marketing of masculinity

learning how to build a scooter is timeless, imho

I know, my dad built one out of a bicycle frame and some small engine when he was like 15? And then went on to have Vespas and later, cars that he rebuilt. I mean, why was I not that awesome at 15? I had a dune buggy, I guess, but I didn't built it myself.

ok u had a dune buggy???

?????

i will remember this next time u r complaining abt something on this bord

Yeah, as my first car. Orange frame, no body panels, street legal, 4 seats. Engine & transmission out of a VW bus. I drove it spring & summer for a couple of years. And the family took it dune-running in an approved "park" nearby. Learned to drive a stick in that thing, which was awesome b/c it was geared for a whole VAN and the buggy weighed nothing, so actually it was very forgiving.

Hey, sometimes Christians have fun too.

Just not too often, or they might get used to it.

gdamn i dreamed of dune buggies

just enough to let them know what heaven might be like

wife tells me her dad did similar, just sub vw bug for the bus

But even w a windshield, the wind speed was BRUTAL over about 35 or 40 mph, so it was just for tooling around locally. Funny, I never tried wearing a helmet....

M, is your wife Midwestern/conservative in her origins, too?

texas, but her dad is pretty conservative

http://mjmbooks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Speed-Buggy.jpg

so jealous that Laurel's first car could talk and solve mysteries

xpost her dad is just a total gearhead. both her parents are bikers, and he's a wrecker driver by trade.

holy shit i forgot about fucking speed buggy until just now

that seems like an experience one would remember forever

LOL. adjective/modifier, not verb

I'm going to write a book about spending a year trying to learn to do all of the things in all of those 100 things a man should know how to do books.

1. How to fuck a talking dune buggy

but would any man just happen to know how to do all those things if those lists did not exist? "you have been judged and found wanting, sissypants" is the subtext i get there

Kind of? Then again, remember the pic you posted of you having to tie a friend's tie? See, he should know how to do that.

i feel dumb when i don't know how to do something

And not to get way Fight Club or anything, but there are a lot of fatherless men out there who didn't exactly take up the mantle of "man of the house.'

Myself very much among them.

it's more like "you've been judged and found wanting, human being"

can change a tire, can't tie a tie

and I'm fully ok w/ that b/c ties are constricting in the neckal area

can barely do either one, myself. didn't know how to tie a tie until i was like 28? 29?

the idea that i should know how to split logs for firewood or hang drywall just because i have a dick AND that my masculinity should be called into question for wanting that knowledge is just weird -- i can learn how if and when the need arises!

learn how to tie a tie ffs

its like really easy

it has nothing to do with your dick elmo

well splitting logs can, but it's really difficult

Huh. Maybe my Christian-y childhood came in handy in this one way. When I got old enough that a clip-on became unseemly, Dad showed me the standard half-Windsor, and now it's like tying my shoes.

tieing, even

Splitting logs for firewood is actually rather fun. From what I've heard, hanging drywall is less so.

Linden Avenue Stomp

yeah it's sounds kinda. . .hard

Yeah seriously - the drywall in my apartment is already hung, and using firewood here would be a bit dangerous.

wait

never mind

i can learn how if and when the need arises!

Okay first of all YES YOU CAN, because you're open to the idea that you will be ABLE to do those things if you have to. Some people have already resolved to themselves that they will never be able to, so they won't.

But sometimes when the need arises it's kind of too late to learn? Dry-walling isn't really an emergency activity obv although it's less cool if you do it wrong the first 3 times and have to re-do it while your domestic partner watches spackle dry...but the willingness to do so is a v useful, commendable trait, imo. But like changing a tire at night in the rain or tying a tie when you're nervous and already late for something....these are not when you want to be "learning" things.

already ignored, don't worry

re: splitting logs.. why would one need to learn how to chop something in half... i mean, it's quite hard to not know what you need to do???

that was meant to be with dan's post. anyway, i think learning news things, all the time, is useful as a human being, and it's also something you're supposed to do. hanging drywall could come in handy sometime, but if it's not for you no big deal right?

i just made my first pie crust from scratch--totally awesome experience, will do it again. has nothing to do with my masculinity/femininity, it has everything to do with trying to be a good huan being

human

Protip: if you ever need logs split, ken, please ask someone else to do it for you. If you like having 4 limbs, that is.

we should be tearing down walls not building them fyi

definitely would take the protip and not cut my limb off.