ATTN: Copyeditors and Grammar Fiends

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yup, the way you've done it looks grand, so.

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)

This is the inevitable outcome of having "I feel bad" and "I feel badly" both acceptable

What's amazing about this is that people who say "badly" tend to do it sort of pointedly, in the belief that it's the more correct version -- even though, with almost any other word, people know to use the adjective and would find the adverb ridiculous-sounding.

As far as tracing it back goes, I think a lot of this might stem from the fact that -- in terms of common how's-it-going questions -- the word "well" can be either an adjective or an adverb

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

can "monstrosity" be used in a neutral context?

Queef Latina (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 3 January 2010 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

i don't think so
i would choose another word unless there's some kind of context making it clear it's a good thing. but i can't imagine one, i think it's always a negative word.

welcome to gudbergur (harbl), Sunday, 3 January 2010 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

At a stretch, one might conceivably use it neutrally to describe something which is distinguished mainly by monstrous size, but some negative connotations would no doubt accompany the word in any event.

Aimless, Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:14 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

"webevent" as one word, REALLY? (appears to be one of these trademark turned generic words)

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

we be ventin'

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

While I do consider myself a Grammar Fiend, I am a little bit confused over the usage of "its" and "it's".

conrad, Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

possessive vs contraction, unless im forgetting more

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

i always just remember it as it's = it is, i mean that's what i say in my head. contractions need apostrophes and possessives don't need them (i.e., hers, whose). that's my mnemonic device.

harbl, Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

Guys, I think he's just quoting the OP.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

oh, i thought he was a genuine grammar fiend and wanted help. now i feel stupid.

harbl, Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

That means he would not get a winners or losers' share

Is that the correct use of apostrophe? I mean, I know the share is also the winners' share, but I was working on the analogy of, say, 'He would not get his mum or dad's share'. No, wait, I think I've answered the question myself now - that's not a good analogy. Apostrophes for both, right?

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Monday, 1 February 2010 14:49 (sixteen years ago)

i hate shit like that, i never know how to do it. i'd say apostrophes for both because it makes sense but i hate hate how slightly awkward it always feels.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 February 2010 14:53 (sixteen years ago)

If it were singular you wouldn't say "winner or loser's share", would you? Therefore apostrophes for both.

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 1 February 2010 14:56 (sixteen years ago)

Yep, I've gone with apostrophes for both, but you're right, it's one of those ones that just niggles no matter which way you turn it.

xpost

Yep, thanks Zelda, obvious when you put it like that - I tied myself in a knot thinking about it and just ended up making a cup of tea instead.

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Monday, 1 February 2010 14:58 (sixteen years ago)

AP style for possessives is like:

Mike, John, and Martin's company

so following that rule it seems like it would be "winner or loser's share" and thus "winners or losers' share," but there could be some exception I don't know about

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 1 February 2010 15:00 (sixteen years ago)

I guess the difference is that the winner's share and loser's share are separate things, while there is just one company that belongs to Mike, John, and Martin?

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 1 February 2010 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

I think that's what it is, yes. That's why the mum and dad analogy wasn't right.

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Monday, 1 February 2010 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

Mike, John, and Martin's company

That's rather ambiguous, though, because instead of talking about a company that belongs to Mike, John and Martin, you could be talking about two people (Mike and John) and one company (which belongs to Martin).

Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 1 February 2010 15:39 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Ok, RESUMES: Third person or First person?

I.e. do you write "performs research for litigation" or "perform research for litigation"?

pithfork (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 February 2010 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

why would you use third person for yr resume

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 February 2010 16:54 (sixteen years ago)

kinda yeah what que said

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 February 2010 16:56 (sixteen years ago)

"Perform research," but I hadn't really thought about it as first-person vs. third-person, it's just the convention.

Lusty Mo Frazier (jaymc), Thursday, 18 February 2010 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

Depends--what is it that's being resumed?

clemenza, Thursday, 18 February 2010 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

For talking about my current job, I tend to make verbs into nouns, so 'performance of' rather than 'perform' or 'performs'. For past jobs, it's past-tense, ie. 'led project x to completion' or whatever. I have no idea what kind of rationale might be behind this - it's just the way I've always done it.

Madchen, Thursday, 18 February 2010 17:09 (sixteen years ago)

why not just 'research for litigation'

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 February 2010 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

I use lots of -ings in my CV. I'm so crap at grammar terminology I don't know what they're called. Gerunds? Present participles? Anyway - them.

Alba, Friday, 19 February 2010 00:02 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

"Please note that our unit is based in __________Offices (as per above address), and not ______________, to where your correspondence has been addressed. "

fuck's sake someone pls

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, 5 March 2010 10:59 (sixteen years ago)

"We have moved. Please use our new address: _____________"

tomofthenest, Friday, 5 March 2010 12:27 (sixteen years ago)

hmp i'm trying to zing a snotty solicitor who wants a reply yesterday to letters he's sending to the wrong address tomorrow. redrafted it anyway.

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, 5 March 2010 12:32 (sixteen years ago)

ha, ok. "Wrong Addresses Never Knowingly Expedite Replies"

tomofthenest, Friday, 5 March 2010 12:44 (sixteen years ago)

Further unctious correspondence, knowingly erroneous, receives silence

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, 5 March 2010 12:47 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

am i cray-zay to think that when people say "to coin a phrase" right after they've used a HUGE CLICHE that it makes no sense???

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:48 (sixteen years ago)

are they saying this on Opposite Day?

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:49 (sixteen years ago)

no unless EVERY DAY is OPPOSITE DAY

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

Is supposedly humorous acknowledgement of cliche-usage, no?

ailsa, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:54 (sixteen years ago)

But does anyone now use it in its proper sense? I imagine it started to get used ironically, people eventually started to take the ironic meaning as its real meaning and bingo. I'm sure there are other examples of this, although I can't think of any right now.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

When it's used after a massive great cliché I can read that as sarcasm, but it seems to be used at all points along the scale from genuine coinages through "I heard this last week, do you like it?" to all levels of cliché-dom that it doesn't seem to mean anything at all.

(like half of everything ever said, then, but it bothered me when I was younger because I wasn't sure if I might be misunderstanding it completely)

falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

xp, Zelda Zonk probably otm

falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

if people are that defensive about their usage of cliches perhaps they shouldn't use them in the first place JUST AN IDEA

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

this isn't really a grammar thing

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:58 (sixteen years ago)

what cliche are we talking about, for the record.

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:58 (sixteen years ago)

any cliche

but yeah i think people just basically have no idea what it means now, and i am astonished at how irritated this makes me. "to coin" is a wonderfully evocative verb!! keep your hands off if you don't know what you're doing

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:59 (sixteen years ago)

funny, i would almost say to coin a phrase is a cliche

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:00 (sixteen years ago)

that's true - if one used "to coin a phrase" in its modern, TOTALLY WRONG sense, one might feel obligated to continue stupidly tacking on "to coin a phrase" in some kind of recursive, infinite spaz reflex

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:05 (sixteen years ago)

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/concise.htm

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:06 (sixteen years ago)

where should I post something about when people say "I'm such an X geek!!!" or "I'm such a nerd for X!!!!" all the time wherein X is a subject of which they seemingly have only an elementary awareness/a superficial interest? it's here

conrad, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

Phrases you hate...

village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

coldnrad

51ocki (k3vin k.), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:54 (sixteen years ago)


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