WTF?: "Seinfeld"'s Michael 'Kramer' Richards in Weird-o-Rama Onstage Meltdown

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gabbneb wants very small minorities to shut up and vanish

pls

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

anyway Imus' voice is so craggy and weird I'm surprised anyone can understand what the fuck he's saying

― m coleman, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

gabbneb surely you must acknowledge that there are leaders who are not elected (or appointed) officials

the Brawley thing is pretty inexcusable its true. that's my earliest memory of Sharpton - isn't that pretty much what got him on the national stage? I wonder what he has to say about that nowadays.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Rosie O'Donnell on The View this morning = "Well this guy's on the air XX hours a week for XX years, and so he said just one thing..."

Joy Behar = "~~ching chong, Rosie, ching chong~~ umm here's a LIST"

Barbara Walters = "ooo but he's so respected ooo y'all aren't serious political journalists like me, you don't understand Imus is grown up and stuff"

That younger woman whose head looks like a balloon = "he needs a time out! he should be suspended until next Black History Month!"

Me = "OMG why am I watching the beginning of The View? just finish getting dressed and go to work!"

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

gabbneb surely you must acknowledge that there are leaders who are not elected (or appointed) officials

of course, but they don't have constituents, strictly-speaking

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

URGH I HATE ROSIE O'DONNEL SO MUCH

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, i think leadership sort of speaks for itself and can't really be called into question where it exists

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

time wasted looking for screen cap of the Family Guy's View renedetion: 4 minutes.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see how it's at all fucking possible to interpret "nappy-headed hos" as abominably racist and sexist; nor do I see how it could be construed as "humor" in any sense of the word that I understand.

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

really

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Gabbneb you can doubt Sharpton's leadership qualities on a national / political scale, but there is zero doubt that he does verifiable leadership and organizational work (e.g., mobilizing people after the Sean Bell shooting, etc.) -- it's correct but a little misleading to call this just "single-issue" stuff, because part of Sharpton's local agenda tends to be mobilizing/"leading" people to jump on specific single issues in the first place.

No seriously though, Rosie was amusingly transparent with all her "well sometimes people say stuff on live broadcasts that they don't mean! sometimes it's an accident! maybe it's being taken out of context! cause that happened to, umm, this friend of mine!"

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, the second part of Max's post makes me feel like he accidentally left out a "not" in the first part?

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Er... yes.

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha ha ha ha whoops im going to go back to bed now

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

max, you truly don't understand how someone might interpret a white man referring to black women with a racially-deregatory ("nappy-headed") term
and with "ho" (which is short for WHORE) as being offensive? REALLY?

xpost
haha, okay, never mind.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

guys im from new jersey!! never insult the scarlet knights in my presence!

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

i missed an "anything but" before "abominably."

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

omg maybe that's what happened to imus and he meant to say they're NOT "nappy-headed hos"!!

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha it's okay, Max, we're taking your "intent" into account.

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://wwwimage.cbs.com/specials/riding_the_bus_with_my_sister/images/spe_riding_the_bus_hp_photo.jpg

I'M A (stupid self-absorbed racist) PERSON!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

wENNNNNNNNNNNNNbc

― deeznuts, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Rosie to play The F*t Bro*d in film version of B.C.?

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

[url=[Removed Illegal Link] @ "tags: offensive"[.url]

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

motherfucker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erFaoqLwod0

lolz @ "tags: offensive"

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

For the record, it was Imus's producer who first introduced the word "hos" into the conversation:

IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos ...
McGUIRK: Some hardcore hos.
IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that.

Note the black-English verb conjugations he's employing in his effort to drop some vernacular -- haha his best defense might actually be to pretend he just kinda clueless about what these words actually signify.

P.S. for the inevitable person who comes along and doesn't see what's wrong with this, here's how the conversation might have gone in a better world:

IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos ...
McGUIRK: Some hardcore hos.
IMUS: OMG, McGuirk, don't call them PROSTITUTES, WTF is wrong with you?

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

A world where Imus isn't a racist is a better world, true, but a world where Imus isn't on the radio would be still better.

― J, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I get the "nappy-headed" as standard racist rhetoric for "black" but is there a stereotype about black women all being "hos"? Or basketball players?

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

It would be helpful if there was an encyclopedia of stereotype, I think.

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

"helpful" in an odd sense.

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

at the end of the day, we should all just be thankful that british people don't know who imus is.

― ghost rider, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

is there a stereotype about black women all being "hos"?

uh... there's is if you're an ass-headed racist.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Alternate excuses:

1. Broke really expensive vase at friend's house, has been moonlighting as a Hot 97 DJ to pay him back, lack of sleep made him confused about which job he was working

2. Was running late for work and asked good friend Akon to cover for him

3. Was distracted by episode of Scooby Doo on monitor, actually said "Scrappy threatened ghost"

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Was distracted by episode of Scooby Doo on monitor, actually said "Scrappy threatened ghost"

WIZARD

― J, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

According to Imus:
Bill Rhoden = "New York Times quota hire"
Gwen Ifill = "cleaning lady"
Arabs = "ragheads."
Contessa Brewer = "fat skank [that] has to spend three hours with makeup in the morning."

of course then there's Imus sports dude Sid Rosenberg who called Serena and Venus Williams animals better suited to pose for National Geographic than Playboy and that Palestinians mourning the death of Yasser Arafat were "stinking animals" upon whom the Israelis "ought to drop the bomb right there, kill 'em all right now..."

yep, just one "slip of the tongue" riiiiiight

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

and yet michael savage will still be on the air somewhere over the next two weeks

― rps, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

(thx wikipedia I couldn't remember all that on my own x-post)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

i don't um follow imus at all, but, that's just, wow.

if you want to fuck with gwen ifill you've got to go through me. just sayin'

― gff, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

"that" = shakey's list right there

― gff, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

i somehow missed what he actually said and have only heard the media fallout (watched in snippets late last night at the hospital) until reading this thread: jesus h.

i'm curious to see what the rxn is on campus here (in the greater west), assuming anyone knows or cares. my bet is i'll hear at least a few assholes pull out the "but THEY call their women hoes all the time!" and my second corollary bet is that i'll have to stop myself from strangling them.

lotta beartraps

― river wolf, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

and the worst thing is that Imus is such an intellectual who is to be taken seriously as a deep thinker

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

I was just xposting about the Ifill one -- probably the worst and most blatant / vicious of the bunch, on top of which IT'S GWEN IFILL!

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/opinion/10ifill.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

― J, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

yeah she's awesome!

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Imus is a miserable fuck, wanabe cowboy with no idea on how to talk to or about people in the real actual living world.

― chaki, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

this album: c or d

http://www.bsnpubs.com/nyc/bang407.jpg

― chaki, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

gross

― rps, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Also, he is not Howard Stern. While Bart Simpson is listening to Howard Stern, Lisa Simpson is listening to Imus. That's the difference.

...

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

oh see i didn't realize that he self-applied the label "honky." That changes everything. He can racially insult other people all he wants, because hey, he paints himself with the same brush.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

he's ripping off richard pryor

― m coleman, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/19800.jpg

― m coleman, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

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