Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

one man's hilarious is another man's just shit

And I am sorry to be this guy but I just didn't buy the cafe scene from Tennant at all. It felt really really obvious that the director was like "OK you need to cry here", either because it was actually in the script or for some other reason and Tennant is like whatever you say chief and does the parlour trick with actual tears that all actual actors can do. And Cribsy caught the ball perfectly of course. But yeesh. I don't know. It would have worked better if the emotion came upon Tennant even more suddenly, just blindsided him, maybe when he sees Donna, rather than getting conjured in the hazy middle distance as he speaks. Did the camera actually do a slow zoom in on him at that point? Probably.

one man's hilarious is another man's just shit

I think you've done a tidy job of explaining M's incessant laughing in this ep as well

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What the hell @ Wilf with the gun...

Didn't spot the one Wilf in that poster until just now

^ haha, me neither. Like Where's Wally, but Where's Wilf. Nice work!

i didn't until you pointed it out

I believe that RTD started with the "master race!" pun and reverse-engineered the entire script from there, astounding himself at just how clever he is.

Part 2 better have lots of Dalton and Time Lords in it, otherwise this was a shrill waste of time.

OMG @ the rumoured spoiler about Tennant's last scene.

If it's true, Rusty is an utter, utter fuckwit.

where did you find this spoiler so that I can find it too (am not going to see Part two until mid January unless my hotel room has BBC America)?

Would normally resist, but figure I will see the internet before I see the episode, so the whole thing will end up spoiled anyway.

It concerns the last shot of the episode being set in the with parallel universe, with Rose and the Fucktoy Fake Doctor, and the spirit of Tennant/RTD living on in their newborn Time Baby.

It's just so bad that it can't be made up...

haha, OMG, that really really can't happen.

I just found a better spoiler for why she's in it. It doesn't involve babies or kissing or anything.

I caught a bit of David interviewing Rusty on the radio earlier this evening when I was in the car. I got really fed up with Rusty's "OMG no-one knows who I am, I'm nothing, just the guy behind the scenes" faux-humility schtick and had to turn it over, so I have no idea if I missed anything exciting.

Are you talking about Who On Who, because he didn't say that at all. The complete opposite in fact, ever since the controvosy surrounding Queer as Folk, he's been unusually well known for a TV writer.

He said something about not being known. Maybe he was joking.

look, it's even mentioned in the Guardian's review of it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2009/dec/30/who-on-who-review

It concerns the last shot of the episode being set in the with parallel universe, with Rose and the Fucktoy Fake Doctor, and the spirit of Tennant/RTD living on in their newborn Time Baby.

It's just so bad that it can't be made up...

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:55 (12 hours ago)

Oy...... If this happens I will seriously break into my local BBC store and pee* over their stock of "Dark Season" and "Century Falls" DVDs.

Whilst wearing a Cyberman voice changing helmet.

*not really. Tis a joek.

He's really going to do this, isn't he? That's such a Typical Rusty Move these days. I can picture him writing that on his sideways-turned PC monitor before applauding himself and crying out "Hooray! This is a hoot! A HOOT!".

...whilst thinking to himself something about how the ending gives a remarkable "circle of life" quality to the character, something akin to his Doctor being able to sustain himself beyond death, like if he was able to stay around somehow.

Like if he could "regenerate", or something.

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sorry but

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Well he's got to be heard way up there in the top balcony of whatever Time Lord Palladium they're in.

Yeah, I channeled grade school when I saw that: SAY IT, DON'T SPRAY IT.

SPRAY AGENDA etc…

bumpy-wumpy, timey-wimey...

on reflection the best bit in part 1 was one of the Masters on the council block balcony snapping his fingers and then another in a grey hoody dropping something (hat?) and then dancing away on the ground below

I can transfer all UN protocols to you!!!!

this is like a fucking schools project.

this is incredible stuff

so drawn out and lame and then also drawn out and really drawn out and lame and really drawn out and drawn out and really lame and drawn out and drawn out

was it worth it for that scene. but yeah, drawn out.

8/10

Where was the Master supposed to have gone?

That was way emo but not as bad as I'd expected. Best bit was Tennant's petulant hissy fit. Also liked Wilf the gunner, and I'm glad he didn't wreck the Donna and Rose endings.

He'll need to redecorate the Tardis now...

At least we'll never have to read the phrase "I AM SO CLEVAR" on ILX again.

the master went back into the "bubble" with Rassilon and chums, not quite sure why but eh

i can't actually be bothered to nitpick this (for a while), it was pretty damn enjoyable

every time dt switched aim he also switched hands.

"mummy, why did the doctor tell jack that man's name?"

i'm so glad the doctor didn't actually say "she's my mother" re the teary timelord (nice weeping angels ref too)

TRAILER

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I'll miss Bernard Cribbins more than anyone else. As always he was bloody brilliant.

Yeah, very glad he didn't say "she's my mother". Also, the Rose thing wasn't as bad as I was expecting (though the Martha bit was terrible).

Whoever was saying Phantom Menace upthread was OTM, as this episode seemed ridiculously littered with Star Wars references (obvious ones I can remember - TIE fighter scene, cantina bar scene,). Not sure why they chose to do this, really.

Also, I can't quite square laughing out loud at "THAT'S RACIST" but cringing at "Worst. Rescue. Ever."

Not sure why they chose to do this, really.

because it's great! the Captain Jack scene reminded me more of Hitchhikers Guide bar at the end of the universe tbh. i don't know if the Gallifrey Panopticon design predates the Galactic Senate design.

I cracked up over WORST. RESCUE. EVER. because I knew someone would come to ILX to cringe on it, also was funny.

Ugh, I hate having to wait for torrents.

> TIE fighter scene, cantina bar scene

running across the bridges over the chasm, the parliament...

there were so many bloody red herrings with the knock four times thing. i thought Wilf offering the Doctor the gun four times was a good one.

I didn't dislike the Star Wars referencing per se, but it was a little distracting, and didn't seem (to me) to have any tie to the plotlines that were going on.

And actually, I think the main reason I cringed at the "worst rescue ever" line was because it reminded me of the otherwise-enjoyable episode where they kept saying "SPOILERZ, LOLS", which was much more horrible. But still kind of funny in its awfulness.

i did dislike the star wars references since star wars is the worst thing ever and i despise it..

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