rolling nutrition nazis 2010

ezekiel has wheat in it. it's a sprouted grain bread, which is better than a refined flour but nazis do not approve of wheat/bread at all afaik.

they make a wheat-free one, it's just a brand name

oh i have not seen that!

cheese is fine on a mountain

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i don't know if it's sprouted though if that's what you were talking about, i just think i've seen it

um, that one has wheat! and it is sprouted! i've had it before.
maybe they have a wheat free variety, you are saying?

right, not that one. another one.

i have some rice almond bread in my freezer. it is kinda shit.

yeah i used to eat only sprouted bread, but i can't really afford it right now. its good if you toast it! the ezekiel brand (forget the name) makes wheat free bread, but its not sprouted and prob not as good for you imo. it doesn't taste like bread at all its sweat and sort of cake like?

also manna bread is awesome -> http://fitnessnyc.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/cinnanmon_date_manna_bread_productlarge.gif

meant "sweet" not sweat

i think sprouted bread is really good too. it has a lot more texture.

you can eat wheat bread if youve eaten all your fruits/veges/nuts/proteins and still need calories/carbs for some reason

i used to like the sprouted bread toasted!
but now i don't even really think about bread at all.
cad, it's better to eat something wholer than bread if you're looking for more carbs imo.
like a potato. nom.

I've been avoiding the nightshades per previous thread, sore knees much improved, but came home to find stewed tomatoes and beans per chili. Heard the tomatoes are OK if cooked, just bad for inflammation if raw. Opinions?

Ps thanks harbl for the bread info will check this thing out. WF has the Ezekiel. I get their Berlin Bakery sprouted spelt bread, ingredients spelt, water, honey (ugh), yeast. sea salt. No wheat. From WF for those who must have bread. Doesn't keep though, no preservatives. Cutty I only eat two thin slices every 3 days or so, jeez.

spelt is wheat!

it's just spelt different.

*rimshot*

ha it's not like i'm a bread expert

ha ha. Thanks for making me check. Google "spelt + wheat" provides conflicting info, check it. I love this thread v v much.

back to the unnecessary tasty butter replacements from previous NN thread- EarthBalance (soy-free) > Smart Balance for cooking IMO. Harder to find though. Agreed that no butter replacements is best of all.

i've always taken a daily vitamin, centrum...but someone told me that centrum type vitamins don't really do anything for you and are a waste of money...basically said you need to buy really expensive vitamins..

true/false?

― jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, January 6, 2010 8:39 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I think no vitamin supplement will be a replacement for eating lots of fruits and veggies in a day. the only vitamin supplements you might need, I think, are B12 if you're vegan and vitamin D if you live in a place without a lot of sunshine. everything else you can pretty much get by getting enough servings of fruits/veggies a day

you can eat wheat bread if youve eaten all your fruits/veges/nuts/proteins and still need calories/carbs for some reason

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, January 6, 2010 1:44 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

the question for me isn't really whether it's good for me, but whether it's ok to use as a peanut/almond butter delivery device.

I take 15 vitamins and slam protein bars (which might be a whole other NN issue), so I'm not really looking for nutrition from my bread, just a lack of harm.

just eat nut butter off the spoon in that case!

almond butter on apple slices

guys, I'm never giving up bread. just made some excellent broth and the dipping is beautiful.

hot broth + bread + constant snow = a lifetime of happiness

thanks for reading,

brownie

I dunno if this was covered in the other thread, but has anyone read Paleo for Athletes? I'm interested cos I want to drop a couple of kilos to get into a lighter weight class but I wonder if it's gonna tell me anything apart from 'low carbs, high protein' which I pretty much do anyway.

CUTTY HAS

that was pretty much the impetus for the og thread, sandy!

I used to follow the party line and be down on bread/wheat. but it seems gluten is a pretty good protein (provided you're not sensitive to it) and it's a good source of low-GI carbs (if you're getting whole grain &c &c). and it's pretty filling. missing the days of where I could just chow down on bread and cheese though ;=;

my big nn move of 2010 is smoothies. bought a personal sized blender (400ml max!) and have been making strawberry kiwi banana w/ flax seeds and almond milk smoothies daily. oh and blueberry banana ones too. depends on what I can get at the wet market

there is no way to cook a potato that i love nearly as much as a piece of fresh hot bread. especially as a vehicle for homemade jam. on the other hand i am now so picky about bread that i probably won't eat it if it's storebought, so that's a limiting factor.

i have some food missions for jan 2010: find way to cook green beans & collards so they taste almost as robust as when cooked in pork fat without actually cooking in pork fat; learn to cook broccoli and bok choy decently; perfect indian spice combination for mashed/baked sweet potatoes; and learn to use new hand-me-down slow cooker for something other than beans (although i am also excited about beans).

i was just pondering collards today! (and how to cook them in a manner that would make them taste as good as southern collards, which are <3)

green beans in pork fat i have never had. i like them blanched or very lightly steamed.

green beans in pork fat with little bits of bacon are pretty amazing. i'm thinking maybe if i tried them with onion and a little vegetable or chicken broth it might be a step in the right direction.

try liquid smoke

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Oh right, question for Cutty then - that book seems like it's mainly for endurance athletes, is that right? Wondering if it would be useful for a wrestler with a pretty busy training schedule + need to get stronger but not bigger.

oh man, my night lunch at the observatory: tuna salad sandwich, rice krispie bar and packet of cheetos.

6 or 7 inches of snow outside. What are good 'inside' exercises a person can do just for a day?

It's not inside, but shovelling snow is about your best bet.

Just don't forget to stretch/warm up before hand.

Re: "conspicuously processed sugar" upthread, I was trying to indicate that I didn't eat any candy, sodas, coworker-supplied xmas cookies (still, people?), and omitted sugar from my coffee. There may have been processed compoments of the sandwich fron the workplace cafeteria that contained sugar, but I have no idea.

Okay, just looked and there is sugar in Sriracha, about which I'm indifferent for now. Mostlyjust interested in eliminating sweets/deserts.

Oh right, question for Cutty then - that book seems like it's mainly for endurance athletes, is that right? Wondering if it would be useful for a wrestler with a pretty busy training schedule + need to get stronger but not bigger.

that is correct. this guy seems to be compiling a book/info for the weightlifters: http://robbwolf.com/

Is coconut milk horrible? I've used it twice now in a green curry recipe, but it seems to have a million calories. The recipe called for light coconut milk, but my supermarket only has the Goya version. Next time I'll check the health food store.

yes it is horrible

coconut water is good

why horrible? same fat as almond milk, 10 more calories, is it the saturated fat: http://www.turtlemountain.com/images/product_images/Coconut_Bev_Unsweetened.jpg

that's coconut milk "beverage"

yeah i know i just wanted to give it a plug

b-b-b-but that's not what she is talking about

I went OFF my NN kick, I meant to say.

Not completely, but I indulged in some truffle aioli fries one too many times :(

Tonight I am preparing my first meal in the OMG VITA-MIX.

Dunno if it fully qualifies for NN but it involves roasted butternut squash and sweet potato, half an orange, some coconut milk, and red curry paste. Oh and I can chuck in some cilantro, too.

But hey VITA-MIX!

sounds pretty NN to me!

how much did that V-Mix set you back?
Arent they like 400 bucks? I sooooo want one but I am settling for a new Kitchenaid for x-mas.

Russian kale for dinner last night -nomnomnom

Quincie, I too am cooking with butternut squash and sweet potato tonight! But no Vitamix. Still, nice that DC will be fragrant with squash-like cookery.

OK so I didn't really thin out my mixture to soup consistency so what I ate was pretty much butternut squash sweet potato curry baby food but it was damn good!

Mandy the VM was like o_O expensive even when scored at discount on ebay, but I had really mulled over it for a while and decided to go for it. I do not spend much on music or clothes or going out, etc., but splurge on big-ticket cooking items. Love my Kitchenaid, and I'm sure you will, too!

Tomorrow a.m. I am going to chuck some celery and carrot and pineapple and ice in the machine and see what happens. That's pretty damn NN iirc.

any thoughts on oat milk instead of almond?

super sugary iirc

went full nazi for nov to dec and combined it w/gym, just so I could ~indulge~ a bit over the holibags

fully intend to get back on the bike and go full nazi again in '11 tho

La lechera was asking many posts back about nutritional label makers:

http://www.shopncook.com/nutritionFactsLabel.html

Ugh wrong thread

i saw it!
it looks like it makes a label if you have and input all of the nutritional info
what i would like is a label generator into which i can plug a homemade recipe and it will tell me what the breakdown of nutrients is. could such a thing exist?

Yes! It's a program you buy from that site for 200 bucks

It has a free 45 day trial

http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-calculator.asp