Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

sorry but

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Well he's got to be heard way up there in the top balcony of whatever Time Lord Palladium they're in.

Yeah, I channeled grade school when I saw that: SAY IT, DON'T SPRAY IT.

SPRAY AGENDA etc…

bumpy-wumpy, timey-wimey...

on reflection the best bit in part 1 was one of the Masters on the council block balcony snapping his fingers and then another in a grey hoody dropping something (hat?) and then dancing away on the ground below

I can transfer all UN protocols to you!!!!

this is like a fucking schools project.

this is incredible stuff

so drawn out and lame and then also drawn out and really drawn out and lame and really drawn out and drawn out and really lame and drawn out and drawn out

was it worth it for that scene. but yeah, drawn out.

8/10

Where was the Master supposed to have gone?

That was way emo but not as bad as I'd expected. Best bit was Tennant's petulant hissy fit. Also liked Wilf the gunner, and I'm glad he didn't wreck the Donna and Rose endings.

He'll need to redecorate the Tardis now...

At least we'll never have to read the phrase "I AM SO CLEVAR" on ILX again.

the master went back into the "bubble" with Rassilon and chums, not quite sure why but eh

i can't actually be bothered to nitpick this (for a while), it was pretty damn enjoyable

every time dt switched aim he also switched hands.

"mummy, why did the doctor tell jack that man's name?"

i'm so glad the doctor didn't actually say "she's my mother" re the teary timelord (nice weeping angels ref too)

TRAILER

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/newyear/

I'll miss Bernard Cribbins more than anyone else. As always he was bloody brilliant.

Yeah, very glad he didn't say "she's my mother". Also, the Rose thing wasn't as bad as I was expecting (though the Martha bit was terrible).

Whoever was saying Phantom Menace upthread was OTM, as this episode seemed ridiculously littered with Star Wars references (obvious ones I can remember - TIE fighter scene, cantina bar scene,). Not sure why they chose to do this, really.

Also, I can't quite square laughing out loud at "THAT'S RACIST" but cringing at "Worst. Rescue. Ever."

Not sure why they chose to do this, really.

because it's great! the Captain Jack scene reminded me more of Hitchhikers Guide bar at the end of the universe tbh. i don't know if the Gallifrey Panopticon design predates the Galactic Senate design.

I cracked up over WORST. RESCUE. EVER. because I knew someone would come to ILX to cringe on it, also was funny.

Ugh, I hate having to wait for torrents.

> TIE fighter scene, cantina bar scene

running across the bridges over the chasm, the parliament...

there were so many bloody red herrings with the knock four times thing. i thought Wilf offering the Doctor the gun four times was a good one.

I didn't dislike the Star Wars referencing per se, but it was a little distracting, and didn't seem (to me) to have any tie to the plotlines that were going on.

And actually, I think the main reason I cringed at the "worst rescue ever" line was because it reminded me of the otherwise-enjoyable episode where they kept saying "SPOILERZ, LOLS", which was much more horrible. But still kind of funny in its awfulness.

i did dislike the star wars references since star wars is the worst thing ever and i despise it..

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The script writers need to be told that their stories will be rejected if Deux ex Machina is used to solve plots.

And please - no more running around screaming for supposed suspense or drawn out scenes attempting to give it gravitas. It is all so light-weight and badly written.

A true reflection of British society; dumbed down, celebrity driven and all gloss no substance.

John Byng

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An uneven episode, but glad RTD gave Donna et al decent send offs. He got the emo stuff about right I think. It wasn't too mawkish, and was genuinely touching. Just a shame about the awful music. Nice to see Donna happy and while the Mickey/Martha thing was cute. Nice Sontaran cameo too. Just a shame the sci-fi stuff was incoherent. Chucking the diamond across space and time? WTF? So much stuff wasn't properly explained, like the Ood's rapid advancement - or is that just the universe helping things along so they can help the Doctor? Maybe the Ood are being lined up as a new powerful race.
I like that Dalston turned out to be Rassillon. I suppose they could have developed that, but it would have overcomplicated things for new viewers. A nice nod to Who history.
Nice that they didn't reveal who the woman was. Another theory is that it was Romana...
I suppose it's up to Moffat how he develops this stuff, but I'd be surprised if he and RTD didn't consult each other over the changeover.
Millenium Falcon nod was a bit obvious. The bar/cantina was nicely done though. The Doctor's "death" was strongly reminiscent of Spock's death in Wrath of Khan. It worked though - far better done than the rip off of Search For Spock in Doctor's Daughter.

Added: Friday, 1 January, 2010, 20:15 GMT 20:15 UK

Woeful, tired and overly sentimental last story. David Tennant was brilliant with Rose but it all went downhill after that. I'm afraid Matt Smith lacks the gravitas or experience to carry off such a big role. Sorry BBC, I won't be watching the next series.

dixie dean

lol he was only on screen about a minute

what's the point of pasting these comments?

to annoy moaning bastards

Ood were not supposed to be advancing like that, but were = how the Doctor knew that something was truly fucked up.

Fair enough, maybe I was just expecting them to run with that a bit more.
Anyway, the trailer for the new series is bloody fantastic. Matt Smith reminds me of Peter Davidson a little. He's slightly ungainly, clumsy compared to the manic, dashing Tennant. I like him punching out some guy or battering the Dalek with a stick.
Plus River Song! Sexy sword wielding vampires! Old school looking black Daleks! That creepy revolving plastic head! Best of all, the weeping angels! A reprise of Blink could be fantastic.

Also new Doc seems much cooler with guns

Link for trailer?

It's upthread but here you go:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/newyear/

UK only tho - if overseas watch here: http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/

I'm actually in London, this kind of made staying here over the hols worth it tbh.

Ugh. Can we get youtube star wars guy to do one on this?

I dunno, the numerous Star Wars references might put him off.

Too many nits to pick. And the nits are too large. But why didn't Wilf change to the Master? And why did no-one comment on this?

I think I hated RTD most of all for making nice old Bernard Cribbins cry over David Tennant.

Come on, that was a fairly rollicking, enjoyable episode, all in all.

And also, because I am thick, will someone tell me who the woman in Wilf's visions was supposed to be? I assumed it was an older Rose since they had the old Bad Wolf theme in the soundtrack, but maybe not.

glass chamber...template deflecting...something something xpost

Too many nits to pick. And the nits are too large. But why didn't Wilf change to the Master? And why did no-one comment on this?

i think the logic is that those who have been in the tardis are changed by it so don't fit the template or something.

Well that was pretty much nonsense, Tennant game till the end though. Looking forward to a change.

i think the logic is that those who have been in the tardis are changed by it so don't fit the template or something.

more to it than that as the Doctor kept meeting Wilf who was the harbinger of his doom - so "Time" or whatever was ensuring Wilf was protected so as to trigger the Doctor's demise at the right time...same ropey Rusty-logic as with Donna basically.

It was a pretty good part two, Rusty tied up loose ends with the other characters and leaves a pretty clean slate for the new team. There were many picayune nits to pick, as mentioned above. The DW and Torchwood episodes that Moffat has done in the past never impressed me much, but I will of course be watching the new ones. Tennant was a fine doctor and none of the clunky lines or cringeworthy moments really ruined it for me. (Hey, I've sat through probably 100 hours of Shatner on screen, I'm used to camp and cheese in my sci-fi.)