2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

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i respect the nader's ideas on regulating the financial industries but dude is not a exactly an electoral role model by any means, kiss of death right there

yeah yeah gabb the party will unify, i kno

Nader will speak at my university tonight.

ask him what the differences among "politics," "bigotry" and "political bigotry" are.

Ask him what eating club he belonged to!

I was going to ask him if he reads "Bloom County."

please tell mr. nader that political freedom is not innate but rather enacted, then maybe if you could smack him with a rolled-up newspaper, that'd be fantastic

I refuse to lecture him sanctimoniously as he would do me.

ok skip to the newspaper bit then

I may ask him to try on this lovely new seat belt necklace I bought him.

Bring an mp3 player attached to a speaker with you and, when called upon, rickroll him.

^^ i lolled

Clever

poor sanctimonious elmo!

Also, take note that gabby refers to "us" as Democrats, unmistakably.

morbius, my inner citizen First Amendment voice says "fuck off"

but wait, I can hear it!

lol at Nader telling a reporter at my university newspaper, "I'm here to make trouble."

He is the Becky Lucas of American politics.

ouch

New Indiana poll is a bummer.

pack of fucking morons, the lot

Also a bummer: my inability to link properly. try this one.

Not a bummer at all:

The Associated Press has learned that Obama is picking up the endorsement of former Indiana Rep. Lee Hamilton, the top Democrat on the panel that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks, which could boost his national security standing.

"I begin by asking myself what kind of leadership the country needs at this juncture and I think, for me at least, the answer is that you want a candidate that will try to bring together a country that is very evenly divided, a country in which partisanship has been very sharp and to try to get a candidate who will create a new sense of national unity and will try to transcend the divisions within the country," Hamilton said.

Who can forget the revelatory investigation of the Sep. 11 attacks.

(Not a slam on Hamilton, suzy, but on the panel's remit)

Naw, slam Hamilton too -- the guy defines hack.

Dude I know it's purely symbolic, and also abt limitations of panel. Still makes me angry that close friend had to do 'terror-ready' surveys across US for govt at a cost of 6 mil - her findings were totally binned and she felt dept who commissioned her were wasting money on lip-service and there-there-now bullshit. It might be safe to extrapolate that she's not alone at the well-connected end of things. I'm sure she sees Obama as a totally necessary new broom.

mcclatchy goes deep into clinton country:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/32327.html

A couple blocks east, at Jimmy's Quick Lunch, Clinton's the favorite of many regulars.

"I like her backup man," said retired machinist Ronald Duser, referring to former President Bill Clinton. "And her family's from Scranton. She seems to be an honest person, just like my wife."

Of Obama, Duser said: "I'm not crazy about voting for a colored guy, but that's not why I don't support Obama. I'm not prejudiced. I just like Hillary."

A couple tables over, Jean Fetterman, a foster grandparent, said of Clinton: "Oh, I love her. She's a very intelligent person, and she has her husband who went through this."

She scoffs at the idea of voting for Obama: "I don't want to be a Muslim!" She looks dubious when told Obama is Christian. "Then why did he go see what's-his-name over in Iraq, that Lama?"

She isn't clear about whom she means. She may have seen a photo of Obama wearing traditional clothing during a visit to Africa. "I don't care what color he is, I don't care if he's pink," she said. "I don't think he's got the same education Hillary has, and he's so young. He's arrogant, too."

poll time

Shiiiiiiiiiiiit.

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/040208DailyUpdateGraph1_clob_dkww08.gif

people still say "colored"?

they think it's polite

A couple tables over, Jean Fetterman, a foster grandparent, said of Clinton: "Oh, I love her. She's a very intelligent person, and she has her husband who went through this."

She scoffs at the idea of voting for Obama: "I don't want to be a Muslim!" She looks dubious when told Obama is Christian. "Then why did he go see what's-his-name over in Iraq, that Lama?"

okay (a) what the fuck is wrong with this lady, (b) "that Lama"? omg tibet = iraq? and (c) what the hell is a "foster-grandparent"?

A foster grandparent is either some mean old hoser who takes in foster kids for the state funds it provides (and plus de funds if the child is on Ritalin or other meds) so she doesn't have to work, or a nice lady who wants to fill her empty nest in a good cause.

so basically, she is a post-menopausal foster-mom? i wasn't clear if she was that or if her daughter was a foster-mother or something.

old people be out of it

In the evolution of euphemisms for race "colored" was a fairly polite term in the 1940s and 1950s. As usual with euphemisms, it became identified with the racism it sought to evade.

When for a time in the 1980s and 1990s "people of color" became a fairly polite euphemism for race, it was a kind of milepost in the USA running out of wiggle room in cranking out new euphemisms.

"African-American" had better show some legs for the long run or we'll be harking back to "negro" before you can bat an eye. As for me, I favor "Abbysinian" as the next new term. Classy stuff.

if by 'classy' you mean 'fetishizing the exotic' then sure

Abyssinian, even!

hey how about 'nubian'? that's not loaded with outmoded connotations at all

ppl from idaho = abbottsinians

I love how the press has to go out of its way to avoid the implication that Hillary's remaining support is largely due to racist and/or ignorant people ("older whites"/"whites lacking a college education") like our dear foster grandparent quoted above.

dearabbysinians

I like that she equates voting for a candidate with converting to their religion.

hey, I don't wanna be a Methodist!

depends on what you mean by 'the press.' mcclatchy isn't shying away from making clinton's pennsylvania from looking stupid. and there was moderate pickup of those polls that showed that democrats who have negative impressions of obama also believe 'civil rights have gone too far' etc.

but yeah it fits into a pattern of media schizophrenia and just cowardice about race: racism still exists but there are no actual racists anywhere to be found

hey thats a good point!

JEAN M FETTERMAN Born 1932
320 MINE ST
HAZLETON, PA 18201 (570) 454-5494

JEAN M FETTERMAN Born May 1932
34 JAMES ST
HAZLETON, PA 18201 (570) 454-5494

JEAN M FETTERMAN Born 1932
618 LINCOLN ST
HAZLETON, PA 18201 (570) 454-5494

Tell her "The Lama" sent you.