Buffy

Poor Freddy having to watch that on set.

somewhere at the start of s6 i realized i might have fallen in love with a fictional character and i felt like a suburban housewife

Hahaha, yeah when I was writing about not thinking Riley or Spike were good enough for Buffy up there, it occurred to me that the difference between myself and a Twi-hard is basically nil. (Except I liked a better piece of fiction, I guess.)

just watched s2 finale again, so beyond-words fantastic. it's got 3 emotional climaxes that are each more devastating than the last, (~~SPOLERS~~) willow saying "oz?" after xander says he loves her, buffy with her mom in the kitchen after she tells her she's the slayer, and then...you know the third

I don't think you need to put a spoiler message up, being the only person who hasen't seen it.

just for future noobs like me who'll read this thread

future noobs really need to avoid the internet

btw the whendon commentary on "innocence" is great if u have the DVD

most whedon commentaries are great. him and espenson are a+

hate to say it yall but s3 is kinda dragging. seems like it's struggling to find a direction - angel's back (cool!) but he's locked in a mansion with like two lines per episode? this last one i just watched was MUCH better, ep 7 where they have to destroy the glove, but i want cool villains again, i'm getting tired of this goosebumps shit. also good god i hope we're dont with scott, LAME-O

hopefully it'll pick up like s2 did

just hold on with season 3. it's fantastic overall--i don't think season 2 was particularly pulled together at the same point either.

season 3 has the best villain of all buffy seasons btw fuk u if u disagree

buffy dvd commentaries are totally boring except when joss does them ime

season 3 has the best villain of all buffy seasons btw fuk u if u disagree

― horseshoe, Tuesday, February 2, 2010 9:42 PM (16 minutes ago)

don't name names if it's not him but i hope you're not talking about trick

It is not! You are in for a treat!

ok FUCK THIS SHOW for making me think cordelia died!!!

spike is back! buffy just told angel not to see her anymore :(

gr8 episode

love k3v's unfolding experience, kiu

yep, s3 definitely picks up, possibly my fave season

I totes forgot about Mr. Trick. Thanks for bringin' the memories, bruv.

The end of S3 will have you out of your chair and cheering. Just wait and see how much better it gets.

omg i forgot about the cordy thing. :( and mr. trick! What are your thoughts on Faith, Kev?

KEVIN PLZ PROVIDE REAL TIME REAX UPDATES ON EVERY EPISODE AS A PERSONAL FAVOUR TO ME.

thank you.

Gosh but I'm feeling chipper! Who's for a root beer?

Yeah, this is pretty awesome, watching someone discovering all this stuff from scratch. More updates please.

haha <3 u guys

faith seems pretty cool so far, idk she hasn't really been developed yet or anything, kinda just kick ass and hot. she's mad at buffy right now (which reminds me WHY IS EVERYONE SO MEAN TO BUFFY?!? like the second episode or so when she comes back and they have that 'party' at her house, and they like gang up on her in front of everybody - and WHILE PPL WERE GETTING EATEN BY ZOMBIES IIRC - for leaving for the summer. thennnn everyone's all up in arms about the angel being back thing, which imo isn't that damn big a deal. everyone knows his deal, he has his soul back and he's kinda helpful this way iirc! btw buffy just like broke it off with him? wtf. but yeah as long as they don't smoosh i dont see the big deal. people are just being MOODY lately ffs.)

i remember rolling my eyes when you guys said cordi turns out to be an awesome character, but damn i love her now, the show PLAYED ME when it made me think she died, and then plus i feel super bad for her about xander making out with willow & shit becuase like, she's super self-absorbed and stuff but she's really good to xander and kinda genuinely likes him!

so yeah i havent put much thought into it or anything but that's where i'm at

which imo isn't that damn big a deal.

Did you not cry watching Passion or

Also Cordy becomes the bestest the moment she stands up to Harmony.

of course i cried watching "passion"! but he's not the same guy who did that, imo he and buffy are legit in love, it's not angel's fault he's a vamp

idk tho a month or so ago i learned that you guys don't like chris from gilmore girls, which blew my mind!

Kevin hitting up s3 made me return- watched Faith, Hope and Trick. I think I can still quote the whole season word by word. <3 Faith freaking out when cloven hands guy comes back. I really can't think of another show who would put such emotional responsibility onto a new character in their first episode. May have to go watch Band Candy now.

(Man I am such a Whedon geek. I was kinda hoping it would go away if I ignored it but no. Buffy at its best is better than any tv ever. And possibly better than any moving pictures ever filmed. Maybe.)

Chris was always kinda boring. He was supposed to be the rebel- which never really worked; then he settled down to be mr. boring character and then... he just wasn't luke? i dunno.

well i've only seem a little more than 3 seasons of GG (gonna finish 4 after buffy s3 and the wire s3) but he's just such a likeable guy imo, i mean most of the time i prefered luke but chris has heart

but anyway im gonna go play basketball and then watch another ep or 2

WHY IS EVERYONE SO MEAN TO BUFFY?!?

god i know those episodes in the beginning are so painful to watch. i love her!

Willow and Xander should have been horsewhipped for the way they treated Buffy in that episode.

:D i'm glad you guys feel that way, it wa so weird, i seriously thought it was one of her many dream sequences! they just kept being meaner and meaner

srsly i kinda hate that episode, everyone's just horrible and I don't think it fits the characters.

the one where spike comes back is great though, basically every time spike and joyce hang out it's pure gold.

""get the hell away from my daughter"?"

Well, to play the devil's advocate, Buffy completely disappeared without any contact, leaving them alone with a town full of demons so she could find herself for a few months. And she really kinda treated her mother like crap considering everything that got dumped on her at the end of S2. Then she comes back after all that without a ton of remorse about it. Sure, she had her reasons, but I didn't think they were too overly harsh. Teen angst!

they had a reason to be upset but i'd agree with the out-of-character criticism, that's exactly the same way i felt

agreed also about spike and buffy's mom, great running gag

haha THEY KILLED CORDI AGAIN but the whole episode was kind of a wash (s3e09), you basically knew all the stuff happening in bizarro world was just gonna get undone anyway.

they had a reason to be upset but i'd agree with the out-of-character criticism, that's exactly the same way i felt

Yeah, it's weird -- once or twice every season, someone will do something that feels out-of-character or outlandish purely to motivate a storyline, and it riles me up WAY more on Buffy than it would on any other show. Maybe because otherwise the characters are so well-drawn and consistent?

This thread is killing me, I want to go back and watch S3 but I don't have the tiiiiiiiiime

ok so right after a pretty average episode they go and throw an "amends" at us

glad oz and will seem to be back on track...tbh xander is getting on my nerves and he doesnt deserve cordi.

the end of this episode where angel wants to kill himself and buffy argues him out of it is really moving, that conversation had so many layers and when buffy told him she loved him i lost it. seems like he's still gotta get whatever that evil force is/jenny calendar off his back? and where is spike!

Anya has turned up! Spike went back for Dru didn't he to compete against the fungus demon for her affections?

Xander is basically a dick, see. Watching him descend to that level of dickishness is uncomfortable but I think true to his character. I think in the second half of season 2 he finally felt that (with Angel discredited) he could be the hero both for the group and for Buffy personally, and Angel's return infuriated him for that reason more than any other.

(i still like him though - his dickishness feels rather sympathetic to me)

i know what you're saying but i just can't take him being such a selfish prick all the time, plus EVERY TIME there's a tense situation he has the lamest one-liners, STOP IT ALREADY

and lol as if i couldn't dislike joyce any more, she's a crazy witchhunting right-winger

that wasn't her fault; she was under the influence of those children of the corn! joyce is the best.

willow's mom is an asshole though

Ok, Band Candy was when I warmed to Joyce. By the end of season 4 though, she was absolutely <3

i eventually warmed up to Joyce, too. Xander, unfortunately...