Katrina's aftermath

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Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile, Hilary Duff, conscience of the nation:

9:53 A.M. - LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Hilary Duff has pledged to donate $250,000 to help Hurricane Katrina victims on the Gulf Coast. The 17-year-old singer-actress will give $200,000 to the American Red Cross and $50,000 to USA Harvest, which is supplying food to shelters, according to a statement released Thursday by publicist Cece Yorke. The latter donation will amount to more than 300,000 cans of food being provided to victims.


Duff encouraged fans to bring canned food donations to her concerts and to give money to charities.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

What the fuck is that picture, Ned?!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Fuck you hater, Hilary Duff recorded a song by song cover of "Loveless"!

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

whats the link to that blog again, ned?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Good for Hillary.

Jordan, that pictures is fires burning in NO.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

great. the part of the buildings not underwater are now on fire. perfect.

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Interdictor blog:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/

Fuck you hater, Hilary Duff recorded a song by song cover of "Loveless"!

Lo, I am shamed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Spot the contrast.

10:37 A.M. - Bush: First we're going to save lives and stabilize the situation.


10:33 A.M. - (AP) A large fire erupted today in an old retail building in a dry section of Canal Street. There's no immediate reports of injuries.Earlier today, an explosion at a chemical depot rocked an area of New Orleans east of the French Quarter.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

http://neworleans.craigslist.org/m4w/94980898.html

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

http://teemix.aufeminin.com/imworld3/album/D20050201/78601_D5GBLF7OLX3RB5R56N4QWG1BC4IMHK_duff_with_daisy_rock_H195014_L.jpg

I LOVE U HILARY DON'T LET THE HATERS KEEP U DOWN

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

10:39 A.M. - President George Bush: The great city of New Orleans will be rebuilt. Out of this tragedy will come a great Gulf Coast.

Great. Super.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Actually that photo *does* kinda look like she's in front of a section of the Loveless cover.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4207202.stm
Link to fire information: appears to be a chemical explosion from a factory.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Rep. Carter makes urgent plea for gas, buses

BATON ROUGE - State Rep. Karen Carter, D-New Orleans, made an urgent plea Friday morning for gasoline and buses to ferry victims to safety who have been stuck in New Orleans under deteriorating conditions since Hurricane Katrina struck the city four days ago.

"If you want to save a life get a bus down here," said Carter, whose district includes the French Quarter. "I'm asking the American people to help save a wonderful American city." Her voice cracking with emotion and her eyes bloodshot from fatigue and distress, Carter said pledges of money and other assistance are of secondary importance right now to the urgent need for transportation.

"Don't give me your money. Don't send me $10 million today. Give me buses and gas. Buses and gas. Buses and gas," she said. "If you have to commandeer Greyhound, commandeer Greyhound. … If you donn't get a bus, if we don't get them out of there, they will die."

Lt. Gen. Steven Blum, who is coordinating federal relief efforts on behalf of the National Guard, could not say when people can expect to be rescued. “If you're human you've got to be affected by it, Blum said. "These people, their heartstrings are torn as are yours. (But) the magnitude of this problem is you cannot help everybody at the same time."

Blum said 7,000 troops from around the country and will be in place by Saturday evening to help restore order.

Col. Pete Schneider, a spokesman for the Louisiana National Guard, said most of the new arriving soldiers are military police or infantry.

Already, the beefed-up police presence is allowing for patrols in area that have essentially been ungoverned since Katrina struck. "We're getting into areas that have been previously inaccessible," said Sgt. Cathy Flinchum of the Louisiana State Police

Asked why the people waiting at the Ernest M. Morial Convention Center and elsewhere have not received airdropped relief supplies of food and water despite reports that corprse are beginning to pile up, Blum said: "I don't know. That's what I'm doing here is assessing the situation. Nobody wants anyone to die."

Carter, who expressed frustration with the slow pace of the federal relief effort and compared it to the speed with which U.S. forces react in times of war and tragedy in other countries, insisted there is one key way for people to help.

"If you own a bus, bring it. We'll find a way to get it in to New Orleans," she said.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

From the comments section on that blog Ned linked to

If everyone were armed, within the first moments of any looting/violence, the good people could have picked off the violent ones. Had they not been sitting around on their asses expecting help from the government

The mind boggles.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

UGH

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

From a nola.com story:

By midmorning Friday, despite a constant buzzing of military helicopters overhead, there was still no sign of the relief to the tens of thousands lined up outside the convention center.

"I'm trying to keep hope alive, but slowly my hope is fading," said refugee Carl Clark. "Believe it or not, these people are human. Right now they're crowded like animals. They're trying to keep their dignity. ... I don't even know what the Red Cross looks like."

Raymond Whitfield, 51, watched a National Guard truck drive by the convention center, but like most other official vehicles, it did not stop.

"The National Guard just drives around and around. I know the police, the National Guard, they got generators, so they can sleep and eat," he said.

"Look at them," he said of the men inside the truck, "they're not even sweating."

"Everybody's on the edge right now," said 28-year-old Kenya Green. "Every day, it's `The bus is coming, The bus is coming,' but still nothing. ... They don't give us no information."

Conditions were dire at the Superdome as well. By Thursday evening, 11 hours after the military began evacuating the Superdome, the arena held 10,000 more people than it did at dawn. Evacuees from across the city swelled the crowd to about 30,000 because they believed the arena was the best place to get a ride out of town.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Nagin: Uh, I don’t know. I don’t think so. Uh, but we called for martial law when we realize that the looting was getting out of control. We redirected all of our police officers back to patrolling the streets. They were dirt...dead tired from saving people but they worked all night because we thought this thing was gonna blow wide open last night. And so we redirected all of our resources and we held it under check. I’m not sure if we can do that another night with the current resources. And I am telling you right now, they’re showing all these reports of people looting and doing all that weird stuff and they are doing that, but people are desperate and they’re trying to find food and water. The majority of them. Now, you got some knuckleheads out there and they are taking advantage of this lawless...this situation where we can’t really control it and they are doing some awful, awful things but that’s a small majority of the people. Most people are looking to try and survive. And you’ve gotta, one of the things, nobody's talked about this. Drugs flowed in and out of New Orleans and the surrounding metropolitan area so freely it was scary to me. And that’s why we were having an escalation in murders. People don’t want to talk about this but I’m going to talk about it. You have drug addicts that are now walking around this city looking for a fix. And that’s the reason why they were breaking into hospitals and drug stores. They’re looking for something to take the edge of their jones, if you will. And right now they don’t have anything to take the edge off and they’ve probably found guns. So what you’re seeing is drug starving crazy addicts. Drug addicts that are wreaking havoc and we don’t have the manpower to adequately deal with it. We can only target certain sections of the city and form a perimeter around them and hope to God that we are not overrun.

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

from a jurisprudential view this behaviour is fascinating but it's difficult to abstract yrself to that frame of mind really when the humanity of the entire situation is so sad and angering

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

nagin's full interview transcript here:
http://www.wonkette.com/politics/ray-nagin/index.php#nagins-nightmare-full-transcript-123683

i really feel for him.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

From the nola.com 'your stories' blog here -- the blog is telling reading in general, given what it must suggest about everything else not able to be reported:

Subject: My Hurricane Story -- Medical staff from Superdome now in
Hyatt

Story: My mother is a doctor, and works for the city of New Orleans.
She was told to report to work at the Superdome at 7AM on Sunday 8/28.
Over my objections, she did. We have gotten 4 calls from her on her
cell phone since then. The first was Monady afternoon, when she was very
reassuring. The second was Thursday morning when she called to notify
us that they had moved the medical staff to the Hyatt Regency because
"the security situation was deteriorating in the Superdome". She
thought they were going to send an armored bus to evacuate them to Baton
Rouge, where I am. She was still quite calm, but she said she was the only
person there with a cell phone that still worked. The third was
Thursday night around 9PM, at which time she asked us to try to put pressure
on the governor's office, or somebody, to try to get them out. She
called back again at 4:30 on Friday to ask that we try to do something to
get food and water to the Hyatt. Apparently the State Police are in
charge of the people at the Hyatt.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

What IS the governor doing, come to think of it? I haven't heard shit about her, except for some bullshit looting proclamation.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

from the nagin interview:

ROBINETTE: Well, you and I must be in the minority. Because
apparently there's a section of our citizenry out there that thinks
because of a law that says the federal government can't come in unless
requested by the proper people, that everything that's going on to this point has been done as good as it can possibly be.

NAGIN: Really?

ROBINETTE: I know you don't feel that way.

NAGIN: Well, did the tsunami victims request? Did it go through a formal process to request?

You know, did the Iraqi people request that we go in there? Did
they ask us to go in there?

What is more important?

And I'll tell you, man, I'm probably going get in a whole bunch
of trouble. I'm probably going to get in so much trouble it ain't even
funny. You probably won't even want to deal with me after this
interview is over.

ROBINETTE: You and I will be in the funny place together.

NAGIN: But we authorized $8 billion to go to Iraq
lickety-quick. After 9/11, we gave the president unprecedented powers lickety-quick to take care of New York and other places.

Now, you mean to tell me that a place where most of your oil is coming through, a place that is so unique when you mention New Orleans anywhere around the world, everybody's eyes light up -- you mean to tell me that a place where you probably have thousands of people that have died and thousands more that are dying every day, that we can't figure out a way to authorize the resources that we need? Come on, man.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

From the other thread here's the whole Nagin interview as an mp3. It's worth listening to.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

jordan check crooksandliars for video of the governor getting slammed in an interview with anderson cooper.

(xpost cnn.com is now streaming the nagin interview in its completion as well.)

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

is it wrong to wish gwb could be dropped into the crowd outside the superdome right now with no fucking secret service?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

That would be sweet.

O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

is it wrong to wish gwb could be dropped into the crowd outside the superdome right now with no fucking secret service?

No, it isn't.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

(CNN) -- A convoy of military vehicles plowed through the flooded streets of New Orleans on Friday bringing food, water and medicine to the thousands of people trapped at a downtown convention center.

The relief effort came as President Bush toured the Gulf Coast to survey damage from Hurricane Katrina and shortly after the mayor of New Orleans said the city was "holding on by a thread."

The commanding general in charge of the relief effort in New Orleans was directing the operation from a street corner. He told the troops, part of a deployment of 1,000 members of the National Guard, to make sure they kept their guns down. (Watch aid roll into New Orleans -- 3:33)

"A few moments ago, he stopped a truck full of National Guard Troops ... and said, 'Point your weapons down, this is not Iraq,'" said CNN's Barbara Starr who is traveling with the three-star general.

"He is very determined to keep this looking like a humanitarian relief operation," Starr said.

Thousands of people have been stranded at the Ernest Morial Convention Center with little help and surrounded by corpses, trash and human waste.

"We got here, there's no food. There's no water. There's shooting. They're killing people," evacuee Tishia Walters told CNN from inside the center. "They're robbing men in the restrooms, they're raping women trying to go to the rest room. So people have resorted to defecating on the floors. You can't walk. There's babies without Pampers, mammas without milk. It's chaos total chaos."

Mayor Ray Nagin said in a statement that more than 10,000 people were evacuated from the city Thursday but that more than 50,000 survivors were still on rooftops and in shelters, in urgent need of help. (See video of the desperate conditions -- 1:56)

Earlier, Nagin lashed out at state and federal authorities saying they were "thinking small" in the face of the massive crisis. (See video of the demand for national leaders to 'get off their asses' -- 12:09)

Nagin will meet with President Bush on at the New Orleans airport when Bush arrives there Friday, according to White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

Bush: Results 'not acceptable'
President Bush arrived in Mobile, Alabama, on Friday to inspect the storm damage. He sad the federal government would "restore order in the city of New Orleans," where violence has hampered rescue efforts.

Before leaving Washington, Bush told reporters that millions of tons of food and water were on the way to -- but the results of the relief effort "are not acceptable." (Full story) (Watch Bush news briefing -- 2:32)

Bush is taking an aerial tour of Mobile and nearby Biloxi, Mississippi. He then plans to view Louisiana hurricane damage from the air, flying over the city of New Orleans.

Police outnumbered and outgunned
Overnight, police snipers were stationed on the roof of their precinct, trying to protect it from gunmen roaming through the city, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported.

One New Orleans police sergeant compared the situation to Somalia and said officers were outnumbered and outgunned by gangs in trucks.

"It's a war zone, and they're not treating it like one," he said, referring to the federal government.

The officer hitched a ride to Baton Rouge Friday morning, after working 60 hours straight in the flooded city. He has not decided whether he will return.

He broke down in tears when he described the deaths of his fellow officers, saying many had drowned doing their jobs. Other officers have turned in their badges as the situation continues to deteriorate.

In one incident, the sergeant said gunmen fired rifles and AK-47s at the helicopters flying overhead.

He said he saw bodies riddled with bullet holes, and the top of one man's head completely shot off.

Lt. Gen Steven Blum of the National Guard said that as many as 2,600 National Guard troops were expected to arrive in Louisiana Friday to join the nearly 2,000 who went in Thursday.

gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

check crooksandliars for video of the governor getting slammed in an interview with anderson cooper.

That was actually a Senator, not the Governor.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

"He is very determined to keep this looking like a humanitarian relief operation," Starr said.

gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

shit, you're right. sorry, my bad.

(xpost)

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

"He is very determined to keep this looking like a humanitarian relief operation," Starr said.
-- gear (speed.to.roa...), September 2nd, 2005. (gear)

"Reeemembah, Dahlings...it's better to looook goood than to feeel goood"

Fernando (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

And here's the kind of e-mails that I'm getting from co-workers:

Greetings All,

Interesting and encouraging article below from RADIO BUSINESS REPORT about Radio and TV efforts nationwide.

It is normal to think that only “we” are helping, but be encouraged by the knowledge that stations from Philly to San Diego, and Spokane to Boston and all sized markets in between are reaching out, just as we are.

And before anybody works up a full sweat bashing the Feds, do a little newspaper archive research and you’ll find that EVERY administration since the 60’s (when FEMA was developed) has been bashed for being slow or non-existent – even the 8 years of “I feel your pain. . . “.

And none of them were guilty of being slow. By all means call FEMA and tell them where to land the cargo planes full of people and supplies; Oyeah, I forgot the storm wiped out all the airports near enough to do any good. So call’m and tell’m about all the super highways they can use……whoops, I forgot, ALL the highways are gone, too. I-10 east of N.O. is gone for about a hundred miles.

The truth is that six months from now when 90% of those who receive this e-mail have forgotten about Katrina’s victims, FEMA will STILL be there helping.

Anyway, check out the article and be at peace that broadcasters everywhere are doing all they can.

Respectfully,

Stewart Robb, C.R.M.C.
Account Executive

This went out to everyone who works here. I hit "Reply All" and sent this:

Greetings, Stew.

Please keep your cute opinions about the Federal government to yourself. I could go on about federal funding cut from the budget to shore up the levees to NATIONAL guardsmen who have been called away from their post to go fight a war in a different country. The Head of FEMA, Michael Brown, admitted to Brian Williams last night on NBC’s news that he wasn’t aware that the situation was so serious, or that people were waiting for buses at the Convention Center. If it was your parent sitting dead on a highway median or your relative being raped in the Louisiana Superdome, I wonder how sing-songy you’d be about FEMA.

I miss the days of presidents saying “I feel your pain” rather than “don’t buy gas if you don’t need to.”

Tre Baker, American

I may be fired now, but I don't care.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

hero

gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

This went out to everyone who works here. I hit "Reply All" and sent this:

holy fuck, man. rock.

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

That's awesome Tre.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

PP - you rule.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Nicely done, Pleasant. (And feel free to post his whining response if there is one.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

is it wrong to wish gwb could be dropped into the crowd outside the superdome right now with no fucking secret service?

If it's wrong, I don't wanna be right.

j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

I did something similar at my job after 9/11 (ie, responding to an idiot). I was laid off within three days.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Maybe Bush can fly over in a jetfighter and parachute down to the angry mob. They couldn't possibly stay mad at him then! Macho pres. is here! (Food to arrive later.)

Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Never Forget 9/14

Stormy Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

According to Chuck Taggart's New Orleans-intensive Looka! blog, Shout! Factory Records is donating net profits from Web sales of their Big Ol' Box of New Orleans 4-CD set to N.O. disaster relief efforts.

Shout! Factory's site doesn't say anything about it, but Chuck's been in touch with them, and says it's so.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Never Forget 9/14

hahahahahaha

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/top.katfri23.jpg

Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

yo Pleasant Plains, you post his email I'll fucking email the cuntbag too.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

haha I'll be a reference for you if you get fired PP!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

I mean I just think someone needs to email this Stewart and inform him that HARRY CONNICK JR. managed to find a highway to get to the Convention Center, so I mean maybe it is kind of unreasonable to believe that this is an impossible task for the ENTIRE US GOVERNMENT to achieve, ya knows?

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)


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