what the fuck am i getting myself into with this grad school stuff

How long is course, LJ? (sorry, this is probably already answered somewhere, but I couldn't find it on a quick skim)

It is 9 months. So it'll all be over in June! Or was that July? Probably still worth pursuing. Their aim is that within 3 weeks of the course ending, we'll all be in employment as journalists. o_O

The number of copywriting jobs I've seen advertised anywhere in Britain = LOW, sadly. There just isn't a market for it. My beef with this course is that it's teaching me not a great deal that I didn't know before, even if it is giving me 'all sorts of opportunities' to get involved with a business I am becoming rapidly repulsed by. But I guess a qualification is a qualification.

I would be very happy to write other peoples' shit up for cash. Sadly, they're writing it up themselves for the most part. Maybe this course will provide me with an unexpected opportunity. We'll see.

lj that wasn't a jab at a life of privilege, really! i guess it's more that i think worrying about the moral tension created by trying to shoehorn "individual artistic expression" into a socialist utopia or w/e isn't sufficiently problematic to outweigh other, more quotidian moral conundrums. like, you know, tipping, or masturbation in the presence of an infant.

btw having spent the better part of my afternoon doing a write-up on a dude who was less than a month old, i can assure that infants are just feeding and pooping tubes with googly eyes stuck on. just, you know, fyi

xp no, they're not writing it themselves! my sis used to work at [A LARGE COMPANY IN MN] and all she did was edit FDA applications (which are thousands of pages long). i think she even got her name on a few papers, simply because, after all the SCIENCE was said and done (w/o her), she was left to write it all up for publication!

good for your sister!

lj this is semi serious but the answer is to come to america and write for the semi-literate yanks

http://scholarman.soganicmusic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/comingtoamerica.jpg

and when u do, come in the regalia illustrated above

dunno if we could handle LJ tbh

that is actually something i would do x70billion given half a chance...i definitely want to live over your way at some stage in my life, maybe when yr country has gotten more socialist lol joeks maybe when i can afford the air fare and have guaranteed employment

also GBX ur otm re: me overthinking my delicate moral positions esp regarding societal contribution vs. personal artistic expression...also your sister's job sounds decent, although if it was too much of a 24/7 thing i wd probably die of sad

get a job fooling minnesotans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40

LJ

this seems useful advice:

seriously - communications/PR/outreach for some sort of non-profit/advocacy group sounds like something you would be good at and find fulfilling.

― sarahel, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:38 PM

you like writing and communicating / persuading / debating with people

have a look through

PR Jobs in the UK
http://www.prweekjobs.co.uk/

even your course mentions, public relations and communication

http://www.city.ac.uk/study/courses/arts/science-journalism.html
It prepares you for a wide range of professional science journalism careers in print, broadcast and new media as well as, public relations and communication.

hmmmmmmmmm. that's possibly not what i had in mind. but i won't completely discount it. yet. if i do pr it has to be for a worthy cause, not a worthless product.

print is dead, broadcast is a possibility although it is very vapid and everybody is on coke, and new media is not something that one should really be paid for

what about radio

get a job with the BEEB

Sure I'd be a radio DJ or a sports commentator but I've gone down the wrong paths to get there. Others are ahead. I've taken the wrong turnings and there's always someone who's gotten there first.

...

I don't even want a dream job (yet)! These things can wait.

my point here was that these can't both be right. you're what, 22? you haven't gone down the wrong path for anything yet.

do all your shopping at Wal-mart!

radio is probably the one area of media i'd really like to get involved with; i just think that there are so many people wanting to get in there and some of them are probably extremely pushy

i'd love to work for, say, resonance fm or some other arts station. the beeb? pft! gr i need to be less defeatist. but they are all on coke.

no one ever got a job in radio by not applying

pretty sound advice, max

friend of mine works at the bbc world service and showed me around one day. there is a pub in the basement!

tho i guess there's a pub in every british basement, really

max is like my spiritual fader

there's a pub in every cupboard under the stairs, keeps the moths busy

i secretly want to do radio, now that i think about it

i am doing a radio module on my course next term, actually

hmm maybe i do not feel so bad after all.

you should be an announcer on bbc world radio so we can all hear you

flattered

wait

not you

ev can join me, we will be the dream team ^_^

every time i propose that i say 'it's one o'poppage in the morning, GMT!' for the benefit of sundry ilxors he will fix me a glare and i will shelve the wheeze

ok deal

i have a v mellifluous voice i will have u know

we will cake their ears in the dew of our discourse

i have a very refined english voice and an eloquent expression which makes it p-surprising when i say something completely bizarre/twisted/dark...i'm not gonna lie, this is very enjoyable to do

no doubt.

something tells me there might be a 5th motivation

to entertain, and not just for egotistical purposes.

yes! i think that's kinda what i was getting at. the idea that others are enjoying and being enriched by one's work, for their sakes. an artistic discourse. why did i drink that tin of beer

three stages of what is commonly reputed to be 'the very best education money can buy' have proven each as shallow as the last; at least i met some good people along the way

~feeling u~

good to know that I am not the only early 20s recent grad being crushed by the ~real world~ on this board

anyways I'm pretty sure the answer to this quarterlife crisis is to find and marry a rich heir/heiress and make them finance everything you want to do

; )

yeah, that seemed like the answer when i was in my early twenties too, ;_;

dyao ur an excellent nu addition 2 ilx - maybe the best of 2009 - and we will totes get thru this together

btw this isn't a quarterlife crisis, it's a thirdlife crisis. i'm taking 65. then it's hunter s thompson or i die anyway from nature

it would be a terrible fucking shame, nay, waste, for you to wear those teeth only as far as 65.

seriously, if you go hunter, aim above the nose and i will claim ur teeth

aw ~thankin u~ louis

http://www.hindmansettlement.org/files//images/handshake.jpg

my lower teeth are slightly wonky, my upper teeth almost worthy of america, so i will honour that request

dyao i accept the shake and speaking of hands over the next few weeks will ilxsearch the word 'dexterity' before adding to yr wonderful thread; there is much that is dextrous in this world

also sinister

shaking w/ left hand = either masonic or too busy w/ right hand already