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cynical interpretation: sharpton's ensuring hillary doesn't have to go on the show

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

[em]of whom/what?[/em]

his constituents?

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

bah

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

NBC will have to get that mouthbreather Chris Matthews on some other morning cavefest now.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

gabbneb why are you playing dumb about the fact that al sharpton has constituents and is a broker for them? and when i said "true leader" i mean that the actions he urges people to take seem usually grounded in a morality that i identify with, and i think he expresses his vision convincingly

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not playing dumb, i'm being a pedant. a constituent is someone who elects/appoints someone as their agent/representative. even if you deem a non-officeholder to have constituents, i don't think there are too many people when talking about the country at large for whom al sharpton is their moral agent/representative, and for those for whom he is, it may in many cases be for only a limited rather than a general purpose, perhaps even specific to a single dispute. does he really stand out for you in the category of persons who urge others to take action from a moral base that you identify with?

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I really want to see the New York Times forbid Frank Rich and Maureen Dowd from going on Imus anymore, also would enjoy reading either columnist try to ~~weasal their way out of this mess~~ justify the I-man's pathetic shtick. longtime New Yorkers will remember Bob Grant and his comments about David Dinkins as washroom attendent.

on tv this am James Carville was honest enough to say that while he condemned Imus' remarks he thought Imus shouldn't be fired because his show "sells lots of books for his guests." 1 big media cluster fuck

― m coleman, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

first Sharpton, now Carville. what third would indicate a trend?

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

oh, he wasn't really taking him down was he?

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

xpost yes! i agree with sharpton more than i agree with anybody else who has ever run for president in my lifetime, for instance.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

ok, my proposition is that you belong to a very small minority there

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

al sharpton is an amoral opportunist and as long as he's considered a legit representative of african-americans their second-class political status in this race-challenged country won't change.

― m coleman, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

i agree in advance about his funny hair though. maybe it's hard to see past that.

btw you weren't being a pedant, because i hadn't even used the word "constituents" yet at that point. so um.

amoral, wow

opportunist i can see but that applies to just about every politician ever

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

its funny (okay not really) how white dudes making glaringly racist comments is just something that routinely happens in broadcasting. its like clockwork. Remember Jimmy the Greek? ("look at that monkey run!")

btw blaming Sharpton for the social position of black people seems ass-backwards to me.

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

al sharpton is an amoral opportunist and as long as he's considered a legit representative of african-americans their second-class political status in this race-challenged country won't change.

aren't you quoting someone here? I swear i've read this before. many times.

― deej, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

gabbneb wants very small minorities to shut up and vanish. Be a joiner!

Maybe less amoral folks should step forward on corrupt media circlejerks like the Imus Industry, then, and the Rev Al wouldn't hafta fill the vacuum.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

btw you weren't being a pedant, because i hadn't even used the word "constituents" yet at that point. so um.

I was being a pedant about what a leader is with constituency used to illustrate in the same fashion you did.

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I don't blame Sharpton for that, but his being embraced by the mass media is a symptom of liberal condescension. this isn't worth discussing with me, he makes me insane, I'll never forgive him the for Tawana Brawley hoax -- set back race relations in NYC for years.

― m coleman, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

gabbneb wants very small minorities to shut up and vanish

pls

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

anyway Imus' voice is so craggy and weird I'm surprised anyone can understand what the fuck he's saying

― m coleman, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

gabbneb surely you must acknowledge that there are leaders who are not elected (or appointed) officials

the Brawley thing is pretty inexcusable its true. that's my earliest memory of Sharpton - isn't that pretty much what got him on the national stage? I wonder what he has to say about that nowadays.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Rosie O'Donnell on The View this morning = "Well this guy's on the air XX hours a week for XX years, and so he said just one thing..."

Joy Behar = "~~ching chong, Rosie, ching chong~~ umm here's a LIST"

Barbara Walters = "ooo but he's so respected ooo y'all aren't serious political journalists like me, you don't understand Imus is grown up and stuff"

That younger woman whose head looks like a balloon = "he needs a time out! he should be suspended until next Black History Month!"

Me = "OMG why am I watching the beginning of The View? just finish getting dressed and go to work!"

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

gabbneb surely you must acknowledge that there are leaders who are not elected (or appointed) officials

of course, but they don't have constituents, strictly-speaking

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

URGH I HATE ROSIE O'DONNEL SO MUCH

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, i think leadership sort of speaks for itself and can't really be called into question where it exists

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

time wasted looking for screen cap of the Family Guy's View renedetion: 4 minutes.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see how it's at all fucking possible to interpret "nappy-headed hos" as abominably racist and sexist; nor do I see how it could be construed as "humor" in any sense of the word that I understand.

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

really

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Gabbneb you can doubt Sharpton's leadership qualities on a national / political scale, but there is zero doubt that he does verifiable leadership and organizational work (e.g., mobilizing people after the Sean Bell shooting, etc.) -- it's correct but a little misleading to call this just "single-issue" stuff, because part of Sharpton's local agenda tends to be mobilizing/"leading" people to jump on specific single issues in the first place.

No seriously though, Rosie was amusingly transparent with all her "well sometimes people say stuff on live broadcasts that they don't mean! sometimes it's an accident! maybe it's being taken out of context! cause that happened to, umm, this friend of mine!"

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, the second part of Max's post makes me feel like he accidentally left out a "not" in the first part?

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Er... yes.

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha ha ha ha whoops im going to go back to bed now

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

max, you truly don't understand how someone might interpret a white man referring to black women with a racially-deregatory ("nappy-headed") term
and with "ho" (which is short for WHORE) as being offensive? REALLY?

xpost
haha, okay, never mind.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

guys im from new jersey!! never insult the scarlet knights in my presence!

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

i missed an "anything but" before "abominably."

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

omg maybe that's what happened to imus and he meant to say they're NOT "nappy-headed hos"!!

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha it's okay, Max, we're taking your "intent" into account.

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://wwwimage.cbs.com/specials/riding_the_bus_with_my_sister/images/spe_riding_the_bus_hp_photo.jpg

I'M A (stupid self-absorbed racist) PERSON!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

wENNNNNNNNNNNNNbc

― deeznuts, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Rosie to play The F*t Bro*d in film version of B.C.?

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

[url=[Removed Illegal Link] @ "tags: offensive"[.url]

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

motherfucker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erFaoqLwod0

lolz @ "tags: offensive"

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

For the record, it was Imus's producer who first introduced the word "hos" into the conversation:

IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos ...
McGUIRK: Some hardcore hos.
IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that.

Note the black-English verb conjugations he's employing in his effort to drop some vernacular -- haha his best defense might actually be to pretend he just kinda clueless about what these words actually signify.

P.S. for the inevitable person who comes along and doesn't see what's wrong with this, here's how the conversation might have gone in a better world:

IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos ...
McGUIRK: Some hardcore hos.
IMUS: OMG, McGuirk, don't call them PROSTITUTES, WTF is wrong with you?

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

A world where Imus isn't a racist is a better world, true, but a world where Imus isn't on the radio would be still better.

― J, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I get the "nappy-headed" as standard racist rhetoric for "black" but is there a stereotype about black women all being "hos"? Or basketball players?

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

It would be helpful if there was an encyclopedia of stereotype, I think.

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

"helpful" in an odd sense.

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

at the end of the day, we should all just be thankful that british people don't know who imus is.

― ghost rider, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

is there a stereotype about black women all being "hos"?

uh... there's is if you're an ass-headed racist.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Alternate excuses:

1. Broke really expensive vase at friend's house, has been moonlighting as a Hot 97 DJ to pay him back, lack of sleep made him confused about which job he was working

2. Was running late for work and asked good friend Akon to cover for him

3. Was distracted by episode of Scooby Doo on monitor, actually said "Scrappy threatened ghost"

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

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