iPhone apps S/D

second thing i do is to try to find all the threads where my favorite ilxor poster cutty has posted to

ah that's some fridge door antics, that. xp

either way, GF: it says to plug it in

http://i45.tinypic.com/ndaib5.jpg

wears the titts at?

Oh, can confirm that the sleepytime thing works for double occupant beds too. Me and the missus both running our own copies, and both getting very different graphs. Trouble is, hers keeps going off before mine and waking me up when I'm still in deep sleep, gah.

i guess you'll need to break up :(

my condolences =(

jeez jim sorry to hear about your divorce

i'm surprised how different my daily graphs are so far

It's weird seeing how infrequently I dream some nights. Last night was nearly all deep sleep apart from one big hour-long spike into dreaming. Was a great dream, too.

4am-5am I might as well as have been dead. tiny little ridges, right down at the very bottom of the graph

oh yeah: I don't think it went off this morning either. When I picked it up, it had a notification box on top of it, which puts it in the background. I think that stops the sounds.

tiny little ridges, right down at the very bottom of the graph

that was me last night. just so happens cat knocked my phone on the floor. the floor slept very well.

It's weird seeing how infrequently I dream some nights

Without wanting to get into a repeat of the argument yesterday and incur Cutty's wrath again: er, meh. I'm guessing it's basing it on some quite old but widely accepted notions about muscle movement before/after REM sleep (e.g. Dement and Kleitman, 1957) but -- for instance -- there are some interesting, newer theories about at which stages dreaming happens, etc (e.g. Solms, 2000: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=84265). Gottesmann (2009) looks like it might be an interesting review of some of this stuff, if anyone gives a shit (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/pmc/articles/PMC2625318/). Then again, I've not read it, so hey.

Anyway, enough of that. Where were we? Oh aye, the app. I tried it out last night and it's actually quite neat, isn't it? It wasn't a great deal of use for me this morning, right enough, because Mrs F got up about half an hour before I needed to, so I was woken by her coming back into the bedroom and clattering about with make-up boxes and wardrobes etc: it didn't seem worth even trying to go back to sleep after that, so I just switched the alarm off. Tomorrow, though, I can have a bit of a lie-in so I'm interested to see how it goes.

I know I was being a bit of a cock about the graph etc yesterday but it is quite interesting, isn't it? I found myself sort-of waking up at various points in the night and thinking: "Wonder if this'll show up on the stats tomorrow?" and it sort-of has (though not always as "awake") ... that said, according to this I also woke the fuck up sharpish at 4.30am, which I don't remember at all. Had seven hours' decent kip, though. And didn't knock the phone off the bed/squash it/etc, so that's got to be a bonus.

i don't think the purpose of the app is to tell you when you are dreaming

it's interesting tho. always heard that "you dream x times a night, you just don't remember" when I've always felt there are some nights with tons of dreams and some nights with barely one. graphs so far seem to more or less back that up.

i don't think the purpose of the app is to tell you when you are dreaming

Yes, I absolutely agree: I think this is all a total blind alley, and I admit it's largely me who led us all up it.

graphs so far seem to more or less back that up

Hmmmm: yeh, but the graphs say so little, really (esp that can be validated) that you can pretty much read whatever you want into them/confirm your own biases and assumptions.

I think one interesting thing with the graph will be when I'm drunk: Mrs F says there are nights I've passed out and been in pretty much exactly the same position when she's eventually kicked me in the head to wake me up. Hey, that's a good excuse to get absolutely loaded: "I want to see what my sleep graph looks like" :)

If anyone's still looking for a radio app, I've just bought TuneIn Radio and it's fantastic.

It even allows backgrounding! Kidnda. If you ask it to, it opens the stream you're listening to in safari, and then you can click home and get on with other stuff while it plays in the background.

Oh, that'd be sweet. Key question: does it get BBC stations? I'm using the similarly named but different TuneIn.FM iCar Radio and for my limited needs it's pretty lovely.

Sleep Cycle update: did a really nice job of waking me up just as I was waking up this morning, if you see what I mean. So ... OK, OK, I WAS WRONG. It happens. A lot.

Got Sleep Cycle. On night 4 and it works, but I'm sure I wake up in anticipation of it waking me up. I suppose that still means it works.

It gets BBC stations (including local BBC), but they don't have backgroundable streams, annoyingly.

Got Sleep Cycle. On night 4 and it works, but I'm sure I wake up /in anticipation/ of it waking me up. I suppose that still means it works.

this happens to me all the time wrt to regular alarm clocks, except I'll usually do so 2, 3 hours before the scheduled time :{

Okay, I'm looking for a solution where I can sit down once a week, and make to do lists for each day in the coming week, and then have it sync w/ the phone over the air. Do I really need to buy an app and join some god damn GTD cult to do this? Can I seriously not do it with google and/or ical?

you can make google cal sync with the calendar app on iphone over the air...

There's a website that does exactly this but I can't remember the name at all; will search for a link

I've used Remember the Milk for years for todo's. It's a paid service though, at least if you want to use the iPhone app to sync with the web client.

PS I'm seriously fascinated with this special (and ridiculous) type of rage I feel/have observed where you're all "why the fuck won't my future tricorder do the Exact Thing I want?!?!?"

stet that would be lovely btw

Ah it's http://teuxdeux.com -- the iphone app isn't out yet, but it's coming shortly

looks interesting.. "teux deux" is pronounced "tuh duh" in french though, not sure that's what they had in mind??

Re: Sleep Cycle. Don’t: argue with ex on the phone, go to sleep furious with self and ex, knock iphone onto floor while throwing self around in sleep at 4am, pick it up, knock it off again, pick it up again, then go into flatliner-sleep at 5.30 am, giving app no choice but to set off the alarm at 6 as set. Graph shows furious dreaming, much of which I unfortunately remember.

I am very close to starting a 'post your sleep cycle graph' thread

hahah yeah every morning I wonder if there's some kind of sleep cycle watercooler thread!

last week i had some nice flatlining going on

since the weekend things have been more like this :-/

http://i50.tinypic.com/30xcwn8.jpg

that looks pretty healthy to me!

yeah that's what mine mostly look like

only had an iphone since christmas and oh boy, i don't know how i'd manage without it. my last phone was ~7 years old with buttons missing.

favourite apps:

trivial pursuit - good for falling out with the gf, feeling stupid, being bored in a pub.

spotify - in cambridge we get a really good 3g signal, moving to london in a few days, will test it out there. it crashes a lot, but eh, a lot of music for £10. currently assembling a playlist the massive list of tracks from the 70s that was posted on ILM a while back.

karajan - really good for practicing your aural skills if you're into that sort of thing. recognising intervals, chords, scales, etc works really well

jasuto - its fun making little synths

what's the name of the eno oblique strategies app? no luck searching app store :(

figured this was a good night's sleep

http://i47.tinypic.com/rj1cp4.jpg

that's a good night's coma.

shitty graph straight from wkpdia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Hypnogramme.svg/319px-Hypnogramme.svg.png

crackle that's gotta be phone on the floor, no?

nope, phone in the same place every night.

London's generally fine, Crackle. The odd drop out and blank spot, but few and far between. Quite a lot of open zones as well, which the iphone automatically joins for free.

what's that wkpedia "hypnogramme"?

some really shitty graph that gives a vague indication of proper sleep cycles - you should be going in and out of deep sleep every 90mins or so.

what's the name of the eno oblique strategies app? no luck searching app store :(

Hmm. It's called Oblique -- I've got it here on my phone -- but you're right, it's not on the store any more. Anyone know any more about that?

Crackle: LOL/WTF/etc at your coma-graph!

I am very close to starting a 'post your sleep cycle graph' thread

Despite everything I said upthread, I like this idea now. And this app.

Stet: yes, I know. I fucking know. Fuck off.

so dramatic

*Swishes cape. Falls over*

(For context: since about 2000, there's been a horribly replicable pattern along the lines of:

Stet: See this new thing? This is awesome, this.
Grimly: Meh. Bollocks. Bag of balls. Looks fucking pish. Wouldn't use it if you paid me. Etc.

Weeks/days/minutes pass

Grimly: This is good, isn't it?
Stet: You're an anus.

The only time this didn't happen was with, er, ILX. And that's because it was Alext I was arguing with, not Stet.)

hahahaha