I think Obama fatigue is a result of primary fatigue, and since Obama is the interesting story of the primary, primary fatigue has become Obama fatigue.