haha Dr. Morbius you should e-mail John Dean, tell him you found the liberal authoritarians finally, they're no longer a theory.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 23 October 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)
were they ever just a theory?
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)
I think they're a whole corner of that ideology graph thingy, actuellement.
― Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)
I think that well-known ideology graph thing (http://www.politicalcompass.org/index) is pretty clearly a libertarian indoctrination tool. There's a whole body of literature surrounding the concept of authoritarianism, and as far as I know to align libertarianism as its polar opposite strongly misrepresents authoritarianism.
― Dan I., Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)
don't confuse Political Compass for the World's Smallest Political Quiz. The former makes conservatives foam at the mouth because it (generally) pegs them as authoritarians, and libertarians foam because its emphasis on value questions highlights their proximity to conservatives.
― sad man in him room (milo z), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:26 (seventeen years ago)
(but the idea of a 2-axis or 3-axis ideology guide is generally pretty stupid as a rule)
― sad man in him room (milo z), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:27 (seventeen years ago)
ah, okay, thanks!
― Dan I., Friday, 24 October 2008 02:09 (seventeen years ago)
to align libertarianism as its polar opposite strongly misrepresents authoritarianism
Who did this? we're talking about LIBERAL authoritarians. the Daleys, Humphrey, all the Dem senators not named Feingold, etc.
You just KNOW those two Obama Youth robots quoted on HuffPost are going to cluck their tongues at anyone who protests President Bam governing (and bombing) from the "center." "He has to do this to get re-elected!"
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 13:19 (seventeen years ago)
you are truly a seer
― joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:37 (seventeen years ago)
despite yr condescension i think most of us are pretty aware around these parts that obama will not be ushering in a totally post-partisan age. yes, people will be there to cheerlead whatever he does. i dont see why u think thats news to anyone.
― joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:38 (seventeen years ago)
uh, we are IN a postpartisan age, that's the problem.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)
wtf are you talking about never mind
― joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:51 (seventeen years ago)
morbs/feingold 08
― BIG HOOS was a communisteen orgadriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:54 (seventeen years ago)
but morbs like 48.5% of this country maintains a polar opposite view than you (and the other 48.5% or so) on practically every single issue there is. how do you propose anything ever getting done? short of the blue coastal states seceding from Jesusland?
p.s. i think it's a little early to take Barry to task for countries he hasn't bombed yet.
― flyover statesman (will), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:54 (seventeen years ago)
he's way smarter, more likable, and likely more decent than we've had in decades. give him a shot.
― flyover statesman (will), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:56 (seventeen years ago)
^^^ otm
Wanting the moon is understandable, but is no reason to turn down the offer of a few genuine moon rocks.
― Aimless, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)
I am giving him a shot. But I think liberal reforms have been deemed impractical by the entire ruling class since at least 1980. Time will tell if the New Depression shifts the spectrum.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=populism_without_pitchforks
He's apparently a "communitarian populist!" Thanks, intellectually lazy "progressive" JACKASS. Perhaps you would consider investing in a DICTIONARY before you become a WRITER.
"Communitarian Populism!!" You know, how Hitler rolled!! Jesus Christ. Obama's greatest flaw really is having supporters like these.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 October 2008 15:46 (seventeen years ago)
and yes I already feel guilty for linking that piece and possibly causing other people to try and read it
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 October 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)
no its cool i saw the populism without pitchforks in the url before i clicked
― some sort of sweetpea New Deal (Lamp), Sunday, 26 October 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)
Him being the antichrist could be a problem, apparently.
http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/images/Picture%205-166.jpg
(lol)
― StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:27 (seventeen years ago)
Topeka KS 66604
― imperial management trainee (latebloomer), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)
LOL at one medieval thought accusing something incredibly dense like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arminianism of being satanistic.
― StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)
Amen.
― ℵℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜ℘! (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)
amen xp!
― 8 HOOS Dog (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)
I'll amen if the screed writer can learn to spell 'worshipped'. HAHA.
― Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)
the most impressively irritating thing in the world is the font used by Phelps' propaganda posters
― restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:25 (seventeen years ago)
i like obama a lot but some of his supporters' eagerness to justify daleyism as "just politics" or "just what you gotta do to get elected" is seriously disturbing.
― J.D., Monday, 27 October 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)
I like that the Westboro thing is headed as a news release. Front page of the next day's New York Times: "BARACK OBAMA IS ANTICHRIST."
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 27 October 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)
J.D. what "daleyism" are you referring to?
― Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 27 October 2008 03:14 (seventeen years ago)
mixing up Fred Sanford & George Jefferson
― ban or astroban? (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:29 (seventeen years ago)
too much of a fuckin badass
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:30 (seventeen years ago)
overweeningly handsome
overly unflappable
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:31 (seventeen years ago)
embarrassingly thoughtful
skinny legs
― Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)
ballhog
― my other son is a zamboni (gbx), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)
insufficiently cruel
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:33 (seventeen years ago)
digustingly considerate
disappointingly pragmatic
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)
wait, wtf @ "communitarian" being a bad word? That's a totally common category in contemporary political philosophy, used for those who see communities of individuals rather than isolated individuals as politically central. Or did I miss some kind of joke, with the Hitler references and all?
― Euler, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)
yep, no one deifying him on ILX.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)
it's called glee, morbius
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:35 (seventeen years ago)
pure, unadulterated sheer fucking glee
morbs tomorrow i will toast to your unrivaled principle and then get drunk
on wednesday i will be hung over
on thursday and thereafter it will be l-r: obama, BIG HOOShttp://nynerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/14-cat-meets-eagle.JPG
― HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:14 (seventeen years ago)
poor kitty gonna get raped
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:15 (seventeen years ago)
for "The Wire" multitudes:
Obama as Tommy Carcetti
Obama’s victory is consequently a watershed in American politics, and it should be enthusiastically celebrated for that reason alone....The grim reality, however, is that Obama (like Carcetti) will spend his first term campaigning for his second term, a campaign he actually began in his acceptance speech in Chicago on election night... If he wins a second term, he’ll spend it shoring up the prospects of both the Democrats in Congress and his aspiring Democratic successor to the throne--again, by cultivating the “center.”
Obama will undoubtedly be better than Bush was and better than McCain would have been, and the differences matter. But a realistic assessment of the scope of those differences is imperative. Without it, people who really care about changing this country’s direction will end up counting on one man, Obama, instead of on themselves to bring about the change we need. Those people will inevitably be disappointed.
...All told, the outlook for a new day in America is poor. The bottom line is this: When you think Barack Obama, think Tommy Carcetti. He probably has a good heart, but he is confronting a vast array of institutional forces aimed at preventing him or anyone else in power from doing the right thing. To have any chance of getting the results we want out of his administration, we cannot just sit back and expect him to work his magic. We must organize, agitate, and pursue independent initiatives (like ballot measures) to get what we want (like single-payer healthcare) at the state level. And we must carefully scrutinize Obama’s every move and harass and harangue him relentlessly just as if he were John McCain or George Bush. From the point of view of every American left of center, the principal advantage of Obama over McCain is that it is at least possible that he will listen to us. We cannot let that advantage go to waste.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:40 (seventeen years ago)
what are barack obama's flaws? [Started by and what in April 2008, last updated Thursday, November 6, 2008 11:40 AM by Dr Morbius on I Love Everything] 17 new answers
― gabbneb, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)
And we must carefully scrutinize Obama’s every move and harass and harangue him relentlessly just as if he were John McCain or George Bush. From the point of view of every American left of center, the principal advantage of Obama over McCain is that it is at least possible that he will listen to us. We cannot let that advantage our shitty blogs go to waste.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)
Greenwald's on it already on his shitty left wing blog.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:47 (seventeen years ago)