South Park: Classic or Dud?

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The only thing I ever enjoyed about Ren & Stimpy was the line "It's better than bad, it's good!" The artwork was hideous (whereas SP is total eye candy).

the art wasn't pretty, but the animation was a hell of a lot more expressive (and funny) than SP's bland computerized cut-outs. i agree that the first season was the only good one, but that's because nickelodeon fired john kricfalusi and replaced him with ~~slugs corporate dolts who didn't understand cartoons. it'd be like saying "roadrunner cartoons sucked because they weren't any good when chuck jones wasn't making them anymore."~~

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 April 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Um.
― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Goddammit. Better?
― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

No, that's it.

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I stopped watching regularly ages ago, because it got tiresome, particularly the "fight a big movie monster" story template they were always relying on. But still whenever I flick past it there's something funny being said. I'm just tired of the voices, I think (and people talking in the voices in real life. Please stop).

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

South Park's limited animation style (which they occasionally show they're not limited to: see the LoTR episode or perhaps the recent "playing with weapons" one) is actually more expressive because of its limited vocabulary. It's, you know, it's almost like an Ozu movie or something.

The Passion episode wasn't that good -- I was expecting more.

AKM, they don't use that schtick very often these days (compared to the first few seasons).

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you say Ozu? Holy shit.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Playing with weapons was awesome -- it just seemed so right in reg. to the way that kids see themselves while playing.

Terrace and Phillip are Beavis and Butthead, no?

― ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott is better than Terrance and Phillip -- "I'm giving you cancer -- WITH MY MIND!".

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

playing with weapons was excellent.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, I now think Butters is one of the greatest characters ever conceived for television.

Maybe, but his voice is one of my all-time favorites. I giggle even if he doesn't actually say anything funny. The sound of him morosely barking is etched into my brain.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, the new episode was nice! But it was probably better if you have been following the show -- my favorite part was the new twist on "how can we torture Butters".

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

also, somewhere, Trey & Matt said that Butters is the nickname for their animation producer. They love Butters.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Butters reminds me of myself.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"That's me!"

― Butters (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Butters is fantastic, but I hope that, after all they've done to him in the last few episodes, they leave him alone for a bit. More Tweak!

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Friday, 9 April 2004 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the show has actually gotten stronger as it has gone on... they do a great job of toying with all of the media-generated temporary hysterias of american life. that being said, i think the funniest moment of the show was during the jesus/santa cabaret scene in the "mr hankey's christmas classics" episode when santa starts singing "rio" by duran duran. classic.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 9 April 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

please don't leave out eggyolkio.
Sorry. Never saw that one.

The Passion episode wasn't that good -- I was expecting more.
I give Trey and Matt credit for coming out and courageously saying what needed to be said about The Passion: "This isn't entertainment. It's a snuff film."
Never were truer words spoken.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Saturday, 10 April 2004 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Sure. I mean, they were written in my local weekly months before they got around to saying it, but they do admittedly have a slightly larger audience.

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Saturday, 10 April 2004 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG YOU JUST GOT GOTHSERVED WTF

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 10 April 2004 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

That was my favorite thing! And the goth dancing was all too accurate.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

they should have included the 'clawing the cobwebs away' and 'reaching out of the grave' variants.

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The trick is to always look like you are dancing alone in your suffering, no matter how many people you are with.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dancing isn't something you do in public -- you do it alone at 3 am in your bedroom!"

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

It's my day off, and I'm watching You Got Served during lunch purely because of the South Park episode.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

This sounds like a fine reason!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Now its on.

― Spinktor, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

blood orgy! blood orgy!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 December 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

That was fantastic.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 December 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, it's amazing how much funnier the You Got Served episode is on repeated viewings.

Also, BLOOD ORGY!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 December 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

That Woodland Critters episode almost made my head explode. I think the show's as funny as it's ever been. And it's in the zone now where the Simpsons was after 4 or 5 years, where the writing is still sharp and the ideas are still pretty fresh, but it's been absorbed into the culture enough that nobody's really paying much attention to it anymore -- which allows them to kind of fly below the radar in plain sight, and get away with things they couldn't have in the first few seasons.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 27 December 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

It's my day off, and I'm watching You Got Served during lunch purely because of the South Park episode.

haha omg mr teeny just tivo'd this movie!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 December 2004 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to say occasionally classic, but usually dud.

The Christian Rock episode was one of the funniest things I've ever seen ("I Might Be Born Again, But I Wasn't Born Again Yesterday")

― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 27 December 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

blood orgy!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 December 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, blood orgy!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 27 December 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

I only just saw the Christmas special!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 19 February 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

So, allow me to say: "Without the mountain lion around, the Lady Porcupiney can give birth to the Antichrist!"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 19 February 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

The hippie episode wasn't too good.

― Chris Michaels, Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you see the latest one? It wasn't a very good episode at all, and it included actual not-animated blood-riddled sex-change operation footage.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

limited skills, unflaggingly assholish/contrarian POV, confusion of "offensive" w/funny = crappily made, occasionally amusing lowbrow cartoon. The movie was good. The show gets pretty tiresome.

Also fuck them for running a non-union shop.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

they are definitely assholes, and probably should be shot, but sometimes it's funny.

non-union shop?

― the hitmanizer, Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

virtually every animation studio/film studio is a union shop, and with good reason.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

the last ones i saw were the one with Ben Affleck and the couple with the buttocks on their faces, followed by the one where Mr Garrison invents the gyroscope

ABSOLUTELY DISTURBINGLY BRILLIANT/BRILLIANTLY DISTURBING

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the hippie episode was pretty ROFL-worthy, but that may be because I lived in a 'hippie' house in the Bay Area in college and it brought back a lot of pleasant memories.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh, I don't know. The fact that they didn't explain it as some Cartman power-fantasy was kind of interesting, but most it seemed shallow.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The movie SUCKED. Musicals suck, esp comedic ones.

― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

nah, musicals are awesome (when done well)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The hippie one sucked (except for Chef) but Mr. Garrison's surgery was mind-meltingly gruesome in a great way. Not particularly funny, but awesome. Also, the follow-up plastic surgery was hilarious.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The surgery episode was just to set up the eventual return of Lemmywinks down the line though, surely?

"Awesome-O" may be one of the five best TV episodes ever.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

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