another maniacal Armond White review, this time "Fahrenheit 9/11"

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Cassandra’s Dream isn’t prophecy, it’s decadence.

wtf does this even mean

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

agreed, slocks.

the thing i liked the least about zodiac (the uselessness of the rdj character) seems less and less offensive to me every day.

remy bean, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

twbb >>>> zodiac (which i liked a lot) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no country for old men (which is doomed to mediocrity by coens' unimaginative fidelity to mediocre source material)

-- tipsy mothra, Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:55 PM

u mad doggie

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

so mad

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

i just love that the characters never meet and you barely even notice that.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

man he really stuck it to dargis and scott there!!

omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

The Wind That Shakes The Barley was just okay, but I'll definitely take it over No Country and (most especially) Zodiac.

milo z, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

i mean i really liked wind shakes but i cant say i loved it. maybe i just cant fully commit to any kind of art that has no sense of humour whatsoever.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

Imagine a world where every ILE film thread turns into a debate about the relative merits of Bamako, Offside and Away from Her.

I've only read NCfOM, but it didn't impress me as being solely about fate. I have no problem with genre pieces where people do stupid shit, especially in Texas.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

you should see it morbz. and on the big screen.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

offside rules though but you know that.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

no country is ok, competently handled, i didn't hate it. but it's the 5th-best mccarthy book i've read and the, what, 4th- or 5th-best coen film i can think of. its acclaim really does mystify me, but so do lots of things.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

(coen movies i like better: fargo, blood simple, raising arizona, the ladykillers) (ok kidding about the ladykillers. but not kidding about the big lebowski.)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

i just cant fully commit to any kind of art that has no sense of humour whatsoever.

-- s1ocki, Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:24 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

otm

gbx, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

THE LADYKILLERS?!?!?

You are mad.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

xp: yeah, Cillian Murphy shoulda been braying about milkshakes just before he was executed. Instant hype and Oscar noms to follow.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

(ladykillers was a joke)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

you know that's not what i mean.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

wind shakes was so... "DO YOU SEE? GET IT?? IRAQ MUCH??"

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

spoilers, yo

omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

"wind shakes was so... "DO YOU SEE? GET IT?? IRAQ MUCH??""

I neither saw or cared much about that parallel.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

at the end when it cuts straight to black and the "IRAQ MUCH?" title card comes up... chills.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

anyway like i said i did like it a lot... but loved it? think it was GREAT? not really.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

ha, s1ocki, if that's your biggest objection to Barley -- it was Armond's too!!

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

NCFOM is better than Fargo. Fargo's too clever clever by a half.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! xp

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

i think no country probably their best.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Brother-on-brother stories are as old as civil wars, I didn't really see Iraq at all.

My problem with Barley is that it wasn't humorless so much as emotionless.

milo z, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

ncfom isn't half-clever enough.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

I admit I've only begun to think that in the past 10 years. When I saw it initially I thought it was brilliant so I may end up feeling like that about NCFOM in 2020.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

fargo sucks.

omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

"ncfom isn't half-clever enough."

It doesn't need to be.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

boring and annoying. i used to kinda like it, too.

omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

xp
Haven't seen anything I loved or thought was great from '07 yet. Or '06 (Inland Empire closest).

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

what does that even mean (re: clever/half-clever/whatever)

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

i have no idea.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

but among the things i think no country is not enough: clever, interesting, imaginative, smart. funny. scary. sad.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

(which are all things i think twbb and zodiac have plenty of.)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Zodiac is a good big-budget cop show (Armond thinks the voices of the men inhabiting it are too high).

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

no it's something more than that. you're not going to get away with dismissing a movie for its genre on this board, mister.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

ok now i agree with slocki.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

fargo sucks.

-- omar little, Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:09 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

insane

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

fargo sucks

gabbneb, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

xp

I'm not ... I just didn't find Zodiac an all-too-original example of that genre, the way its fans do.

Fargo is a smug funny-accent travesty.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

i love tommy lee jones but his marshall in the fugitive is about 500 times better than his cop in ncfom

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

shit, his speech to rosario dawson at the end of men in black 2 is better than anything in ncfom

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

here is why fargo doesn't suck

frances macdormand
steve buscemi
peter stomare
william h macy
harve presnell

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

carter burwell

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

steve park
john carroll lynch

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

steve reevis

remy bean, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:21 (eighteen years ago)


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