ILX BOOKS OF THE 00s: THE RESULTS! (or: Ismael compiles his reading list, 2010-2019)

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huh, I thought that would've been way higher. While it's certainly flawed it would've been dangling around somewhere in my list, and I assumed that would be the case for many. Perhaps the long discussions of it here I remember were really just Pinefox talking to himself about how awful it is.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 January 2010 10:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I really like White Teeth but I love On Beauty - I just read an article on Smith which suggested she considered the latter to be almost a repudiation of the former (or The Autograph Man maybe) but I think of it as just a major refinement, focusing the same sense of imaginative fun that nabisco gets at in the quote above on a better story and better characters.

Tim F, Friday, 22 January 2010 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Completely agree. White Teeth was fine with the autobiographical stuff, then spiralled into absurdity with the strawman middle class family, KEVIN, etc. On Beauty has so much more poise and storytelling muscle, and so much more to say - about class, education, physicality, betrayal. I was surprised how much I loved it.

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 22 January 2010 10:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha - here's the sentence I omitted from nabisco's quote: "But it looks as if Zadie wants to hop straight ahead to being Serious and Meaningful and Too Be Reckoned With, and I'm not up-to-speed enough to know what else could fill this gap."

I'm surprised this is so low too - loads of the quotes I didn't use are about how ubiquitous it was, at Ned's library, in the hands of every commuter on the tube, etc. etc. It didn't get nominated until really late on either. I suspect people mostly think of it as 90s, same as may have happened to No Logo.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 January 2010 10:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm sorry about the pace of all this, by the way - I've been exceptionally busy and it's all I can do to get four or five of these up a day. I'm going to Spain for a few days, and then have a pretty busy schedule after that, so chances are that after today there'll be nothing for a week or so. I had hoped to get down to number 50 today and then have an interlude, but I don't think I'll even manage that.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 January 2010 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

here's a prejudice - whenever I see people reading 'one of those books EVERYBODY'S reading', be it 'White Teeth' or 'Captain Corelli' or 'Memoirs of a Geisha' or 'Bridget Jones', I assume the person is really really stupid and boring, and if I ever (God forbid) end up talking to the person it will take a long time for them to change my mind, if ever.
― dave q, Monday, July 30, 2001 12:00 AM (8 years ago)

I have this problem, totally. I am rubbish and mean.

And Ismael, don't worry about it - I think we're all just grateful that you took the time out to do it in the first place.

emil.y, Friday, 22 January 2010 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not, the pacing is ruining this for me tbh

dumb mick name follows (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

i read everything but the last twenty pages of white teeth. i remember there was this bit gonna happen where all the characters were gonna be in the same place for different reasons and shit was gonna go down

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i remember there was this bit gonna happen where all the characters were gonna be in the same place for different reasons and shit was gonna go down

that can probably go here tbh top100- stock plot devices for important works of literature

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 22 January 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, I'm going to have to leave it at number 60 and get back to it probably in a week or so. Thanks for reading this far!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 January 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Ismael's taking a chance that we don't take over the running of this competition ourselves - a pirated top 60! Number 1 - the Sinai Diving Guide!!

RedRaymaker, Friday, 22 January 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

A close second: Porn Studies!

alimosina, Friday, 22 January 2010 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

59. All Pets Go to Heaven - Sylvia Browne (2009)
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abanana, Saturday, 23 January 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

"the truth that exists in the forth dimension"

DavidM, Saturday, 23 January 2010 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

o dear. I wish I could lol, but as an animal lover who accepts that past pets NO LONGER EXIST stuff like that just makes me sad. Incidentally, my extensive wikiresearch reveals that Caroline Myss' PhD is in Intuition and and Energy Medicine from the unaccredited Greenwich University. I trust the shit out of her.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 23 January 2010 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for doing this Ismael.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 January 2010 12:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I was about to defend Greenwich University, but then I realised that Greenwich University in Australia is not the same as the University of Greenwich, UK. I am probably not the first person to be confused by that.

canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 23 January 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link

58. The Wit of Martin Luther - Eric W. Gritsch (2006)

RedRaymaker, Saturday, 23 January 2010 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link

(42 points, 4 votes)

Marty Rocks, September 22, 2007 (on Amazon)
"I was amazed to find that this incredible theologian was also a great wit. Eric Gritsch has woven a rye story of the human and funny side of Martin Luther."


J. Ferguson (on Amazon)
"This book tells of the humorous side of Martin Luther. There are points in this book that make me chuckle, but the way it is written is a bit complicated, definitely not in simple English. Overall, the reader can get what the writer is saying, but it is not an easy read."

Christianbook.com
"Eric Gritsch ties Luther's wit and humor to his sharp polemical exploitation of the absurd or incongruous in service to his Reform. At a deeper level Luther's wit and witticisms reflected his keen appreciation of human frailty and the unknowability of things divine. Luther, Gritsch shows, especially relished humor in his interpretation of the Bible, in his pastoral relationships, and in his encounters with death. Ultimately humor in face of mortality is a gauge of human freedom, a "lightening up" that makes of life a divine comedy."

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RedRaymaker, Saturday, 23 January 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

oh and thanks Ismael, hope you enjoy yr holiday. We'll do our best to read everything on the list so far while you're gone. Also, to finish the list for you.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 23 January 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

57. Fan-Tan - Marlon Brando and Donald Cammell (2005)
http://home.comcast.net/~flickhead/brando001.jpg

(47 points, 3 votes)

"...it's one of those books that I just had to keep going with, to find out how much worse it could possibly get, and in this regard, the book never once failed me." -Amazon reviewer

alimosina, Saturday, 23 January 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

56. Black Velvet Masterpieces: Highlights from the Collection of the Velveteria Museum - Caren Anderson and Carl Baldwin (2008)
(55 points, 4 votes)

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/or/ORPORvelveteria_ks3643.jpg

alimosina, Saturday, 23 January 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

55. Alien Agenda: Investigating the Extraterrestrial Presence Among Us - Jim Marrs (2000)
(62 points, 5 votes)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31TRyRSqGAL.jpg

"He incorporates an ample amount of information from UFO books of the 1960s and 1970s--strange lights on the moon, the ancient-astronaut theories of Erich von Daniken, cattle mutilations, Nazi saucers at the South Pole, the contactees of the 1950s--and updates it credibly with UFO data from the 1980s and 1990s, providing a reasonable survey of abductions, secret underground UFO bases, the MJ-12 group, crop circles, remote viewing, and channeling."

alimosina, Sunday, 24 January 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

54. A to Izzard: A Harry Stephen Keeler Companion - Fender Tucker (2009)
(131 points, 10 votes)
http://site.xavier.edu/polt/keeler/jackets/ducaglio.jpg

An indispensible guide to the genius of Keeler.

alimosina, Sunday, 24 January 2010 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Bloody hell, I forgot that loljoekanswers took over and was thinking proper wtf

dumb mack maine follows (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 24 January 2010 09:35 (fourteen years ago) link

53. The Adventures of Larry The Lemur - Ralph Castenada (2004)
(140, 8 votes)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51yRP7Xdi4L._SS500_.jpg

Arguably one of the best set of Lemur-based adventures of recent years.

Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 January 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

52. Making Waves (The Autobiography) - David Hasselhoff (2006)

142 points, 11 votes

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3.0 out of 5 stars Speedo might've been a little tight while writing this one, July 8, 2007
By Nerd Alert "Xon" (California) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Don't Hassel the Hoff: The Autobiography (Hardcover)
"I didn't want to buy this book; I didn't want to read this book, but I couldn't pass it up. It was like standing in line at the grocery store and trying so hard not to look at the tabloids but failing and finally tearing through the magazine to see who got a new set of boobs.
The good part is you won't be bogged down with a complicated writing style or busy flipping back and forth between "the Hoff" and a dictionary. The juvenile writing style will allow you to fly through this book. On another good note, you will laugh out loud many times at how unbelievably arrogant this guy is. He is friends with every star, the ladies love him, Dirk Nowitzki shoots free throws at 90% because of his music, he leveled the Berlin Wall, oh and he is the most watched TV star of all time. Those are only some of his accomplishments, it takes nearly 300 pages to fit all of them in.
Seriously though, the Hoff could've gotten a little more personal with his life. This book is mostly filled with fluff and doesn't go into much detail about anything the reader might find really interesting. He dances around any wxtra relationships he might've had along the way and side-steps anything that might be controversial. It's like listening to a politician promote himself. He actually goes into great detail about Knight Rider and Baywatch episodes and their meanings, give me a break.
But here I am writing about it, so I guess I'm the sucker. If you find pop-culture funnny maybe you should pick this up for some comic relief. But hide the dust jacket because your friends are certain to give you a hard time for reading about this clown.

Now all I need is a Steven Segal book and I'll be set."

RedRaymaker, Sunday, 24 January 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

xposts ah! Thanks for that, I heard about Mr Keeler somewhere but then forgot his name. Another victory for the ILX books of the 00s list B-).

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 24 January 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Enough pop culture -- now the list gets down to serious business. What made the past ten years of history so historical?

51. The Leadership Genius of George W. Bush - Carolyn B. Thompson and James W. Ware (2002)
(161 points, 13 votes)
http://www.g-8.de/Content/EN/StatischeSeiten/G8/Lebensl_C3_A4ufe/Bilder/george-w-bush,property=poster.jpg

alimosina, Sunday, 24 January 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

50. An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror - David Frum and Richard Perle (2003)
(168 points, 2 votes)
http://www.chris-floyd.com/war/images/030925_ss_iraq_01_jpg.jpg

"But the greatest contribution of "An End to Evil" is its full-throated, passionate defense of the rightness of our cause." - Mona Charen

alimosina, Sunday, 24 January 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

49. Why the Real Estate Boom Will Not Bust - And How You Can Profit from It: How to Build Wealth in Today's Expanding Real Estate Market - David Lereah (2006)
(190 points, 26 votes)
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“An invaluable book... Today’s real estate markets are booming and Lereah makes a convincing case for why the real estate expansion will continue into the next decade. This book should prove to be a truly practical guide for any household looking to create wealth in real estate.” —Dewey Daane, former governor of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors

alimosina, Sunday, 24 January 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

48. "Dow, 30,000 by 2008!" Why It's Different This Time - Robert Zuccaro (2008)
(198 points, 31 votes)
http://static.howstuffworks.com//gif/stock-market-trends-2.jpg

"The author is an intelligent fellow with a gift for writing, it is just that he was completely wrong on everything. [...] Now his two mutual funds are out of business." - Amazon reviewer

alimosina, Sunday, 24 January 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

47. Apollyon Rising 2012: The Lost Symbol Found and the Final Mystery of the Great Seal Revealed - Thomas Horn (2009)
(214 points, 17 votes)
http://www.the2012countdown.com/images/122-doomsday2012.jpg

After the wild fantasies of Frum and Perle, it's refreshing to come back to earth with this pragmatic analysis of the approaching New World Order.

"Horn provides other surprising connections to the year 2012 in the Capitol Dome and structures immediately surrounding D.C., ultimately laying the groundwork for what he calls "the true lost symbol, which Dan Brown completely missed." This symbol is connected to the Capitol Dome as the ancient structural representation of the womb of Isis, and the Obelisk, the ancient representation of the erect male phallus of Osiris. How this is connected to the year 2012 and the return of Osiris/Apollo/Nimrod in Apollyon Rising 2012 is disturbing, especially the magic square in the base of the Washington Monument that "binds" the Bible's influence."

alimosina, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

You guys. It'll be Tuesday before I can get stuck back into this properly I think. Developments in my absence distress me - I'm glad to see Larry the Lemur and I think his presence graces us, but I cannot and will not compete with Hoff.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

46. Cheese Problems Solved - PLH McSweeney (2007)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412cIU2bZqL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

"For the dedicated cheese enthusiast, this £135 guide promises to answer 200 or so of the most commonly asked questions about cheese and the cheese-making process, 'from problems arising during the preparation of cheesemilk and cheese ripening to queries regarding cheese analysis and the nutritional profile of cheese'. You’ll be delighted to hear that cheddar, blue cheese and mozzarella each merit their own sections."

take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

233 points, 15 votes fyi

take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

there isn't a combination of 15 votes that makes 233 you chancer.

Not even if your arse had nipples (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

a+ job ruining this thread u guyz

b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a good shout for a mod intervention here, if a mod would be so good.

Not even if your arse had nipples (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

just a bit of fun let's be cool

take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Confessions of a Brazilian Bikini Waxer
240 points, 6 votes
http://waxconfessions.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/bktiltlr.jpg

This book is a riot! My wife had a layover at LAX and three people approached her when they saw the cover page. The author has three things going for her: She knows how to treat her clients, she's a creative and expert waxer, and she's got some hilarious stories to share. I promised my wife more approaches from my 747 if she gets a landing strip someday!

strange obsession was for certain vegetables and fruit (Derelict), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

btw 20*9 + 10*5 + 3*1

take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Larry the Lemur is an avid reader, so he fits right in.

Extraordinary Chickens - Stephen Green-Armytage (2000)
241 points, 6 votes
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/SvpQrkb0yMI/AAAAAAAAJ-Q/zUVrESwVj7o/s400/Extraordinary+Chickens+cover.jpg

alimosina, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

btw 20*9 + 10*5 + 3*1

― take me to your lemur (ledge), 27 January 2010 17:27 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh no my careful research ruined

Not even if your arse had nipples (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 January 2010 10:14 (fourteen years ago) link

It's cool. This has been an amusing, if at times admittedly farcical, half time entertainment during Ismael's unveiling of the results. We should think of this interlude as equivalent to Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson's half time extravaganza during Superbowl XXXVIII in 2004:

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Like Justin, and certainly Janet, a few of us might indeed have made tits of ourselves whilst Ismael's been away, but as we've seen the ref is back in town and he's about to get the second half underway.

We should also draw comfort from the fact that even though it may have gone tits up during half time in Superbowl XXXVIII, the second half of that game is widely considered to have contributed to what was widely renowned as the "Greatest Superbowl of all time" according to commentators such as Peter King in Sports Illustrated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII

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So, let's get our pompoms out, oh yeah, start shaking them, Oh Yeah, start stamping our feet and shouting at the top of our voices, OH YEAH, as Ismael runs back down the tunnel to kick off the second half of this wonderful spectacle that is the ILX BOOKS OF THE OOs!!!!!!!!! Give us a S, Give us an "I", give us an "N", Give us an "A", Give us an "I", OH YEAHHHH!!!!!

Take it away, Ismael*! .........

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* Ismael/Hoff are interchangeable, as desired, as we all know that they have the same relationship as Clark Kent and Superman do; Spain my arse, I know that Ismael was actually in Germany to attend to his adoring fans.

RedRaymaker, Friday, 29 January 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Ismael, if you want, I could take all this stuff off the thread when you come back to repost the ACTUAL non-joke results.

vacation to outer darkness (Abbott), Friday, 29 January 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Abbott, is there a way for people who aren't running the blog to intervene in such ways? If so, how is it possible? It surprises me that that would be possible except for a moderator or the host of the site. I'm new to blogs so don't really know how it works, so bear with me please.

RedRaymaker, Friday, 29 January 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

This is a message board. I am a moderator so I'd be able to do it, if Ismael wants.

vacation to outer darkness (Abbott), Friday, 29 January 2010 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope that answers your question. I am kind of confused, I admit, why you think ilxor.com is a blog.

vacation to outer darkness (Abbott), Friday, 29 January 2010 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link


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