I'm getting close to the time when I'll have to be applying to funding bodies for PhD monies. In the humanities. Lols. I am considering it very unlikely, but I really don't know what I'll do if I don't get anything, since the "take three years off to work full-time and save up enough to be able to study part-time, while working to pay the bills, over, ooh, seven years?" option sounds... less than ideal. Ayayayay.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Friday, 8 January 2010 01:40 (sixteen years ago)
Applying for grad school is expensive if you went to four universities. (Total cost of sending these four transcripts = $55, Boise State charging $15 extra if I want them to mail instead of fax.) (Also did not help that my mom lost my childhood immunization records & had to get MMR titers for $110 to prove to U. of Arizona that my parents weren't crazy in the '80s altho they are forgetful now.)
― girl moves (Abbott), Friday, 8 January 2010 02:09 (sixteen years ago)
not to mention application fees and gres. some people take the gre multiple times but damn, that's $120 (or was it $140? don't remember!) a pop! are you doing applications now abbott?
― Maria, Friday, 8 January 2010 03:19 (sixteen years ago)
gre hee hee
― caek, Friday, 8 January 2010 03:26 (sixteen years ago)
GRE was $150 (plus the $40 taxi ride there & back to the weird-ass non-bus-route strip- mall the place was in). I am doing apps right now & so is my husband + sick dog = defs emptying the pantry of pasta type of month.
― girl moves (Abbott), Friday, 8 January 2010 04:28 (sixteen years ago)
geez, they've raised the price again. best of luck to you and your husband (and your dog ;)
― Maria, Friday, 8 January 2010 14:21 (sixteen years ago)
Oh shit man this is all worth it bcz if nothing else I got to see this letter one of my faves people, a dude who I just respect & love so much, wrote for me. The kind of praise that will sustain you for a few years. I'm like almost in tears here.
― girl moves (Abbott), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:00 (sixteen years ago)
:D
― into the young coconuts (gbx), Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:40 (sixteen years ago)
haha i have trouble reading those letters! had a rec written weeks ago and the guy attached the letter to an email to me and i still haven't read it. even though i know it's very good.
― jortin shartgent (harbl), Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:44 (sixteen years ago)
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/files/2010/01/educationalattainment.png
― max, Monday, 11 January 2010 15:27 (sixteen years ago)
fml
― the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:28 (sixteen years ago)
gonna fucken treasure my half-percent
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:29 (sixteen years ago)
max, i'm guesing that factors in loss of earnings from loan payments? or is that the type of work taken with advanced degrees forgoes income from more profitable jobs elsewhere?
― uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:36 (sixteen years ago)
finding it hard to credit those as absolute figures, certainly.
― Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:39 (sixteen years ago)
i think they mean a person with a doctoral degree made 10% more in 1999 than in 2008, it's not decline in the same individual's earnings. right?
― harbl, Monday, 11 January 2010 15:40 (sixteen years ago)
ok, got you.
― Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:40 (sixteen years ago)
so in real income terms the higher qualifications are becoming less of a relative advantage over time?
― Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:41 (sixteen years ago)
oic now
― uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:45 (sixteen years ago)
I take it that the meaning of that chart hinges on what "real" means in "real mean earnings".
― Euler, Monday, 11 January 2010 15:45 (sixteen years ago)
earnings are real mean lately ; )
― harbl, Monday, 11 January 2010 15:46 (sixteen years ago)
that is a microsoft graphs-authored chart i found on a blog post and thought might validate my "decision" to not apply to grad school
― max, Monday, 11 January 2010 15:47 (sixteen years ago)
man I'll tell you though that when the doctoral life is good, it's very very good.
― Euler, Monday, 11 January 2010 15:47 (sixteen years ago)
well it would be more helpful to look at the mean earnings of people with grad degrees over bachelors but since i think u prob want some liberal arts degree maybe it would be just too depressing :/
― harbl, Monday, 11 January 2010 15:48 (sixteen years ago)
oh wow ppl are making relatively less now than ten years ago when the economy wasn't in the shitter
― everybody's into weirdness right now (gbx), Monday, 11 January 2010 16:05 (sixteen years ago)
well people with bachelor's degrees and master's degrees are making relatively more..........
― harbl, Monday, 11 January 2010 16:07 (sixteen years ago)
"relatively more" lol
― harbl, Monday, 11 January 2010 16:08 (sixteen years ago)
i mean just sayin that plotting the change in earnings isn't as useful for grad school or no grad school decision making as, say:
difference in earnings between levels of educational accomplishment v. difference in cost (both $$/time) for achieving levels of education
― everybody's into weirdness right now (gbx), Monday, 11 January 2010 16:16 (sixteen years ago)
and that only holds water if you're making your educational decisions based on earning potential, which anyone considering an advanced degree in the humanities likely isn't doing
― everybody's into weirdness right now (gbx), Monday, 11 January 2010 16:17 (sixteen years ago)
i make all decisions based on my earning potential
― max, Monday, 11 January 2010 16:17 (sixteen years ago)
no, you should do it for the sweet robes:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/05/14/us/18obama2blog.jpg
from my alma mater (I didn't buy the robes b/c lol @ $2,000 but my mom said she would buy them (before she knew the cost); one day I'll take her up on it).
― Euler, Monday, 11 January 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)
i thought the school you teach at pays for those when you get tenure, guess it depends on the school
― harbl, Monday, 11 January 2010 16:22 (sixteen years ago)
Bear in mind the period encapsulates a time where there has been an expansion in the number of advanced degrees that lead to less lucrative outcomes. (MFAs, english literature phds etc.). There's also be a massive expansion in MBAs at the lower end in the spectrum.
but at the end of the day, greater supply means prices will fall.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 11 January 2010 16:23 (sixteen years ago)
They rent them for you if you want to wear them at graduation or convocation, though you still have to pay a bit each time. At least it's been that way at the two places I've taught since grad school.
― Euler, Monday, 11 January 2010 16:24 (sixteen years ago)
OKAY:
so i get back from a little relaxation, did a bit of writing (project specific) over the period...
and i found out that A ROUGH DRAFT OF MY THESIS IS DUE TO MY COMMITTEE TODAY.
and i though i had two more weeks.
wtf, thanks for being explicit with deadlines, shit-ass janky grad school.
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:29 (sixteen years ago)
*thought
dude! can u swing it?
― everybody's into weirdness right now (gbx), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:36 (sixteen years ago)
i mean, luckily, this is only the 'preliminary' meeting in two weeks. i'm supposed to have approximately 60 pages by may 1st. right now, i probably have half of that? of clean and polished stuff. since i believe i'm able to add more, or at least give explanation to why my thesis is so thin, i should be okay.
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:42 (sixteen years ago)
still, i'm like scrambling through notebooks, going through my illustrator archives (some of the stuff is more concrete poetry), and racking my brain like wo right now.
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)
wait what do you need by today?
― everybody's into weirdness right now (gbx), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:44 (sixteen years ago)
well i'd hope that if nobody told you, the deadline isn't important to them either...guess that depends on other people being decent and not flakes though.
― Maria, Monday, 11 January 2010 22:51 (sixteen years ago)
i need a rough draft of the thesis. which can mean 'really rough.' but in the next two weeks, the whole thing is going to change. so i'm sort of like, "uhhhh, why do i need this to be done now?" especially since my committee is made up of people whose lives are so busy that they probably won't really do much but skim it until the final review, which is in the last week of april.
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:53 (sixteen years ago)
that said, my thesis committee consists of three heavy hitters whose work and lives i respect a lot, and i don't want them to think i'm some slacker.
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:54 (sixteen years ago)
that seems annoyingly administrative. good luck.
― Maria, Monday, 11 January 2010 22:55 (sixteen years ago)
Man this applying to grad school is pretty tough... I'm worried what it will be like when I'm actually in it.
― As your Dentist I recommend smoking: (Viceroy), Monday, 11 January 2010 23:40 (sixteen years ago)
less stressful, imo! then you just get to start applying for grants.
― Maria, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 00:41 (sixteen years ago)
my problem at the moment is that i have so much going on outside of my program that it's difficult to focus on what i need to be doing. on top of the thesis (which is lol poetry, yeah):
- i'm writing these fake 'translations' of an invented japanese gay man for this anthology.- i'm acting in a joe brainard play that goes up on the 22nd.- i'm getting ready for a deejay gig that is also on the 22nd.- i'm writing actively for XLR8R magazine, which involves insane emailing and constant connectedness.- i'm writing my own (somehow very popular again) music blog.
i ain't giving shit up for no motherfucking thesis, either, except for nights of drunken debauchery, which is probably best for my hurting liver anyway.
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 01:26 (sixteen years ago)
FWIW, University of Windsor pays sessionals $5500/course (a bit low for Ontario) and you do get (good) benefits after teaching for a year. A full-time course load is a shitload of work but it does afford a reasonable living. It's not at all secure (and I'm not f/t in my second year here) but it is also a long way from being "below minimum wage".
― Sundar, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 15:10 (sixteen years ago)
just finished laying out the rough draft. now to do a SHITLOAD of photocopying, after a shower and a smoke.
i am getting wasted tonight, btw.
― arch-enemy Gay Cowboy Monster (the table is the table), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 21:01 (sixteen years ago)
congrats!
http://www.polperro.co.uk/FireworksAnimated.gif
― caek, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 08:20 (sixteen years ago)
indeed, congrats!
― Maria, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:47 (sixteen years ago)