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he just reported that authorities are finally removing bodies from the Convention Center...

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

also, his employer's annotated photos

lots of diesel drums, packages of bottled water, cops in swat gear, etc

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

this was from the scarborough transcript:

"If you live in the Southeast, you can help out by just packing up, putting water in the back of your truck, coming down here, dropping it, and then getting out of town."

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 September 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

Some of my co-workers did this on Wednesday. They were able to get as far as Jackson before realizing that any further and they'd be in the way.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 2 September 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i was seriously considering asking my dad about getting his neighborhood of recent retiree/empty-nesters(located just 8 hours NE of New Orleans) organized. They all have fishing/sporting boats(and shotguns), so just stick them all on trailers, hit up the nearest CostCo for as much water as they can carry, and convoy down to help.

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

that's an excellent idea, kingfish.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 September 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

they were talking about that on Jerry Springer's show today. It's like,

"The federales are fucked, man. we gotta help. okay, you & your brother have a boat, right? and my cousin is best friends with a bottled water distributor. So here's what we do..."

You know, saving the world, DIY-style.

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-01-2005/0004098910&EDATE=

"BENTONVILLE, Ark., Sept. 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Following President
Bush's announcement today that former Presidents Bush and Clinton will lead a
nationwide fundraising effort to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina, Wal-
Mart President and CEO Lee Scott contacted President Clinton and the White
House and committed $15 million from Wal-Mart to jump-start the effort.
As part of this commitment, Wal-Mart will establish mini-Wal-Mart stores
in areas impacted by the hurricane. Items such as clothing, diapers, baby
wipes, food, formula, toothbrushes, bedding and water will be given out free
of charge to those with a demonstrated need.
Wal-Mart previously donated $2 million in cash to aid emergency relief
efforts and has been collecting contributions at its 3,800 stores and CLUBS,
and through its web sites [www.walmartfacts.com, http://www.walmart.com,
http://www.walmartfoundation.org, http://www.walmartstores.com, http://www.samsclub.com].
Through its Associate Disaster Relief Fund, the company will also give
displaced associates immediate funds for shelter, food, clothing and other
necessities.
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. operates Wal-Mart Stores, Supercenters, Neighborhood
Markets and SAM'S CLUBS in all fifty states. Internationally, the company
operates in Puerto Rico, Canada, China, Mexico, Brazil, Germany, United
Kingdom, Argentina and South Korea. The company's securities are listed on
the New York and Pacific stock exchanges under the symbol WMT."

Cunga (Cunga), Friday, 2 September 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

i had a thought earlier tonight...what would Johnny Cash have thought of all this?

Hell, what does Jimmy Carter think of all this? What Clinton thinks, some already have an idea...

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

So is Derek Shezbie still trapped in his apartment? Jordan, let me know what you hear this weekend via email (I'm in New York this weekend; [email protected]) and I'll finish an item on the ReBirth show Monday morning. It's really great what you're doing at that site:
http://www.rebirthbrassband.com/messaging/cutecast.pl?forum=1&thread=432

(Sorry I mispelled Phil's name above, it's Frazier.)

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 2 September 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

a new orleans organization called acorn has opened a temporary office in baton rouge to help katrina victims. info on the org below, direct link to donation page here:

ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is the nation's largest community organization of low- and moderate-income families, working together for social justice and stronger communities. Since 1970, ACORN has grown to more than 175,000 member families, organized in 850 neighborhood chapters in 75 cities across the U.S. and in cities in Canada, the Dominican Republic and Peru.

ACORN's accomplishments include successful campaigns for better housing, schools, neighborhood safety, health care, job conditions, and more.

ACORN members participate in local meetings and actively work on campaigns, elect leadership from the neighborhood level up, and pay the organization's core expenses through membership dues and grassroots fundraisers.

ACORN has constantly challenged the traditional notions of what a community organization is, and its family of organizations includes two radio stations, a voter registration network, a housing corporation, and several publications.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 September 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

...anyone had news from fetchboy? I dont want to think no ones looking out for his wellbeing/whereabouts :/

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 2 September 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

he posted upthread! he's fine as is his family

gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

another example of saving the world, DIY-style, from a post on the Ed Schultz message board:

Ed,
I need YOUR help! I am currently arranging for a bus to go down to New Orleans and bring back families to the great state of North Dakota. My problem is my repeated contacts to the red cross, have yielded little help. I need a contact person or site in New Orleans and also one in Fargo. I have arranged for the bus and most of the funds needed to fuel the trip; however I can’t proceed unless I can get a contact site or person at both ends (New Orleans and Fargo).

I am hoping with some of your connections you could help with is.

but there gotta be countless more already...

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

he posted upthread!

Oh gosh! I missed that completely in the hoo haa. Thank god!

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 2 September 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

My problem is my repeated contacts to the red cross, have yielded little help

i imagine they're pretty overwhelmed. they haven't responded to my inquiry yet either, and that was days ago.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 September 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

WTF is this breaking news headline on foxnews.com...

Report: Explosions Heard, Flashes of Light Seen Around Superdome

gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

My God, this thread and the reporting on the news last night has made me feel so sad and so helpless. Glad Fetchboy is safe.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 2 September 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

Interview with Mayor Ray Nagin. He has some harsh words for all government officials involved.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Friday, 2 September 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

some very sad, ugly racist shit here:
http://www.nola.com/forums/crime/

-- Fritz Wollner (fritzwollner5...), September 2nd, 2005 2:45 AM. (Fritz) (later)

I really wish I hadn't clicked that. Some people are sick in the fucking head.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 2 September 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

will anyone answer for this? it's beyond incomprehensible. any idiot of a president should have been able to get all the major bus lines around the area to give up their buses to take people out of new orleans by now. how fucking hard is that? why didn't it happen? BEFORE things got completely out of hand. a cnn reporter said it took him an hour to get from the middle of the city to the highway by car. so it's not a question of being able to get in and out. and as far as where to put people once you get them out goes, there are a whole bunch of big fuckin' empty churches down there. you get on the t.v. and tell all those preachers that they got some guests coming for dinner.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 2 September 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

Myabe this has been mentioned upthread but did anyone see the head of FEMA on NBC last night? (around 7:15pm) Brian Williams asked him why it was taking so long to get people out and the FEMA guy said he didn't know it was so serious until today! (Thursday!)

Get that guy a newspaper subscription.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 2 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

FEMA didn't even know that there were people at the convention center till late yesterday. Get one CNN.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 2 September 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

There really is no answer. You can't give an answer. I defy you too. If the president called the CEO of greyhound and said we need all your buses in the area NOW, people are dying! It would have been done.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah scott - after the eminent domain court case, one would suspect that nationalizing both personnel and equipment would've been a cornerstone of Homeland Securities vast powers. Apparently they're not so vast, unless this is really a humanitarian crime of gross negligence (i know this should go in the political thread, but what scott said is absolutely true).

even harry connick jr. said he could move freely about the city!

xpost

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

in other miserable news, buses arriving at the astrodome are being turned away cuz the astrodome is full and drivers are being told to try other cities! like San Antonio!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

A true domesday scenario.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

I still cannot fathom Mr FEMA not knowing how serious the situation was almost three days after the levee broke.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 2 September 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

What's the earliest anyone read or saw reports of refugees at the Convention Center? cuz I hadn't til Olbermann/MSNBC last night, but I think I read ABC had something MONDAY night. Which would make the Feds liars.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Get one CNN.

This is exactly what I wanted Paula Zahn to say last night when FEMA head claimed to have only recently found out about the Superdome situation.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 2 September 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

So is Derek Shezbie still trapped in his apartment? Jordan, let me know what you hear this weekend via email (I'm in New York this weekend; [email protected]) and I'll finish an item on the ReBirth show Monday morning. It's really great what you're doing at that site:
http://www.rebirthbrassband.com/messaging/cutecast.pl?forum=1&thread=432

Hey Pete. Yeah, Derek is still in his apartment as far as I know. I'll find out if anyone has been able to get ahold of him today.

Are you thinking of Jack Brass on the Rebirth message board? That's not me actually, that's Mike Olander from a brass band in Minneapolis. But yeah, he's doing the right thing.

I'll e-mail you if I hear anything this weekend. I'm going to see if I can get together some drums to ship to Derrick and Keith this weekend so they can keeping rolling. Thanks for keeping up and writing about this stuff.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

To make matters more confusing, Michael Brown has been confusing convention center and superdome frequently, including this morning during discussion with k. couric.

Aid is reaching these people now it seems, but not enough to overcome the notion of scarcity and obvs these folks are desperate to be sated first.

I lived in NYC on 9/11 and although the levels of hysteria on 5th Ave below 14th were high that morning, nothing approached this level of pandemonium. My thoughts have been with New Orleans nonstop since the coverage of the storm preparation began. I can't help but think of this family of a man, his girlfriend and her three year old riding it out on a shrimpboat. It was all they had. The unspeakable horror!

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 2 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

It looks like someone is getting a bit of an act together- from nytimes.com:

Airlines to Fly Up to 25,000 Refugees Out of New Orleans

By MICHELINE MAYNARD
The nation's airlines have been mobilized to fly up to 25,000 refugees out of New Orleans beginning today, under an emergency plan put into effect for the first time by the Department of Homeland Security.

Under the department's national response plan, 15 airlines, including 10 major commercial carriers, will transport up to 25,000 refugees from Louis Armstrong Airport outside New Orleans to Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, airlines taking part in the plan said this morning.

The airlines are volunteering their aircraft and crew for the program, which is scheduled to begin at noon and run until this evening. The airlifts also will take place tomorrow and Sunday, the airlines said.

The Transportation Security Administration will secure the airport, according to a memo sent to the airlines. But airlines are being told to "bring everyone and everything you need," the memo said. They were told the status of jet fuel at the airport is "unclear" while power is intermittent.

The airlines have been asked to provide narrow-bodied planes, like Boeing 737 and Airbus A-320 models. The T.S.A. will screen passengers, as it normally does at airports, and it will create passenger lists for the airlines.

The airlines are donating their services without charge, participants said. It is the first time that the Department of Homeland Security has activated the plan, which is being supervised by Michael Jackson, a former Transportation Department official who is the assistant secretary for homeland security. Airlines have been told the airport can handle seven to nine flights per hour, and that the airport will operate under visiual flight rules. That means that flights must take place in relatively good weather, so that pilots can see the airport from a distance as they approach.

Rest of the article is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/national/nationalspecial/02cnd-air.html

Of course, they still have to get people from the convention center/superdome/their houses to the airport....


lyra (lyra), Friday, 2 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

The T.S.A. will screen passengers, as it normally does at airports, and it will create passenger lists for the airlines.

upon reading this, my first thought was, oh great, the anti-terra fuckheads are at it again.

Then i realized that "passenger lists" is the important bit. Passenger Lists can get posted on websites, send to newspapers, etc.

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

'Bout time Michael Jackson stepped up.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050902/ap_on_re_us/hurricane_katrina_hk1

Tourist Debbie Durso of Washington, Mich., said she asked a police officer for assistance and his response was, "'Go to hell — it's every man for himself.'"

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Hi Everybody

Like you I am disgusted by what is taking place and what has not taken place in New Orleans. We'll see how the apparent genocide of the poor of New Orleans plays out today.

To the point, as many of you know, Quintron and Miss Pussycat lived in New Orleans' 9th Ward. CNN characterized the homes in the neighborhood as "humble" - these are a lot of the people that we're all seeing on TV. The folks who for economic or health reasons did not evacuate. Fortunately, Quintron and Miss Pussycat did make it out of New Orleans before the hurricane hit. Their van was loaded up with their instruments and puppets - but their house, the Spellcaster Lodge and ALL of their belongings are casualties of Hurricane Katrina. Pretty much all Q and P have is what they need to tour... This is a DEVASTATING turn of events for our friends.

They need your help. Those with paypal accounts can send donations to Quintron and Miss Pussycat's Rhinestone Records account. Their paypal id is: [email protected]

I realize that many of you out there don't have lots of money to spare - that's the general makeup of our music scene - but if everyone getting this email sits there and thinks they are unique and "others" will contribute, nothing is going to happen. It is YOU I'm reaching out to. This is terribly important. If you don't have a paypal account, I'll gladly accept donations here at Skin Graft, make them payable to the label, make it clear that it's for Q and P and I'll see that they get it.

Also, I'd be doing RUINS a tremendous disservice if I didn't mention that their "Pallaschtom" CD has arrived and I'm sending orders out as soon as I get them. It is an incredible album. Everything in the Skin Graft catalog is on sale at the moment (and will be through September 12th), so now is a good time to pick up any of those Quintron and Flossie And The Unicorns titles you've been meaning to get.

Please spread the word. Thanks everyone,

Mark
http://www.skingraftrecords.com

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Can I just say right now, I am extremely annoyed and offended at my co-workers whining about gas prices? That's all I hear around here - fuck them, man. There are worse things going on. I'm pissed off.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

http://www.gawker.com/news/oops.jpg

O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Exciting! Colorful!

On the one hand, Interdictor's kinda crazy. On the other hand, he reports stuff like this, from half an hour ago:

10:01 am The City is ON FIRE
Teams Alpha and Bravo finished the medium range recon and there are 3 separate locations on fire. We have pictures coming shortly.

During the recon, I spoke to some Federal Marshalls and NOPD. Morale is LOW. Very low. They're not seeing the military presence they say they were promised. I told those guys they can't possibly imagine how much we (the world) appreciate their dedication. I asked what civil rights the citizens have and the US Marshalls looked at me like I just fell off the turnip truck and chuckled. I asked if citizens can have guns for protection and he said if someone thinks he needs a gun, he should have already evacuated. He also said they are setting the city on fire.

The NOPD wants to know where "the two active duty brigades" were that he says they were told were supposed to arrive today. When I asked him what he would want to tell the world, he said Everyone keeps talking about the military presence in the city, and then asked me," Do you see any military around here" in dusgust.

We reconned our roof also, to get a better view of the city and took... I hesitate to call them "amazing" pictures. My city... it has been punched in the face and is on the canvas being counted out.

And yes, that's smoke you see out of the windows. The city is under a haze from the fires. Smoke and ash are floating miles away from the fires.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

http://wwltv.com//sharedcontent/nationworld/dailyimages/090205explosionW.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile, Hilary Duff, conscience of the nation:

9:53 A.M. - LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Hilary Duff has pledged to donate $250,000 to help Hurricane Katrina victims on the Gulf Coast. The 17-year-old singer-actress will give $200,000 to the American Red Cross and $50,000 to USA Harvest, which is supplying food to shelters, according to a statement released Thursday by publicist Cece Yorke. The latter donation will amount to more than 300,000 cans of food being provided to victims.


Duff encouraged fans to bring canned food donations to her concerts and to give money to charities.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

What the fuck is that picture, Ned?!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Fuck you hater, Hilary Duff recorded a song by song cover of "Loveless"!

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

whats the link to that blog again, ned?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Good for Hillary.

Jordan, that pictures is fires burning in NO.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

great. the part of the buildings not underwater are now on fire. perfect.

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Interdictor blog:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/

Fuck you hater, Hilary Duff recorded a song by song cover of "Loveless"!

Lo, I am shamed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Spot the contrast.

10:37 A.M. - Bush: First we're going to save lives and stabilize the situation.


10:33 A.M. - (AP) A large fire erupted today in an old retail building in a dry section of Canal Street. There's no immediate reports of injuries.Earlier today, an explosion at a chemical depot rocked an area of New Orleans east of the French Quarter.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

http://neworleans.craigslist.org/m4w/94980898.html

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)


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