_Avatar_, directed by James Cameron

and also the script is prob on par with or better than your usual BIG ACTION MOVIE, which is still to say not a good script, but it has only a few howlingly bad moments, which compared to most of the blockbuster shit shoveled out there is pretty good.

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dont know that crazy is what id call you

its srsly a fucking quantum leap in CGI and 3d

I'm all fine with this being the ultimate demo reel for Weta, since they're going to be working with Guillermo del Toro for The Hobbit -- and Smaug will be spectacular.

yeah, think i'm just going to wait till a film takes the new technology and actually does something good with it.

good storytelling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical innovation.

if we were still in b&w but making films as good as the third man, i wouldn't give a toss about how i'd have to use my own imagination to imagine smurf porn.

whole lot of morbsin' going on in this thread

yeah, think i'm just going to wait till a film takes the new technology and actually does something good with it.

hmm, yes, like the _the hobbit_, that's obviously not going to suck.

(tbf I guess the Matrix has ideas, just a lot of stolen ones badly smashed together)

Ha, I meant in like 10 years time when I can finally afford a blu ray player.

because they have no ideas

they clearly have fucking ideas, just not particularly interesting ones.

lotta first year film studenting going on in this thread morelike

ya srsly let yr mindspace percolate fools, movies is not just one thing

hmm, yes, like the _the hobbit_, that's obviously not going to suck

Haha. Was gonna say - ppl hatin on this are sitting on their thumbs waiting for THE HOBBIT??

...

hee hee hee

james cameron has really soldout since his dogme start

i am surprised to not hear more comparisons with district 9 in the reviews i've been reading - both are about evil corporations mistreating aliens and the unlikely humans who go native and basically turn into aliens themselves, then turn against their former corporate masters

and both feature dudes in robo-suits

I have no problem seeing this movie for its visuals. Of course it would be great if it had a good script too, but a not-so-crappy script is fine by me, if it looks cool enough to make me forget the flaws in it. Movies are an visual medium, "good storytelling" is only half of the equation. None of the classic movies are classic only because of their story.

district 9, no boobs

robo-suits are likely to paper over a certain amount of bad script tbh

Cameron should've cut a boobs included version too, so's we can really judge the tech

tuomas- ok but name 5 classic movies that dont depend on a great story

its ok, i'm gonna stop morbzin soon.

ya just stop it plz

you need both.

The End

Cameron should've cut a boobs included version too, so's we can really judge the tech

Who's to say he hasn't?

Oh I'm sure it's out there

gentlemen, calm down, there are moments of sideboob.

Avatar (American Pie Unrated Edition)

Special edition Caligula-style DVD

tuomas- ok but name 5 classic movies that dont depend on a great story

That's why I said "only because of their stories" - most classic movies both look good and have a good story. I'm not expecting Avatar to be a classic movie, but if it's visuals have the sort of sense of wonder and awe I expect them to have, I think I'll be satisfied enough. If you expect every movie to have both great visuals and a great script, you're gonna get disappointed often.

My boy is gonna see this tonight, I will query him on his return

Avatar (American Pie Unrated Edition)

"This one time, on Pandora..."

you need both.

The End

s1ocki OTM

this is reminding me that I never had my "pretty looking movies with terrible stories" film festival (centered around "Sky Captain" and "The Spirit")

yeah basically what tuoma said movies achieve their potency through crazy technology - tho it often takes a narrative to activate their power movies are not people sitting around a campfire telling each other stories - so while pedantic message bord posters and non tv owners everywhere can be all im interested in believable characterization movies are using science to fuck w/their tiny minds

Wait, did you actually see The Spirit, Dan?

ice cr?m droppin cgi

this is reminding me that I never had my "pretty looking movies with terrible stories" film festival (centered around "Sky Captain" and "The Spirit")

― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

WTF was pretty about THE SPIRIT

WTF was pretty about THE SPIRIT

Knowing Dan I think the answer will have something to do with airbrushed cleavage.

maybe i'm just blinded by how spectacularly shitty that movie was

I really like look of plastic all-CGI movies that look more like cartoons with people walking through them than actual movies.

i think i would rather see avatar before i see the spirit
sky captain is in my netflix queue at like 179.
these days, when i want to watch escapist power trip eye candy, i just play video games

intrigued by all the 'next-level fx wau' talk. previews look a bit meh cgi-wise, save that shot of the heli-things blowing the shit out of that floating island.

Of course if Avatar truly had a terrible script, that might distract from watching the pretty visuals. But I think Cameron is competent enough as a filmmaker that he can make this sort of clichéd story run smoothly enough not to distract from getting sucked into the world of the movie.

Take Titanic, for example: of course the script in it is kinda clichéd, but it's the sort of clichéd script that works well enough that when bad things start to happen, you still care about the characters, even they're not particularly original as characters.

Titanic is kind of unwatchable last time i checked in on it.

Also tits

Okay, if you think Titanic is unwatchable, then you probably shouldn't see Avatar. I thought it did what it set out to do very well: it's not a particularly original movie, but it's a great spectacle.

I don't think I've ever sat through more than 15 minutes of Titanic. excruciating.

Of course if Avatar truly had a terrible script, that might distract from watching the pretty visuals. But I think Cameron is competent enough as a filmmaker that he can make this sort of clichéd story run smoothly enough not to distract from getting sucked into the world of the movie.

― Tuomas, Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^

also as far as a purely visual experience the imax theater at the boston museum of science had a trailer that theyd show before every movie when i was a kid that had a helicopter shot flying over the city that was always so much better than anything in whatever animal/space doc they were screening - you were flying over beacon hill and then the camera tilts forward and u feel like youre gonna fall out yr seat - amazing

I called Titanic a Diet Coke movie in that I spent 3.5 hours watching it totally enthralled and left the movie theater raving about how great it was, but as I remembered scenes they became more and more irritating until, within an hour and a half, I pretty much hated the entire thing. It's almost as if the movie was designed to be watched but not remembered.

the whole sinking sequence is pretty rad imo