Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

It's been a funny old series. I really didn't enjoy Silence in the Library and I thought Midnight was intolerably dire, but what a way to end the series! It has everything -I am so flippin' excited about Saturday.

The regen scene is troubling though - I agree that Tennent regenerating into Tennant is jumping the shark, but I guess that will happen somehow. A temporary regen into someone else (surely not Eccleston, yet who?) is most likely.

I've just been to the BBC and the rumor there is:

Fooled yah!

bah that was meant to be an amusing joke with lots of lines between the first and last. Damned white space stripping.

well, not that amusing.

In other BBC news I just passed by Jeremy Clarkson. He was complaining about the number of smoothies one can buy within a 5-minute radius of his office.

Too many? Too few?

TOO MANY - WAAAAAY TOO MANY

too many, no excuse to drive to the smoothie shop

Big smoothy drinker is old JC but only if he can gas a badger first.

I noticed the coffee bars have started doing freshly smoothed ones.

Freshly smoothed badgers?

Only by the countryfile production office, though.

Crude Oil, Polar Bear and lime is his fave.

the limes must NOT be fair trade.

He demands the man from delmonte beats the plantation workers extra hard.

Sorry, Tennant's changing into Clarkson?

Anyway, to Dr C further up - I wasn't sure about Silence In The Library either; it was a bit of a mess, maybe Moffat trying to achieve too much. Midnight was pretty compelling, I thought.

I'm mad excited about Saturday. The wife's out tonight so I'm going to watch episode 12 again and get all giddy thinking up predictions.

Your wife is not a Dr. Who fan then?

I thought that the second part of the library story was much better than the first one - the first part was a little too disjointed, with the "virtual world" segments.

SITL probably the series highlight for me (predictably) altho I could go with FOTD just as easily really

The Sontarans a series highlight here : "the bravery of fools is bravery nonetheless" has become a catchphrase in our house.

What do they call those rhino aliens again? There were some in the Shadow Proclaimation gaff last week.

Wait, got it...Judeen, yes?

The rhino aliens are Judoon, I believe. I quite liked them just standing around in the background.

Oh yes Judoon, ta.

I like those little growls they make from time to time.

I like their language. Rol gol fol bol hol jol (out).

trying to achieve too much

this is my new explanation for when i am confusing

I'm a big fan of the 'throw lots of wacky shit at the wall and see what sticks' school of sci-fi,thus loved SITL/FOTD.

not only that but they conveyed character emotion better than yer average Who - that's part of Moffat's #1 strength

great great bit of meta gaggery with the "what just happened" "you just made a cup of tea" "no no i said let's have a cup of tea and we were sitting here drinking tea" bit

ending smth of a lame repeat of eccleston's NOBODY DIED TODAY bit in s1 tho, maybe — which episode was problably the point i felt most involved in the whole thing, so hm

nobody died, just got trapped in a matrix to spend all eternity with the same five people. worse than dying, surely?

Moffatt says he has a policy of never killing characters for good except by natural causes,which is my one concern for his stewardship - people have always died in Doctor Who!

he's gotta be taking the piss there surely, unless he means only major characters and not UNIT noobs etc.

Suddenly imagining him like the swimming pool bloke in The Day Today.

The only person who has died and not been sent back in time/brought back to life/resurrected in a computer world in one his stories so far is Mme de Pompodour (spl?), and she died of old age.

Took me a minute to get who you meant Matt, then I chuckled.

He did say in his episode commentary for Forest of the Dead that his 'no killing' policy would end once he takes overall charge.

Oh good.

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They all Lez Up

Ok, great cliffhanger but didn't anyone else think the rest of it was just a big load of awful nonsense? I mean, I really tried to suspend my disbelief but there's only so far you can go when the cast spend most of their time trying to phone someone in outer space. It just doesn't work. Also - bees flying in space WTF? Who's going to believe that? He may as well have said that pigs are flying into space and not bothered to explain it! even if they could live in space and fly without air they would take for ever to even leave the solar system!

I am also finding it really hard to relate to the "earth" that RTD has created since he's had it invaded so many times on an unnecessarily grand scale that it's no longer the planet which we live on. Clearly if we imagine that earth was repeatedly invaded the earth would be a completely different world!
Also why has Davros suddenly got a body? last Time I saw him he was just a head! And If he has somehow genetically engineered himself a new body then why has he still only got one arm and no legs? He must be the rubbishest genetic engineer ever.
Rant over.

on the plus side - Cribbins should replace the doctor!

I figured the Bees thing was a nod to Einstein.

"everything username said"

^dickhead.

omg cribbins as the doctor would be incredible

Catherine Tate was just on the Graham Norton show and revealed that she didn't realize it that actors were inside the Sontaran costumes. So when one of them pulled off his mask and stepped out of his suit she shrieked. "I thought they were doin it," she said, "with electricity."

He may as well have said that pigs are flying into space and not bothered to explain it!

or dolphins hmm

"they're not ordinary bees"

Has this series been to any version of Earth between now and its eventual destruction? Suddenly strikes me as a bit of a copout that they haven't.

By 'this series' I mean everything since 2005.

yes, isn't the hospital planet on new new york on earth?

I think New Earth is actually a completely different planet, right? They let the Earth blow up in The End of the World and then they got all nostalgic and designed a new one. Like Epcot!

I didn't think about how much of a timefuck stealing the Earth right now is, they better put it back so that it survives to get fucked up by the Daleks again in Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways.

>>"they're not ordinary bees"
oh I might have missed that, but I thought the point was that they were ordinary bees, but that all ordinary bees were "space" bees?

>>"I didn't think about how much of a timefuck stealing the Earth right now is, they better put it back so that it survives to get fucked up by the Daleks again in Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways."

LOL - yes the Daleks have really screwed themselves over there!

Did I upset you there DavidM? I wasn't suggesting that everything should be scientifically accurate (it is science FICTION) just that there should be some attempt to keep within self-defined boundaries, and explain things. Otherwise any drama runs into the problem where "magic" solves everything - deus ex machina.

Also Cribbins is fab! so yah-boo to you!

Silence in the Library not good? Midnight dire? Sontarans a highlight? Sorry Dr.C but you 150% crazy.

Yes, the Doctor says "not all bees are alien, obviously, just some of them," and then something about the Sahara. Not sure what, exactly, since it was all said very fast.