WTF?: "Seinfeld"'s Michael 'Kramer' Richards in Weird-o-Rama Onstage Meltdown

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They still do Nixon, Patton, and Perot imitations on there? That show is the epitome of old white men sitting around making tasteless observations while thinking that they're still somehow "with it". Anybody who excuses a rich white cowboy-hat-wearin' Connecticut native (sound familiar?) who complains about the shocks in his limousine for making racially insensitive comments about female college student-athletes is a complete and utter moron.

― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Imus is from Riverside, CA.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

(and let me tell you how EXCITED I am to share a birthplace with such a loser)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

I have on occasion watched his show on MSNBC while readying myself for work. I always found him to be a pretty agreeable guy. I guess he's an ass. I hadn't heard enough of him to see this side of him.

Dude called Cheney a war criminal, which I thought was pretty cool.

useless post. sorry

― Benjamin H, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Can I delete that previous post? Dumb

― Benjamin H, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

nope sorry it's on the internets forever and ever.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Connecticut resident then...

x-post

― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Stern did plenty of similar shit in the '80s (esp re faggots), but the cultural consciousness was a bit lower then and I'm sure you won't get tapes of it from HS.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

doug ireland's classic takedown of sharpton (just shows that anybody can achieve respect in politics if they stick around long enough)
http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/a-prayer-for-rev-al/1974/

― gershy, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

i don't dispute, nabisco, that sharpton's a good small-time organizer and big-time loudspeaker but he's well-assisted in the latter dept (and by extension in the former) by two new york tabloid newspapers that, you recall, are GOP and at least centrist/moderately neo-con in orientation. also, am i the only person who knows right-leaning white people of, say, mort zuckerman's age who totally disagree with sharpton but experience a little thrill from his speech/appearance/manner?

i also wonder why we didn't question the image-making utility (for either blacks or the Dems) of his calling blacks old donkey-riders at DNC '04. and if he's such a leader, why in that regard did the repblican share of the black vote increase?

meanwhile, someone who may or may not have leaked to drudge would like you to know that imus illustrates that obama may not be there for black people like hillary/sharpton. i suppose it doesn't matter whether hillary can keep the black vote and therefore the nomination, though. i mean, she would be a "formidable" candidate. even john mccain and newt gingrich have said so.

― gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

of, say, mort zuckerman's age

or john turturro's age c. 1989, even

― gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

from Hotline Blog...

Chicago Tribune's Page: "I like Don Imus personally. I can't read his heart and say if he's a racist. All I know is he says racist things from time to time" ("Hardball," MSNBC, 4/10).

Congressional Quarterly's Crawford: "I've been on the show nearly 70 times in the last three years. He's called me half a sissy, a communist, a pink liberal, even white trash. I didn't take offense" ("Scarborough Country," MSNBC, 4/10).

you know, Craig Crawford, I like you personally, but...

― gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

we should all just be thankful that british people don't know who imus is.

-- ghost rider, Tuesday, 10 April

i was about to say, theres not a single brit on this thread since the imus revival (until now). Yea, no one here will have heard of this guy. And i doubt many british people here will have heard of the phrase 'nappy-headed' either

shall i tell the other brits to come on over?

ok i wont

― 600, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

we know what a nappy head is because of the Fugees tune innit?

but no, imus means nuffin to us.

― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

I had to look up nappyhead to find out what it meant (and all the UK hits are for cool baby gifts).

― onimo, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

Jason Whitlock with the, um, Jason Whitlock perspective:

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

OH! I was just wondering why there was no Imus thread, and here it is, disguised as a Michael Richards thread.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha Jon Swift:

I know what Imus and Coulter and their friends in the media must be feeling. If you can't refer to black people as "nappy-headed," to women as "hos" and "bitches" or homosexuals as "faggots" anymore, how do you refer to them? Could someone please let us know?

― kingfish, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

dude is the crypt-keeper. he's pushing 70. should have retired 20 years ago.

http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/partypictures/2005/11_03_05/images/bam/Best-of-Brooklyn-12.jpg

― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.johnmcolumbus.com/fotos_b/ConMag_IMUS_Crop9815.jpg

― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

"we know what a nappy head is because of the Fugees tune innit?"

The only place i've heard it is "I Wish" by Stevie Wonder

― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, he's wearing the Connecticut state uniform!

― Eazy, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

First awareness of nappy = School Daze.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

i would like to say that his wife's cleaning products are excellent and i use them every night. in fact, i waxed the floor in the operating room last nite using her floor stripper and wax. they are designed to be safe enough and green enough to be used in pediatric oncology units and they are way less harsh than heavy-duty industrial cleaners.

http://www.dienviro.com/index1.aspx?BD=17866

so, um , hat's off to the idiot's wife!

― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Leave it to TownHall.com to try and accentuate the positive:

http://townhall.com/columnists/KathleenParker/2007/04/11/don_imus_via_dolorosa

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Imus at a Broadway show once. The camera flatters him.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Why stop with imus when you can go after him & al sharpton at the same time?

― kingfish, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha oh let's all pile on, and quote Top 40 hip hop lyrics now!

― kingfish, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I heard nappy first from one of my Mom's friends, who for a time used it to describe anything unattractive or unpleasant. Like, "Do the dishes, the kitchen is getting nappy." One day she said to me, "You know what that means, don't you?" I admitted that I did not. She whispered, "Nigger-haired!" and then beamed, clearly proud of herself.

― kenan, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Your mom sounds fat

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

actually, she's tiny. that story wasn't about my mom, though.

― kenan, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm wondering what the role of the media has been in escalating this and making it such a huge deal. As far as I can tell Imus has said way worse stuff in the past, so either this is wrong place/wrong time or a sort of built-up payment for years of being an asshole. Seems like it could have just as easily been a non-story.

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking the same thing -- this seemed like a typical Morning Zoo half-minstrelsy.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Zazzier than reporting on boring old war, climate change, and attorney general shenanigans, i guess

― kingfish, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I have pretty conflicted feelings about the comments and reaction. While he has clearly said worse, his statements are such a neat encapsulation (I'd almost say a microcosm) of rich white men denegrating blacks (and especially black women), which is more or less the story of American race relations for 200+ years. I almost want to minimize and maximize them at the same time. And while I'm certain the Rutgers women weren't nearly as shattered as they're making out to be, he absolutely did detract from their moment and tarnish their effort somehow. And yet, the media outcry/coverage helped that happen.....gah.....it's confusing.

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Imus is a hack and always has been. That so many people have knelt before him is shameful. What a fucking tool.

― Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

i think it was just out and out MEAN. jeez, that team is the coolest and some of them are just kids. fuck him. hope he goes and rots on his ranch. props to his wife and her excellent floor-wax though. he should stick his throwaway lame-ass comment about people ten times cooler and more talented than him up his ASS.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

He's been an asshole for years. I don't know what in the hell compels so many people to go on his show.

― Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

quoting the rich boy song doesn't even make sense, bitch refers to the car in that case.

is townhall a left or right wing site? i've never seen it before.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

right

― gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

cynical interpretation: sharpton's ensuring hillary doesn't have to go on the show

cynicism justified?

― gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

What reason could anyone have to oppose him being fired? If some brand new morning talk radio personality was hired by a major network and broadcast nationally over public airwaves, and on his first day on the job he made that same comment and it was met by the same response, what are the odds he would end up staying? Is there some grandfather clause that allows talk veterans to get away with this sort of stuff?

― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

The only good thing to come out of all of this is Scott's link to the cleaning products.

― Nicole, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_101052815.html

― gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

What a bold move, to go on record as a powerful white male in the United States, and say that you believe in one of the fundamental tenets of Christianity/Bob Marley.

― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

man sharpton owns him on that radio show.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

The Obama campaign declined to comment yesterday on its handling of the issue. One adviser pointed out, however, that Obama issued a public comment before the other major Democratic candidates -- including Clinton and former senator John Edwards of North Carolina.

lol double standard lol

― deej, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

I first heard "nappy" in middle school, from classmates.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.scene-stealers.com/images/uploads/bulworth2.jpeg

― gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

The "but, but RAP" excuse is terrifically funny for all sorts of reasons -- I mean, even conceding that ever since McCain dropped that guest verse on The Massacre, the language of political talk radio is legitimately comparable to the language of music, it'd seem pretty clear that the black people most critical of these comments (like NAACP leaders or Sharpton) are not exactly huge defenders of misogyny in pop music. But I know conservatives have trouble telling black people apart like that.

One great subtextual irony of the athlete's press conference is that they all had their hair pressed nice and flat for the event.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

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