Ken vs. Boris: It's So On

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If only the SNP had put forward a candidate for Mayor of London.

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James Mitchell, Friday, 2 May 2008 08:35 (eighteen years ago)

(in all seriousness: a tory england is one of the best selling points scottish independence could have: this has been discussed by iain macwhirter and others at some length now.)

If only the SNP had put forward a candidate for Mayor of London

i think salmond might have quite relished that, just for shits and giggles.

grimly fiendish, Friday, 2 May 2008 08:36 (eighteen years ago)

a tory england is one of the best selling points scottish independence could have

OTM. However Rangers reaching the final of the UEFA Cup might have given support for the Union a little shot in the arm.

Tom D., Friday, 2 May 2008 08:52 (eighteen years ago)

The top four recommended comments are actually scary.

James Mitchell, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:09 (eighteen years ago)

National share something like Con/LD/Lab: 44/25/24? Amazing(ly awful). I mean, you can lop off 10 from the LibDems in a General Election, maybe divvy it up 6/4 to Lab, and perhaps Con have a 3pt swing over Lab at local level, and then there's Scotland to factor in - but anyway you slice it, this maps to at least a 1979-level Tory GE win. Lot of work to do in the next two years.

Jeremy Vine stuff last night was just beyond parody. I think it may have been beyond Pluto. You can take your Day Today DVDs and throw them in the bin. They're useless now.

Michael Jones, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:10 (eighteen years ago)

Jeremy Vine = Fake Plastic Snow

Tom D., Friday, 2 May 2008 09:11 (eighteen years ago)

The top four recommended comments are actually scary.

'Socialist fascists' eh!

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:14 (eighteen years ago)

Those people on that BBC thread are the people we share a country with. Perhaps I am too often apt to forget that in a haze of fellow feeling for my compatriots.

They write so badly - it's amazing what people will happily stick online, for the world to see, under their own names.

But it's amazing that people would vote BJ, and they do, in hundreds of thousands (or is it millions)?

JOIN ME.

the pinefox, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:17 (eighteen years ago)

.. and that's a 'moderated' board.

How did that "if Ken wins, it's the biggest voting rigging scandal ever, RMugabe would be proud" comment pass, legally standing?

Mark G, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

Those BBC favourite comments give me the fear. The Bee En Pee messageboard must have coach trips there to vote anything mentioning them up, right? Ugh.

go Boris! Those of us in greater London cannot wait to see the smirk wiped off the face of Red Ken as he faces having to work for a living!

Ah, good old hard-working Boris, kicked out of a succession of first jobs (Times reporter/management consultancy - yr average working person's early-20s jobs, obviously) for reasons like "found it all terribly dull" or "oh, just make it all up, who cares?".

Er, yeah, I have to stop now or I'd be spitting bile at all of them ("aren't poor people disgusting" in same post as "oh noes 10p tax rate debacle", etc).

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:46 (eighteen years ago)

I've long thought that 'comments', as with other communications to newspapers by readers, should be screened for spelling, grammar and general coherence before appearing in any forum of any newspaper of record.

suzy, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:48 (eighteen years ago)

by whom, and who is going to pay them?

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

Ed, newspaper sites are moderated so someone's already basically being paid to filter comments; what's wrong with spiking those which don't come up to x standard of written English, and making it clear when people register to leave comments that this is the case?

suzy, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:56 (eighteen years ago)

The fascists are probably just recommending each others comments to drive them to the top.

The last few times I've visited London, it's been wholly pleasant, I felt it would be a good place to live. Glad I don't live there now.

People on some musician's board I post on (probably take a step back from it a bit now TBH) are all "haha those thieving labour cunts deserve a good kicking" WTF GAZE INTO THE ABYSS FOOLS.

Pashmina, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:03 (eighteen years ago)

Unfortunate timing of lead review on Pitchfork.

Pete, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

Moderated yes, subedited no

xposts

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:21 (eighteen years ago)

what's wrong with spiking those which don't come up to x standard of written English

Conversely, however, that would also filter out comments from immigrants for whom English is a second language.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

I really felt like wearing a black armband today.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

A black shirt would have been more appropriate

Tom D., Friday, 2 May 2008 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

Is it just me or is the grey text on Pitchfork unreadable no matter what size I put it to?? Using Firefox on a PC here

Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

And I hope Labour learn from this and go back to being a proper Labour Party because basically Mr and Mrs Hitler of Auschwitz Avenue, Little Drippings, will fuck you up no matter whether you try to placate them or not.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

Agreed, but then what does it mean to be a labour party in 2008?

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

Think of it in cycling terms. Is it better to be leading or on the shoulder of the leader coming into the last few hundred metres?

(of course the analogy breaks down when you realise that Labour aren't on the shoulder of the tories, they're the lanterne rouge at the back of the peloton)

Mark C, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

I never suggested they would get subbed - but that happens for brevity's sake already - I was more into spiking TBH, with a blanket SORRY YOUR COMMENT WAS UNFIT FOR PUBLICATION. PLEASE REFER TO COMMENT GUIDELINES. Most immigrants with ESL have a far higher standard of written English than these morons.

suzy, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

I would say that the LP are the domestiques who have dropped back behind the peleton to bring their ailing lead rider forward.

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:34 (eighteen years ago)

Guardian more or less calling it for Johnson.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/may/02/london08.london?gusrc=rss&feed=uknews

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe we'll get a Boris = drugz cheat revelation before he can take office.

Mark C, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Even the Liberal Democrats reported a high turnout for their candidate, Brian Paddick, in south-west London, the Liberal Democrat stronghold in the capital.

HI DERE

Mark C, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

high turnout in inner london could save ken yet, (please)

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

clutching at straws here

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

subbed (and suspiciously one-dimensional) comments on this Indy article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/waiting-game-as-final-poll-shows-boris-threatens-to-drive-ken-out-of-city-hall-819826.html

Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Tom Conti, actor

Boris/Second preference Brian

"Boris is definitely getting my vote. He's not a class warrior like Ken. There's no room for that in society any more. London needs hope and Boris offers hope.

"Ken bought more buses but the wrong sort. Boris's promises on new Routemasters are a tall order but I think he knows that. This nannying is ridiculous. If you run after a bus, leap on and land flat on your face, that's your fault."

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

I chose a bad time to move to London didn't I?

I dread to think what London's going to be like in four years' time.

Jill, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

How come hackney is called 'inner city'?

G00blar, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

Molly Parkin, painter

Boris

"I am horrified with myself but I am going to be voting for Boris despite having been Left-wing all my life.

"I think he would inject some fun and sophistication into London. I rather like his baby-blond hair and he's much more my sort of chap.”

One-woman advert for the Taliban ahoy.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

Wonder if Tom Conti uses buses

laxalt, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:46 (eighteen years ago)

Gooblar, it's because white people say so.

Lokk, you guys, YouGov poll was conducted on behalf of the EVENING BASTARD.

suzy, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:46 (eighteen years ago)

Tom Conti, actor

Boris/Second preference Brian

Tom Cunti more like, he's brought shame on Paisley, the town that gave you, errrrrrrrrr, Andrew Neil... ok scrub that

Tom D., Friday, 2 May 2008 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

idiot schlebs not really understanding STV (I fear for teh rest of london.

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

Hopefully Conti will keep on refusing to pay his congestion charge and next time the bailiffs will rip the shirt off his fucking turncoat back.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

Yer daughter's shite too, Conti, ya bass

Tom D., Friday, 2 May 2008 10:50 (eighteen years ago)

Metro poll called it for Ken this morning /clutching at straws

I read that Cunti/Parkin/etc article last night. Scum, subhuman scum.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

Pinefox, can you rugby-tackle Grayling next time you see him?

Michael Jones, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

Preferably with Daisy Goodwin, compiler of Poems That Could Save Your Life BANG BANG whoops they didn't did they Daisy?

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

If only more people read the sport

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

Ppls stated reasons for voting boris are unbelievable!

"He's going to inject more 'fun' into London"

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4910/ptr13bo3.jpg

"oh noes bendy buses instead of routemasters nanny state oh noes"

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4910/ptr13bo3.jpg

"haha those thieving labour cunts deserve a good kicking"

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4910/ptr13bo3.jpg

"It's more about change for me. I just want to get Ken out and Boris will certainly be entertaining. "

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/Blutfahne.jpg

I hate this country today.

Pashmina, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

Entertainment beat competence for leader of the greatest city on the planet (tm). Idiots, time to emigrate.

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

Andrew Roberts, Historian

Boris

"I am voting for Boris because it is his chance to show he is a figure of substance and because of the Standard's many revelations about Ken."

My God, man - you're a historian! Evidence, facts, research, sources, citations? He swallowing what the ES is pushing? I despair.

Michael Jones, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

silver lining, tory councilors are going to be much less media savvy and much more old school bigots so we should get a shitstorm of feet in mouths across the country as hundreds of new tory councilors speak out.

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:05 (eighteen years ago)


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