― hstencil, Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
i love how betty white's (character's) husband had a heart attack during sex! i mean, what are the odds?
― Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
Bea Arthur kicks ass. LITERALLY - I have shared my Bea Arthur story, yes? SHE KNOCKED ME ON MY ASS!
― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
The best episode ever was where Bea Arthur did Jerry Orbach.
― rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
What happened to the gay cook they had on the first epsiode? Did he run off to live with Chuck Cunningham or something?
― rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.nexusdomain.org/pics/misc/BIG%20BANG!.jpg
― Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 12 April 2003 06:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
Said fucking cunt was Betty White. Bea apparently once shat in Betty's shoe - which is another reason WHY I LOVE HER
― j0e (j0e), Saturday, 12 April 2003 11:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 12 April 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
Those who have forgot/blanked it out or are outside the UK are quite privileged.
So Bea had *sex* with Jerry Orbach? Have I got that right? I didn't see that. I thought for a second 'did' meant she impersonated him... which I somehow didn't find remotely surprising...
― ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Saturday, 12 April 2003 13:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 12 April 2003 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 April 2003 21:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 12 April 2003 23:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 12 April 2003 23:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
Bea Arthur in drag---as a woman
― Skottie, Sunday, 13 April 2003 06:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
"The Old Comedy of the Greeks had three stock characters whose interactions constituted the standard plot: the alazon, or imposter and self-deceiving braggart, the eiron, or self-derogatory and understating character, whose contest with the alazon is central to the comic plot; and the bomolochos, or buffoon, whose antics add an extra comic element....Northrop Frye has revived these old terms [and] added a fourth, the agroikos -- the rustic or easily deceived character."
Obviously: Alazon = Blanche; Eiron = Dorothy; Bomolochos = Sophia; Agroikos = Rose
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― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link
The Girls Are Back!
Cast DVD Signing for the Emmy-Award Winning TV Series at Barnes & Noble in NYC November 22nd
WHO: "Golden Girls" cast: Bea Arthur, Betty White, and Rue McClanhan
WHAT: America's favorite girls are together again to celebrate the release of the GOLDEN GIRLS Season 3 on DVD with an in-store signing. Fans can now enjoy another helping of laughter, misadventures, and cheesecake with this laugh-filled season of the Emmy-Award winning TV sitcom -- all 25 episodes in this new complete DVD set. Included are the original and unedited "Golden Moments" episode where the girls share fond memories of their times together, plus hilarious bonus features that prove good comedy never grows old.
WHEN: Tuesday, November 22, 12:30 - 2:30PM
WHERE: Barnes & Noble Booksellers 675 6th Avenue (6th and 22nd) New York, NY 10010
― Be4 4rhtur ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rue ƒur¥ McClananan (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paul Eater (eater), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link
also, my little sister loves this story that when they were casting, they kept saying 'we need like, a betty white type' for rose. then they finally got smart and got betty white to do it!
― tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link
The season five will apparently feature commentaries from Betty White.
― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 4 February 2006 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.laweekly.com/a-considerable-town/12958/that-golden-moment/
no dish on the bea/betty/shit/dressing room incident. I'd like to think that if Bea showed up, she would have told the story without prompting.
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 1 April 2006 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link
like ILX wit
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-09/1/10/enhanced/webdr08/anigif_enhanced-32687-1441116940-14.gif
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/tcXc0LOuZcGzK/giphy.gif
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4tN2MCoJ9K0/WzTcT_rdTEI/AAAAAAAAjVY/qQFQ8zYPCacughpdEYSJVT9nAb557HWNQCLcBGAs/s400/giphy.gif
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link
there's a whole bunch of them, here is the second roll out
https://www.funko.com/blog/article/coming-soon-funkos-cereal-wave-2
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 25 October 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
luv u Elaine Stritch
Stritch entered a room of black suits. “I hope you all don’t mind that I’ve rewritten some of these lines to fit me,” she told them. “I’m Catholic, so I don’t want to say, ‘oh God.’ I can’t stand that.” She tried a curse instead. The suits stared back at her, aghast.
“I’m just glad I got out of there alive,” Stritch said years later. “I hate that show. Who’d be crazy enough to live in Florida with two other women and their mother?”
“For me to work with Betty White every day would be like taking cyanide.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/16/theater/elaine-stritch-broadway-roles.html
https://variety.com/2002/film/columns/stritch-almost-a-golden-girl-1117860373/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 2 November 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link
Classic. Both Stritch and the Golden Girls. I’m glad she botched that audition.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 2 November 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link
https://imgur.com/8eEhf3I
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 June 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link
just leaving this here
https://www.vulture.com/2020/07/the-real-mud-on-golden-girls.html
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
It's really wild how the only difference between a "zoomer shocked to find piece of old media problematic" clickbait article and "Northwestern professor wrestles with TV show that's been off the air for 25 years" is peppering your piece with "As epidemiologist Julia Marcus explains"
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link
No surprise that a sitcom from the 80s would be full of questionable material. I think we even discussed some of its hypocritical queer affirmation above, so no need to re-litigate that; the racial stuff works much the same way (pleas for tolerance on one hand, scoring easy punchlines on the other) but Sophia's many racist/homo- and trans-phobic zings are generally shown to be embarrassing to her daughter (yes, I know, the audience still gets to laugh).
Re: the rape--the show's notorious inconsistency complicates things a little bit, I think, in that we are given so many versions of Michael's conception that it is hard to take any one of them as definitive. In the case of "he must have slipped me something," I'm willing to read this variant on the story--which generally sets up a joke about Stan's lack of sexual prowess and/or Dorothy's insecurity--as a convenient set up to a punchline ("Apparently!"). More to the point, the kind of date rape scenario proposed in this scene likely would not have been uncommon mid-twentieth-century, and would have resulted in a young woman marrying her abuser and carrying around the "shame" of it (I once had a similar combination re: Biff's attempted rape of Lorraine in Back to the Future). If it is shitty of the series to make light of this, I'd argue that there is enough pathos in Dorothy's character (and Bea Arthur's performance) that the viewer isn't unconscious of it.
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link
i find contemporary culture full of questionable material
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 July 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link
Good calls, crypto. (Also, the series has tons of fat jokes and low blows about Dorothy's looks that are impossible to overlook. Still my favorite sitcom.)
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Friday, 3 July 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link
the series has tons of fat jokes
Have Oliver Hardy and Jackie Gleason been cancelled yet?
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link
Fatty Arbuckle sure was.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
never found guilty in 3 trials
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link
A prince of a man, then.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link
But thanks for willfully overlooking the point.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
Really good piece.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link
Saw a couple of episodes of this the other day and they were not very good. One of the storylines was about the possibility that Estelle Getty was not Bea Arthur's real mother and that's when I realized they're supposed to be Italian - the fear of having actual Jewish characters writ large.
― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
designing women is better anyway
― clouds, Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link
You take that back!
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
XD
― clouds, Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
One of the storylines was about the possibility that Estelle Getty was not Bea Arthur's real mother
IIRC that's a later season episode. Even a lot of die-hard fans have their issues with the last couple seasons.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
That episode sucks.
Some gems in the later seasons: I love the murder mystery weekend, Dorothy singing "What'll I Do," and Alan King as Mel Bushman. But yeah, it was definitely where the show's famously sloppy writing got even more ridiculous.
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
On a GG recap podcast I used to listen to until I realized I couldn't stand one of the hosts anymore, one of their guests made the bold assertion that he preferred the later seasons for their "more flexible sense of reality." Which I took to mean, yes, sloppiness.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
But yes, the "What'll I Do" ep is top 3.
That's the same reaction some fans have about the last couple Rosanne episodes
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
Yes, but which series had more indefensible fat jokes?
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
The Cosby Show.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link
At the same time, Golden Girls had more punchlines about The Cosby Show than The Cosby Show had indefensible fat jokes.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link
I prefer the latter seasons of Seinfeld because of their more flexible sense of reality.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
btw all silent film buffs now call Fatty Arbuckle "Roscoe" (as his colleagues did)
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 July 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link
I wish that more film buffs were silent.
― pplains, Friday, 17 July 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link
disappointed that a ctrl+f for "rattan" yields zero (0) results itt
― the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 17 July 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link
we're all disappointed in life from time to time, but we find the hope to carry on.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 17 July 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link
Oh please, it’s wicker.
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 17 July 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link
I saw a bumper sticker for “St. Olaf College”; took a pic and sent it to my wife, thinking it was a GG joke… she was like, “Yeah, that’s a real school.”
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Sunday, 19 February 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/14/theater/tituss-burgess-moulin-rouge.html
Those four ladies and the writers together made television magic. It’s like a fine wine: The jokes somehow are even funnier now, or I’m just getting older and maybe I understand the references a little more. On some level, every creator can reference it as a source of inspiration. For me, TV’s never been funnier.
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 15:27 (seven months ago) link