marketing of masculinity

I think he was saying luna's keys got locked in the trunk when he was going to meet her at a bar

I see little need to make this thread darker than it was to start with.

did she have a lot of junk in her trunk?

"jalabi chalabi"?? wtf

considered but refrained from saying something about that

but yes

wtf

I had a huge multiparagraph post that I wrote out on the train on my phone, but I had forgotten to log in and so the post disappeared. An attempted reconstruction:

Maybe one of the things that has pointed men away from dressing well is a need to feel frugal.

I googled the Missoni cardigan mentioned above and the garment costs multiple hundreds of dollars. I wouldn't pay over a hundred for anything other than a business suit, a winter coat, or shoes. I expect for many even that would seem overpriced. Ultimately, "dressing nicely" means wearing clothing of little utility in comparison with its cost.

I don't know to what extent this idea might be portrayed in advertising, but the thought struck me this morning and I kinda wanted to stick up for myself and the other slobs.

Maybe one of the things that has pointed men away from dressing well is a need to feel frugal.

Important corrollary to this is that haven't average household incomes decreased significantly since the Cary Grant postwar jetsetter era hailed above?

I wouldn't pay over a hundred for anything other than a business suit, a winter coat, or shoes.

not even shoes, tbh

good pair of jeans, tho, maybe

I wouldn't pay over a hundred fifty quid for anything other than a business suit, a winter coat, or shoes.

In relative terms, clothes used to be a bit more expensive 50 years ago so thrift came in the guises of a) more conservative dress sense and b) higher quality basics in the middle of the market - good wool suits etc. You'd spend the equivalent of a month's wages on a winter coat but wear it for 10 years minimum.

That is interesting info. Thanks, Suzy.

It's true.

Which is why the suit would be down the pawnbrokers, and back out on payday.

Yeah I don't mean to be all KIDS THESE DAYS but back-to-school always used to be about one pair of shoes (and maybe one pair of sneakers) plus capsule wardrobe and is now about buying in bulk at Target/J Crew plus a gazillion pairs of cheapo/less cheapo shoes, depending on your income - and natural fabrics. That attitude carried on through life. My grandparents spent a great deal of their '70s/'80s small talk whining about synthetic fabrics and the false economies/tackiness of same.

This is why all of my Mad Men-era clothes inherited from various female relatives stay in perfect condition unless the moths get 'em, and why it's difficult to find good men's vintage suits - the jackets are always fine but dudes wore the butts/sacks out of the trousers.

Sacks, Suzy?

Unmentionable Man Problem, Mentioned: scrotal rub against fabric wearing out the fabric over time.

^ this one knows too much, she must be destroyed.

I hated the scrotal rub until I discovered boxer briefs.

God they must have had large scrota back then!

Dangly bits need support! Ask any titty-bearing human.

gotta be honest boxer briefs ain't done it for me, that's why i'd consider spending hard € on jeans these days.

aaaaannnd right back on track- masculinity is when your balls wear through DENIM RAWR

These are serious issues for the vintage clothing savant in your life. Also scrotal rub v. jeans FITE explains the absence of large stockpiles of big E Levi's.

big P Levi's tbh RAWR

...and what is truly awful is that camel-toeing has been known to have the same outcome in women, although there may be less locker-room pride involved than HAY GUYS, MY POWERBALLS DEFEATED WRANGLER.

"scrotal rub" itself is a marketing phrase for what is otherwise known as "chub rub". but whatever makes you feel better, thunderthighs.

a woman's pride come from sewing back together the jeans that were worn out by their man's balls.

so they they can wear them out again RAWR

Even though I've never been a victim of it, I am amazed that I've never heard the term 'chub rub' before.

i had a big chub rub problem in like 8th grade

talcum powder yall

I've never heard it either, and anyway doesn't "chub" mean something at least slightly other than dangle?

Depends on the angle of the dangle

Angle of dangle weighed against Heat of meat. Apparently the University of Colorado did a study.

http://www.agmates.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sea-level-graph-450.jpg

Steer clear of this Jason guy, is my advice.

the angle of the dangle = the heat of the meat x the mass of the ass

Speaking of dangle angle:

http://www.kilchristcastle.com/Kintyre-Map2.gif

Ass. The Other Variable.

(New marketing slogan.)

otoh the rub of the chub is directly proportionate to the weight of the gait

I've never looked at the contents of that dangerous book for boys but from 2nd-hand impressions it seems like a juvenile version of the "X things every man must know" lists published in books or men's magazines. and then there's the subset of "X things every dad should know" lists.

http://www.randomhouse.com.au/systempicts/9780224086295.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3248199882_3ed6759278.jpg

xp author's name too close to 'gay marriage', fail.

1) dont touch yrself in public

Oh, poo.

There is a generational need for some of these books TBH, just thinking of all the guys I know that didn't have activity-based quality time with their divorced dads but do have all this collective false nostalgia to pour into their own young families.

I am encouraged by the prominent presence of an ironing board on the cover.

It's not long enough to adequately iron the trousers.

Eh... it's one of those that hang from the top of the door. You make do.

More important to have an iron than an ironing board.