actually it was a good advert for the Sarah Jane show (not so much for Torchwood). Mr Smith rocks.
― blueski, Monday, 30 June 2008 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I was wondering if Red Robot Supreme Dalek will end up turning on its creator for not being Dalek enough - it was already getting suspicious that Davros was paying too much attention to Dalek Caan.
― Forest Pines Mk2, Monday, 30 June 2008 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Pulsating brain is Dalek Caan, who was in the Cult of Skaro (who were fighting the Cyberman at the end of series 2 and buiding the Empire State in series 3). The last time we saw him he was an ordinary dalek, he's been off searching the universe for Davros and has gone all mad and prophetic.
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― Chess, Monday, 30 June 2008 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link
This was my though. There was a lot of tension between the three and noticably no Dalek said 'I Obey'. It could all break down because Davros wants to destroy reality and the supreme Dalek, being a Dalek wants to rule it.
― Ed, Monday, 30 June 2008 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link
OK so it was Hokum, but good Hokum.
yeah that about sums it up for me, and it's about the best i could expect from russell t.
supreme dalek was a bit rubb, "oh let's just stick a few girders on".
when they finally located earth, why did tardis go on fire and the doctor shout "WE'RE TRAVELLING IN TIME!!!" - um yup? that's what you do?
― ledge, Monday, 30 June 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link
IN THROUGH
― ledge, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
why did tardis go on fire and the doctor shout "WE'RE TRAVELLING IN TIME!!!"
god knows - that's where i realized i truly was lost
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
And then suddenly they just weren't on fire any more. WHOA FLAMES SCARY MALFUNCTION oh look it's all fine now, no need to mention it. I have no idea about the one second thing at all. Maybe these things aren't there to be thought about (the bits of the plot I could actually follow obviously weren't) but it would be nice not to be scratching my head hoping that they don't turn out to be vital plot points.
This and no reference at all to last week's Bad Wolf ending = are you guys even trying to join these seams up?
I didn't mind the episode but it felt rather thrown together, opportunities missed. As for the cliffhanger, I'd like to have Tennant stick around, but I suspect that if he does then whatever the rewind hinges on will be, y'know, a bit lame. As was his death in the first place. Well, we'll see.
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Last night I dreamed that Peter Davidson came back, sitting on a sofa. Colin Baker too but not Sylvester McCoy because he was dead.
― Alba, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link
(he's not dead is he?)
No, he's occasionally spotted in my local.
― chap, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh good. I misspelled Davison. Sorry.
― Alba, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link
was it because they were travelling ONE SECOND forward in time in order to actually see the planets? even the TARDIS was so confused it caught fire.
― blueski, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought maybe it was the Doctor just being all anti-blasé. Like us being excited every time we take off in an aeroplane and see the people become little ants.
― Alba, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
They travelled one second forward in time... over the course of five seconds of wailing, Trek-esque lurching and flames? Magic!
Don't make me iplayer this, because I'm not going to understand it the second time either.
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I think the difficulty was not that they were traveling one second in time that they were jumping 1 second out of sync with the rest of the universe.
― Ed, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Possibly the flames were because the Doctor did not hit it wi'hammer.
He should have shouted "We're jumping 1 second out of sync with the rest of the universe!"
― Alba, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link
That intergalactic police bunch was well useless. Was it supposed to be a dig at the UN?
― Alba, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, D- for interpersonal skills. "No, I meant your loss to come".
I thought the SP woman was Miranda Richardson. she wanted the Doctor to lead them into battle against the Daleks tho right? the whole "okay let me just fetch something...SLAM, ESCAPE" was amusing tho
― blueski, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah the tardis went on fire because they went 1 second out of sync with the rest of the universe but how it repaired itself afterwards is a mystery.
so do we know how stealing 27 planets in one universe destroys all other universes yet?
― Roz, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link
By using them as an engine, how? I don't know.
― Ed, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
is the lost moon of poosh a planet? this could scupper everything
― blueski, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
heavy and round is all it needs to be I think.
― Ed, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
so what's the medusa cascade then (other than it's out of sync and that the doctor was there as a time kid)? i know it's been mentioned in a couple of other episodes but can't remember in what context.
― Roz, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
A "rift in space and time" by all accounts
― Stone Monkey, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I think he takes companions there on hot dates, look at the beautiful space feature whilst I cop a feel up your blouse kind of thing.
― Ed, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Is there Tennant/Tate fanfic? I don't think I need an answer to that question.
― Alba, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
oh god please no.
― Roz, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link
a lot of trouble could be avoided if the Doctor just found a way to get rid of the Daleks' emergency temporal shift, which has apparently been used to escape the time war, the void between universes, re-entering the time-locked time war, etc etc...
― Roz, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
played this yesterday
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Dalekattackgame.jpg
not very good :(
― DG, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
the whole "okay let me just fetch something...SLAM, ESCAPE" was amusing tho
― Nhex, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
he pulls that trick with somebody else doesn't he? a potential companion?
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 June 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Did he not do it to Mr Copper, who still decided to go and set up the foundation that paid for Harriet Jones' supercomputer?
― ailsa, Monday, 30 June 2008 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link
unintentionally happened with Madame Pompadour, if that's what you're thinking of
― blueski, Monday, 30 June 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
He tried to do it to Donna at the end of The Runaway Bride, but Donna shouted at him until he came back. I know shouty Donna was annoying to some, but I like how that became an ongoing motif: Donna pointing out all of the Doctor's evasions.
― reddening, Monday, 30 June 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
for those of us not au fait with Who history, it was a little confusing sorting out Red Dalek, Davros, pulsating brain on throne, etc
i also failed to grasp how being one second behind the timeline of the earth made the doctor able to instantly teleport to the earth's new location, or why/how the tardis wound up in "the medusa cascade" to begin with, or why that's interesting
-- Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 June 2008 22:05 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
Not nearly enough exposition, that's why. Another episode in which Davies tried to cram two hours of story into 46 minutes of screen time.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 June 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Surely there will be movie at somepoint.
― Jarlrmai, Monday, 30 June 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
we know DT sticks around so it felt like a contrived obstacle that ultimately won't mean anything (other than a means of him being able to get with Rose, BUT WHO WANTS THAT?)
Any chance Rose does her deus ex machina thing again and SUCKS THE REGENERATION OUT OF HIM (not a euphemism) and SHE regenerates instead?
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 June 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
two hours of story??? VERY LITTLE HAPPENED
― thomp, Monday, 30 June 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah but if they'd explained everything properly it would have taken two hours.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 June 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link
probably. I am speaking hyperbolically.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 June 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
here's the trailer, for the non-britishers: http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2008/06/journeys-end-trailer.html
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Isn't that sort of how the whole career of the Doctor started--him nicking off in a (stolen) TARDIS when he was supposed to be being responsible? And repeated in the Five Doctors for that reason.
― James Morrison, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i really kind of loved this one...normally I'm shouting at the TV when RTD takes the wheel, and maybe it was just the glee of seeing the band get back together etc, but I was all 'whee!' the whole time.
dreamed last night that my editor asked me to write an article on the disappeaing bees, and was all excited in my dream because I could use the Doctor as a source for explaining where they went. waking up was very disappointing.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link
use the Doctor as a sauce
resultant paste between two Doctors
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link
am presuming donna sacrifices herself so doctor can regenerate into doctor
― remy bean, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link
donna-doctor, like doner kebab but with more zest
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 05:42 (fifteen years ago) link
He tried to do it to Donna at the end of The Runaway Bride, but Donna shouted at him until he came back.
this is what i'm remembering!
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 08:27 (fifteen years ago) link