Jean-Luc Godard: S and D

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I just finished the MacCabe book. It was decent, great in parts, but mostly unsatisfying. I would like to read a Godard autobiography!

Should I see La Chinoise?

adamrl (nordicskilla), Monday, 9 January 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Is that the one about an airport?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:54 (twenty years ago)

No it's the one about the young Marxist revolutionaries. Very talky. Kind of dry. Not my favorite Godard.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:59 (twenty years ago)

i'd hit it. actually i did. it's a satire.

alba -- you mean 'the terminal'.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

it is absolutely key not to get intimidated by the allusions because godard has never read a book in his life.

HE says... Like mid-'80s Morrissey's claims of celibacy, I bet.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:50 (twenty years ago)

obv i was exaggerating a bit, but it's something to hold in your hand.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

Cinema is JLG trying to be quoted 24 times per second.

Four Seasons, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 13:29 (twenty years ago)

In fact, I would posit that's the only thing that he and QT truly have in common.

Style over oeuvre!

Four Seasons, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 13:33 (twenty years ago)

S: the inexplicable terrier in the final shot of Bande a Part.

steviespitfire (steviespitfire), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:52 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

I see my library just got a copy of Notre Musique. Should I rent it?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

I rent it when it ws available at mine. Its so incredibly disjointed -- there isn't enough of that energy you get between the formal stuff and simplicity of any of the message.

Watched "Elegy for Love", and I love the shots -- you still get the feeling he's out there somewhere with his digital camera (or whatever) and just getting his eye working, whether it ends on a film or not.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

I saw La Chinoise again last night and liked most parts I was awake for.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

I still haven't seen it yet but school library has the full Histoire(s) Du Cinema, which I'm desperate to see. Also one of my professors mentioned a recent study that proved Godard's quotations usually come from either the first or the last few pages of whatever text he is quoting from. So he's just like the rest of us, really.

admrl, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

haha i am glad people are doing studies of that sort of thing.

tho i think jlg copped to it himself.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

"lols i haven't really read marx i was too busy sexing anna karina losers"

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

Wouldn't you?

Tom D., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

well obv.

though i get the impression from the biogs that he wasn't rly, much...

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/culturevulture/vivresavieblog.jpg

Tom D., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

No wonder she always looked so bored

Tom D., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

what did he see in Anna Wiazemsky tho?

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

she was a research project into lefty student youth, kindd of, plus she worked with bresson.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Seven years younger

Tom D., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

she was friends with cohn-bendit and that lot, and he was kind of fascinated by them. she was possibly an adviser on masculin-feminin, his first film on "that lot". he met a bunch of them at that time, late '65 -- j-p gorin, who he also worked with, too.

i think she's done an autobiography.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

A compilation of Godard bits would be his greatest film ever, and a project he might himself approve. Other than Breathless and Band of Outsiders and maybe Pierrot le Fou, his films have as many dull or awful moments as wondrous ones.

(I did like Notre Musique a lot though).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

one doesn't have to marry one's research projects!

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

Week-End
Bande A Part
Contempt
Masculin Feminin
A Woman is a Woman

are all wonderful

Alphaville
Breathless
Eloge d'amour

are okay

the rest are either forgettable or i haven't seen them

remy bean, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

hooray: band of outsiders, la chinoise, weekend, most of breathless, pierrot le fou

alright i guess: two or three things..., masculin-feminin, the little bit of histoire(s) du cinema i watched once

buhhh: alphaville, the parts of contempt that don't have bardot in them

sauve qui peut has a funny isabelle huppert getting spanked scene if i recall

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know what i think about any of them any more, but i think it's important to see all of his films up to the early seventies, or maybe a bit later. i don't get much out of the later ones that i've seen.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

I mostly find Contempt a beautiful bore.

Tout va Bien is fun! (esp long supermarket take)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

i think 'alphaville' is one of my favourites, today.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

faves:
Alphaville
Masculin Feminin
Pierrot le Fou

the others i've seen, all lovable in one way or another:
Bande A Part
Breathless
A Woman is a Woman
Week-End
Contempt
Two or Three Things...

sleep, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

I stick up for alphaville, too

RJG, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

that isn't my penis

RJG, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

my faves:
week-end
tout va bien
pierrot le fou
contempt
alphaville
notre musique too

everything else i have seen I have at least liked.

t0dd swiss, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:50 (eighteen years ago)

le mepris is the only one i really like

gershy, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:56 (eighteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Alphaville: tonight, watching it for the first time in a decade. That strange home-made collage effect of different modes and cultural flotsam: Orwellian dystopia, hard-boiled detectives, computer capitalism. It reminds me of Brecht's consciously half-baked fantasies of America, in its feeling of making it up as it goes along - a sort of experiment in imagination, trying to see what happens if you treat Paris as Alphaville and these scenes as happening in an improbably distant future. How about when Lemmy Caution asks an associate 'Dick Tracy - il est mort?': throw in any bit of cultural fantasy or fiction you want, in some kind of late version of new wave Americana.

Space: walking round and round corridors.

Also space, as in reference to galactic distances.

the pinefox, Friday, 23 November 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

Capitale de la Douleur

baaderonixx, Friday, 23 November 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

I was watching Alphaville tonight, too. Where can I get a Seductress Third Class?

Joe, Saturday, 24 November 2007 00:22 (eighteen years ago)

That's quite a coincidence. I know what you mean, too. The second one, who appears after about an hour, is particularly appealing somehow in her ... I don't know, her divergence from the Godardian / Karina norm - she looks very real.

A pretty crazy picture, in the end. Abstract car chases, film suddenly going negative, that throaty Alpha-60 voice all over the soundtrack along with the usual temporally disruptive spots of music (which run their automatic course then end before anything has finished happening - this more pronounced in Le Mepris than in Alphaville in fact) ... an ending in which the city is suddenly doomed and notre heros is driving away. The missing link, someone else who isn't even Paul Morley must have pointed out, between Nineteen Eighty-Four and Blade Runner.

the pinefox, Saturday, 24 November 2007 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

Alphaville

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 24 November 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

How weird, I watched Contempt for the first time last night.

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 24 November 2007 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

Sometimes I think ILX's art/culture impulses align like sorority sisters' periods.

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 24 November 2007 03:09 (eighteen years ago)

There's a cinema here that's doing a retrospective of all of Godard's films - currently in the 80s period. Screenings are less than 2 euros, so I could potentially go to all of them but I also have to maintain the appearance of having a social life.
Which of the following should I see?

Prenom: Carmen
Je vous salue, Marie
Detective
Soigne ta droite
King Lear
Nouvelle Vague
Le rapport Darty
Les enfants jouent a la Russie
Allemagne année 90 neuf zéro
Helas pour moi
JLG/JLG - autoportrait de decembre
For Ever Mozart
Histoires du cinema

danzig, Saturday, 24 November 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

From that list the ones I've seen and can recommend are JLG/JLG, Detective
and Histoires du Cinema.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Saturday, 24 November 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

eight months pass...

Arrested.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_rockefeller2_080805_mn.jpg

sanskrit, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 11:55 (seventeen years ago)

That actually looks like a still from a film

Tom D., Wednesday, 6 August 2008 11:55 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

I'm gonnae watch A Bout de Souffle ... pour la premiere fois? Can this be? Then Bande a Part which I have definitely not seen.

the pinefox, Thursday, 23 October 2008 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

A compilation of Godard bits would be his greatest film ever, and a project he might himself approve. Other than Breathless and Band of Outsiders and maybe Pierrot le Fou, his films have as many dull or awful moments as wondrous ones.

Breathless, at least, maybe the others too, isn't really an exception to this generalization.

Mister Jim, Friday, 24 October 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

otfm.

search: breathless
destroy: breathless

the bourgeoisie and the rebel (Stevie D), Friday, 24 October 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

Has he done anything as fun as Band of Outsiders? I haven't seen any films of his that I outright disliked, but there aren't many that I'd actually want to re-watch within a short span or purchase.

circa1916, Friday, 24 October 2008 03:07 (seventeen years ago)


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