Longtime ILXors - how has this board changed over time?

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oh and it was a dig at ken c's photoshopped arms

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ie, a joke

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh - can I make a person plea here (it seems as good a place as any) not to use my full real name anymore. I guess surname alone isn't too bad. I've just changed my mind about googlibility, based on a couple of minor things that have happened to me. Nothing serious. Ta.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, awesome.

xpost, no prob alba.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

okay jessica i mean dude with alarm clock!

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Ally: cause he only explained his reaction to things now, and didn't contrast it to his reactions to things then. Perhaps you, being around way back then, know how he felt about ILE then, but he didn't make it explicit to the rest of us. Only one end of the comparison was made. He said his thumbs were tired. Fine, okay.

oops (Oops), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

For the record, to make my position on "nu-ILX" and whether or not it bothers me clear, the only times I have hiatused from ILX have had to do with one of two things:

1) personal, unwarranted harrassment from a definite "longtime ILXor" (who seems gone though perhaps posting this will bring it)
2) having fights with Tom over things I've posted to ILX and me throwing a regrettable stroppy fit and doing things like abolishing ILX from my computer, deleting my photo archive, etc to spite him.

So, to me, a longtime ILXor, the board has definitely changed, just as I have changed a lot, and because of both of those things (plus the two mentioned above) I use the board less now, but, hell, I'm like one of 10 people who doesn't seem to dislike Jon Williams, I'm certainly not going to dislike your average ILXor. For a while it was a bit bothersome to me, because I no longer felt I could use the board for the purposes I was originally using it for, but pretty soon I realized that was quite childish and I really didn't care very much and like the occasional distraction it might offer now.

xpost no, I am never going to defend the proposition that everything old is good, mookieproof, far from it, I am wholly in advocation of deleting the entire archive, truth be told.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and Alba, I apologize for use of name!

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

You are all goading me so much I can see I'm going to have to do the comparison tomorrow and I'll end up proving myself wrong or something.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

N., I was being defensive myself. I've been sensitive lately.

And your naked penis contribution is monumental!

The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I want 'His naked penis contribution was monumental' to be my epitaph.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

will the comparison tomorrow have to be 50 thread titles long?

ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to apologize for my lengthy drift on this thread at any rate, I'm in the process of writing two lengthy papers on disparate topics and my mind is in cocaine mode or something, you are all lucky I am not drawing comparisons to the work of Albert Camus or something.

That is all from me. Goodnight, sleep tight, and for the record everyone on this thread is ok by me. *salute*

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

okay so i tried to write a defense--but maybe ilx *is* worse now. i would certainly believe it, i guess i'm just getting defensive cause i'm newer. so, then, how to be better?

ps N/alba/AllyzaySC/etc don't go!

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, you all rule

Whatever the public wants, ken.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

you are all lucky I am not drawing comparisons to the work of Albert Camus or something

"Posting on the thread
with a gun in my hand..."

*hides*

Good luck on yer papers.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, hit me up with some Camus comparisons!

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

this place has gotten a bit dummer, not cuz of 'nuilxors r so stupid' or anything like that, just that losing mark sinker and frank kogan and felicity and j0hn d and not nearly as much sterling clover and nabisco and ally and dave q and momus come to think of it as once was has taken a hit on this place. the bulls haven't recovered from losing jordan and pippen either. i can't rely on ilm reliably exposing me to something i'm going to play the fuck out of the next week nearly as much as i used to - bye bye matos, ethan trife, and nate patrin and tom ewing, minna, diamond, yancey, jbr and jess don't post nearly like they used to (you can throw these folx in the smarties pile too but these were people i specifically definitely paid attention to when they talked about music). man i don't even want to know what i'd think of ilm minus chuck eddy (who's a nuilxor!) and haikudiffer. this place has gotten bigger too, it definitely seems like there's ALOT more people than once was which turns it a bit into a blur.

i remember when people would argue and 'debate' in long paragraphs - that don't happen anymore and i suspect alot of that's due to the growth of the place, people don't want to get caught in the xposting.

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 30 July 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

In part I'm trying to redress the long paragraph conundrum by balancing more work between the FT blogs here, and in a couple of cases intentional throwing in cross-references -- that way one audience which may no longer be here but is there can comment and vice versa.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

alba is dastoor?

I'm confused.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 31 July 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

opps, sorry didn't read the whole thread, so didn't deliberately type whole name thing.

maybe someone could blank it out or something.

oh dear :/

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 31 July 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The 2 recent posts from blount & ally pretty much sum up my feelings w/r/t this.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

blount's list of those who are no longer on ILX much is depressing the hell out of me.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

that plus hangover are putting me in "new year's resolution" mode.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah it's pretty grim isn't it.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Blount said what I was thinking.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought it was kinda ironic that Kogan was the one who got me to hang out on ILX and soon after he stopped showing up as much. Which is fine. He has his reasons.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

That 80's throwback thread on ILM is just silly and not really a reflection of the state of the nation or anything. It's more of a friday afternoon blowing off steam kinda thing. I actually hope there are more threads like that in the future (don't shoot me). A little loopiness can wake you up and ILM could use a little waking up. (just one person's opinion. and if I have been bored by ILM lately it probably has more to do with that list of people who never/hardly ever post than anything else.)

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

the '80s throwback thread at least had some genuine interaction

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

exactly.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

On old ILX we had many console each other about poor parenting incidents threads.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 31 July 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

if it's not prying or nosy...why did Matos split?

new kid on the board, Saturday, 31 July 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I believe he wanted to concentrate more on his editing work? But I'm not positive about that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Almost all the old ILXors who have left have or are involved in pretty active blogs now though, so it's not so bad.

Dan I., Saturday, 31 July 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

if it's not for you, don't post or read as much as you used to. i check in maybe two or three times a week for 20 mins or so and it's more than enough.

jess, Sunday, 1 August 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

that said, as blount mentioned above, there's such an insane turnover of new posters, injokes, recurring threads, etc. that after the break i made i already feel like i'd have to relearn the whole thing. and we're talking like a month or so. so i probably won't.

jess, Sunday, 1 August 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

it just seems like so much more work than it used to! (and it almost never used to seem like work at all)

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 1 August 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the old ilm/x seemed to make a bit more sense (marginally), the new one is more dada (to be charitable) or pointless (to be uncharitable)... or maybe i'm just losing my taste for it. it's so hard to say if it's me or the place itself. anyway, i think it was a lot more brit, which was fun as a north american to observe & play with. also there was a bit less traffic, so people with pretty varying tastes (like, say, me & jess or ethan) would be kind of giddy when we discovered a shared love of a certain beatnuts lyric or whatever - weird little feelings of kinsmanship and kismet were more common - i guess what i mean is people were less dug in, less entrenched ... maybe, i dunno really... cause i still got pissed off when someone told me how horrible my taste was then too - but maybe i used to get pissed off because I liked them and respected their writing about music so I was mad that I hadn't been able to make a better case myself, now i get pissed off because i think they're dicks

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 1 August 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

but this feeling now may well be more of a realization that i don't care about these arguments much at all any more than any insurgence of dicks.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 1 August 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

This entire thread has depressed me in ways you do not know.

And BTW, I try my hardest to at least put up a facade of being intelligent, of having something of substance in my cranium, but honestly, when it comes to music, I'm just coming out of a period where I was actively avoiding any "new to me" music and only relying on my musical comfort foods for aural nourishment. And before that, I went through a period where I was only doing that which would allow me to survive. I listened to my Ultravox and Visage and Japan (to name the most "obscure" artists I was into at the time) and assorted various '80s artists and such only to the point to where it wouldn't interfere with my schoolwork, homework, club and organization duties, volunteer work, and nascent social life. In fact, even though I seem like I'm a busy individual these days and am in fact living a fully grownup existence, I've got more free time these days to devote to music listening than I ever had as a teenager.

So that's why I can't contribute worth a shit on ILM, unless you count the few times I post something and it ends up getting ignored or glossed over. That's why I'm forced to stick to the "chatty" threads. I lived to exist for such a fucking long period of time that it's only been recently that I've been able to expand my horizons, and I was kinda hoping on having that happen by frequenting this forum. So I'm fucking sorry I'm one of the idiotic masses around here. I'm just trying my hardest, time and again, and it seems like it's all for nought.

Oh, and I think the longtime posters who have chosen to drop out of sight around these parts have done those of us who really haven't been here all that long a GREAT disservice. Every single one of you oldtimers have contributed in some way or another to getting every single one of us (relative) newbies to come out of the darkness of lurkdom and start posting here. We don't get to hear their fresh perspective on any number of things. That's really unfair of them.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 1 August 2004 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Dee you know I love you, but you take things WAY too personally. There's really no reason why anything in this thread (or anything in the whole of ILX) should depress you.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 1 August 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, oops. I just feel like so many people around here don't really consider you of substance unless you're a superstud knowledge-wise and I don't really have anything to offer in that area, unless you're curious about San Antonio, in which case you could just look up one of the posts I've already made about my hometown, end of story. (Oh, and um, Those Guys You're Probably Already Sick And Tired Of Hearing About, even though I'm really a disillusioned fan of theirs.) Also, various events throughout the day and tonight have dredged up some things I guess I should've just compartmentalized and kept far away from this forum.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 1 August 2004 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(I'll just be going now before I contribute more ammo to the haters....)

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 1 August 2004 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)

hey Dee, it's not true, I have like zero indepth knowledge on anything but I think I get on okay here. You write thoughtful posts and come across as an interesting person, so don't stop let threads like this get you down :) We've been navel-gaving since day one, so the truth is ILX hasn't changed that much at all.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I just feel like so many people around here don't really consider you of substance unless you're a superstud knowledge-wise

This is true, but it's (a nearly inevitable) consequence of the mode of interaction a message board allows. One's intelligence and one's humor are basically the only traits that are able to conveyed and, therefore, appreciated. (but even on those two qualities, you're selling yourself short)

oops (Oops), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Charm and personality are imagined around here, not ever established. Until you meet the person, that is, which is why FAPS are so important. Which is why i say, yuo need to come to at least one Chicago FAP, oops, you ass.

Kenan (kenan), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

That'd ruin my mystique and shit.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh huh.

Are you aware of the fact that whenever somone says "Chicago FAP!" there's this eternal protracted debate as to when and where and why and how? If you said "Chicago FAP!" tonight, we'd all pretty much bend to your will, short of driving to whatever backwater you live in.

Kenan (kenan), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I just feel like so many people around here don't really consider you of substance unless you're a superstud knowledge-wise

With ILM, you can search the archives for seemingly every band you can think of and come up with several threads devoted to them. So, the bands that almost everybody knows have already been C/D & S/D'ed to death, thus, most of the new threads are related to more obscure bands in sub-sub-genres and relatively few people are able to participate.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 1 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The bad thing, about ilx, is that Alba has never really liked me.

the bellefox, Sunday, 1 August 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)


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