what are barack obama's flaws?

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"the new Dem Machine, which will carry us all forward into an Age of Mutuality."

Somewhere, Huxley laughs?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

xpost to suzy: or graft, bribery, extortion, racism, waste, arrogant flaunting of all of the above, and on, and on, and on...

Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse (kenan), Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

This is a book that person, however well-meaning, has obviously not read.

Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse (kenan), Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

The other day my mom started foaming about La Machine Chicago - and tying O to same - based on living there for one year only. Try to argue with her and she's all OH YEAH, I BEEN TO HYDE PARK - IN '67.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 23 October 2008 16:09 (seventeen years ago)

I think she should have stuck around for 1968.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_WriF8m2mVt0/SBe9zYQnloI/AAAAAAAABs8/4xsk-CjVrQo/s400/David+Douglas+Duncan--Dem+Con+68.jpg

Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse (kenan), Thursday, 23 October 2008 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

(What makes that photo is the banner in the distance reading "HELLO DEMOCRATS!")

Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse (kenan), Thursday, 23 October 2008 16:36 (seventeen years ago)

It's possible that he's a little TOO awesome ...

polyphonic, Thursday, 23 October 2008 17:22 (seventeen years ago)

haha Dr. Morbius you should e-mail John Dean, tell him you found the liberal authoritarians finally, they're no longer a theory.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 23 October 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

were they ever just a theory?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)

I think they're a whole corner of that ideology graph thingy, actuellement.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

I think that well-known ideology graph thing (http://www.politicalcompass.org/index) is pretty clearly a libertarian indoctrination tool.
There's a whole body of literature surrounding the concept of authoritarianism, and as far as I know to align libertarianism as its polar opposite strongly misrepresents authoritarianism.

Dan I., Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

don't confuse Political Compass for the World's Smallest Political Quiz. The former makes conservatives foam at the mouth because it (generally) pegs them as authoritarians, and libertarians foam because its emphasis on value questions highlights their proximity to conservatives.

sad man in him room (milo z), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:26 (seventeen years ago)

(but the idea of a 2-axis or 3-axis ideology guide is generally pretty stupid as a rule)

sad man in him room (milo z), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:27 (seventeen years ago)

ah, okay, thanks!

Dan I., Friday, 24 October 2008 02:09 (seventeen years ago)

to align libertarianism as its polar opposite strongly misrepresents authoritarianism

Who did this? we're talking about LIBERAL authoritarians. the Daleys, Humphrey, all the Dem senators not named Feingold, etc.

You just KNOW those two Obama Youth robots quoted on HuffPost are going to cluck their tongues at anyone who protests President Bam governing (and bombing) from the "center." "He has to do this to get re-elected!"

Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 13:19 (seventeen years ago)

you are truly a seer

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:37 (seventeen years ago)

despite yr condescension i think most of us are pretty aware around these parts that obama will not be ushering in a totally post-partisan age. yes, people will be there to cheerlead whatever he does. i dont see why u think thats news to anyone.

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

uh, we are IN a postpartisan age, that's the problem.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)

wtf are you talking about never mind

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:51 (seventeen years ago)

morbs/feingold 08

BIG HOOS was a communisteen orgadriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

but morbs like 48.5% of this country maintains a polar opposite view than you (and the other 48.5% or so) on practically every single issue there is. how do you propose anything ever getting done? short of the blue coastal states seceding from Jesusland?

p.s. i think it's a little early to take Barry to task for countries he hasn't bombed yet.

flyover statesman (will), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

he's way smarter, more likable, and likely more decent than we've had in decades. give him a shot.

flyover statesman (will), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:56 (seventeen years ago)

^^^ otm

Wanting the moon is understandable, but is no reason to turn down the offer of a few genuine moon rocks.

Aimless, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

I am giving him a shot. But I think liberal reforms have been deemed impractical by the entire ruling class since at least 1980. Time will tell if the New Depression shifts the spectrum.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=populism_without_pitchforks

He's apparently a "communitarian populist!" Thanks, intellectually lazy "progressive" JACKASS. Perhaps you would consider investing in a DICTIONARY before you become a WRITER.

"Communitarian Populism!!" You know, how Hitler rolled!! Jesus Christ. Obama's greatest flaw really is having supporters like these.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 October 2008 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

and yes I already feel guilty for linking that piece and possibly causing other people to try and read it

El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 October 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

no its cool i saw the populism without pitchforks in the url before i clicked

some sort of sweetpea New Deal (Lamp), Sunday, 26 October 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

Him being the antichrist could be a problem, apparently.

http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/images/Picture%205-166.jpg

(lol)

StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:27 (seventeen years ago)

Topeka KS 66604

imperial management trainee (latebloomer), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)

LOL at one medieval thought accusing something incredibly dense like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arminianism of being satanistic.

StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)

Amen.

ℵℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜ℘! (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

amen xp!

8 HOOS Dog (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

I'll amen if the screed writer can learn to spell 'worshipped'. HAHA.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

the most impressively irritating thing in the world is the font used by Phelps' propaganda posters

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

i like obama a lot but some of his supporters' eagerness to justify daleyism as "just politics" or "just what you gotta do to get elected" is seriously disturbing.

J.D., Monday, 27 October 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

I like that the Westboro thing is headed as a news release. Front page of the next day's New York Times: "BARACK OBAMA IS ANTICHRIST."

Merdeyeux, Monday, 27 October 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

J.D. what "daleyism" are you referring to?

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 27 October 2008 03:14 (seventeen years ago)

mixing up Fred Sanford & George Jefferson

ban or astroban? (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:29 (seventeen years ago)

too much of a fuckin badass

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:30 (seventeen years ago)

overweeningly handsome

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:30 (seventeen years ago)

overly unflappable

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

embarrassingly thoughtful

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

skinny legs

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)

ballhog

my other son is a zamboni (gbx), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)

insufficiently cruel

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

digustingly considerate

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

disappointingly pragmatic

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)

wait, wtf @ "communitarian" being a bad word? That's a totally common category in contemporary political philosophy, used for those who see communities of individuals rather than isolated individuals as politically central. Or did I miss some kind of joke, with the Hitler references and all?

Euler, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)

yep, no one deifying him on ILX.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)

it's called glee, morbius

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:35 (seventeen years ago)


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