vaginas are not clown cars

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well their kid will probably be less intelligent because his parents are not inquisitive or curious, you know?
i don't even want to have a kid, this is just an interesting problem to me. the level of observation that goes on, beyond scientific things. it's the same thing that provides a context for a woman with 19 kids to have a tv show and have the news announce every time she has another. and the octomom. and all the scary myths about crackbabies.
interesting article btw http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200904/case-against-breastfeeding

and abbott said not to derail the thread over this ; )

6 iq points pfft

To be honest I don't know and I'm not even sure we'll know for sure because so many factors have an influence.

Yeah six iq points. Whether I was bf or not, it wouldn't have brought me over the 100 treshold. lol

Derelict, the FASD thing is close to home: my grandmother was an alcoholic. Drank during pregnancy. But it didn't fuck up my dad too much. I mean, he doesn't have FAS syndrome. But it did render him infertile (right after I was born actually). Well, that's what my mom said once. It's not talked about in great lengths.

BTW nineteen kids is mad. I mean not in a negative kinda way. Actually to be honest, maybe it is negative: there's only so much attention you can give to a child. And I do think that you can't do that when you have 19 kids.

But you know, fuck it, it's her body and she can do whatever she wants with it. But somebody should tell her that you can have sex and not create babies. lol

Is 5 or 6 points maybe a more significant margin/jumpstart for babbys?

http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/files/2008/06/chalkboard-with-breastfeeding.jpg

i feel ok passing judgment on her in general! i think she and jim-bob are a force for evil in the world tbqh

You know there are some people who cannot breastfeed, despite desperately wishing to. A close friend of mine is one of these people. Repeated bouts of mastitis meant it was out of the question and the infection/antibiotics meant she couldnt even express to bottle.

She was distraught at this, and anyone suggesting she's a bad mother for doing so would quite rightly be punched in the balls, it makes her FURIOUS when "well meaning" people go on about how impt it is.

Not breastfeeding is probably one of the least questionable things the Duggars do.

yeah definitely

You know there are some people who cannot breastfeed, despite desperately wishing to. A close friend of mine is one of these people. Repeated bouts of mastitis meant it was out of the question and the infection/antibiotics meant she couldnt even express to bottle.

She was distraught at this, and anyone suggesting she's a bad mother for doing so would quite rightly be punched in the balls, it makes her FURIOUS when "well meaning" people go on about how impt it is.

― millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:26 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a bummer, and those ppl should def be punched in the balls. however, i'm still with derelict: breastfeeding is strongly recommended when it is not contraindicated (tautology lol). otoh, recommendations are only recommendations, and no one should feel like a bad mother if they'e using a bottle, imo.

i wouldn't wanna do it. sounds inconvenient 2 the extreme but that's what kids are i guess amirite

So, odds are what, she's had at least two gay kids by now?

Actually, if I'm remembering the research right, aren't the odds increasing dramatically with every male child?

GBX on the money re breastfeeding. I firmly believe it's the best infant food etc. but the way women who choose not to breastfeed (for whatever reason) are treated is ridiculous.

The new baby was born at 25 weeks at 1 lb 6 oz. :( There's going to be more to worry about than just breastfeeding vs. formula.

oh god

because i wonder if most women's bodies would just stop accepting any more pregnancies at a certain point.

I'd think evolution would suggest the answer is "no."

right, i have heard of evolution

but 19 kids. in 22 years or something like that.

...seems superhuman to me. she might be the lance armstrong of childbearing.

Does she have a lot of competition in this arena?

shub-niggurath

googled for record most children born to one woman and the answer is 69. with lots of multiple births.

oh damn that sounds so horrible O_O 69 kids!!!!

someone should have said 69 to her before she started

ha it was in 18th century russia. i suspect given the choice she would not have had *quite* that many

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feodor_Vassilyev
it's true if wikipedia says so right

I wonder if once you're on your 20 something kid, labor just becomes a little inconvenience and nbd. The kids probably just sorta slip right out by that point.

Seriously though after so many kids I wonder what the state of her uterus/cervix is like and whether that might have contributed to such an early arrival this time.

the mind reels

here's an article! http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1604457

but this one had nothing to do with her uterus, she had a c-section because of pre-eclampsia after gall bladder surgery

i guess being pregnant is bad for your gall bladder

Ahhh, I hadn't read anything about that other than on this thread so I didn't know why she delivered so soon.

yeah i can't turn myself away sometimes :/

HUGE MULTIPAROUS is kind of a great term.

Feodor Vassilyev (Russian: Фёдор Васильев) (1707–1782) was a peasant from Shuya, Russia. Though not noteworthy himself, his first wife (whose name is unknown) set the record for most children birthed by a single woman. She gave birth to total of 69 children; however, few other details are known of her life, such as her date of birth or death. She gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, 7 sets of triplets and 4 sets of quadruplets between 1725 and 1765, in a total of 27 births. 67 of the 69 children born survived infancy.

ah my second wife ol whats-her-face had like 70 kids its true

69? Why can't I stop giggling at that nr. Oh right yeah.

clownar vehicularity of the vagina may be hereditary:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43422853/ns/today-parenting/

#20 is expected in April 2012 !

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clown cars are not vaginas

God, there's nothing more revoltingly precious than naming your kids with the same letter.

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Go and sit on the stairs!

Oh god a friend of mine posted a mini-rant on Facebook about how selfish this family is and how awful it is when the world is overpopulated as it is. Wow, I could never have anticipated the virtiol she got for that, like I've never seen so many torqued off women angrily firing off missives in ALL CAPS about "how dare you dictate how many children a family has" blah blah.

Well, label any set of people for being 'selfish', particularly on Facebook, and that's what will happen.

It was more just the quantity and the tone of the responses that surprised me.

There are reasons against having a lot of kids, but ultimately it is up to the couple to decide the amount of kids they have (or not have). It is their choice. I would not ever want to be in her place. I love kids, but I would never have 20 kids. There's a limit (in my opinion): you can only give so much attention. I remember my gran once saying that her mother had way too many and that it must have been hell raising'em all. (About 12 in total.) My cousin said she felt lost out since she has about 5 siblings (?).

One thing my wife and I have in common is if you go back a few generations, there's one family that had a large number of children. Making the 'family tree' chart unmanageably wide.

I think Queen Victoria had a few kids yeah?

Anyway, back to the clown cars... or is it, um,