iPhone apps S/D

fwiw, i don't care that every other phone does this. i care that it is useful and would not be hard to integrate into the UI without clutter. seems to me like that just haven't gotten round to it and it will happen eventually, rather than they've made a strategic decision about how people are texting wrong and it should suck for them until they learn to do it properly.

i suppose i will need to start getting into the habit of NOT using the "write a text" button with which i am presented on the main SMS screen. silly silly fucking me. and instead will start scrolling around to find the last text someone sent me BEFORE writing my text to them. handy! and then most of my problems will be taken care of. (though not the problem with sending texts to multiple recipients.) but frankly i think that is LAMENTABLE STUPIDNESS.

also I AM RIGHT.

I remember when the iPhone came out and they basically said "MMS is unimportant and will go away once people have a easier email integration on their phones" Guess what actually happened?

Not everything Apple does is actually right, guys.

to be fair, i think that was more a bullshit smokescreen for at&t's benefit rather than apple trying to reinvent portable telephones.

yeah at&t admitted later that lack of mms functionality was their fault

no one i know has a phone that uses mms anyway so

You never need to respond to a text.

i dont even know what tracer does but it sounds like a very high stress job

Text me and see if I respond. I dare you.

Oh seven ate seven too klondike for seven six.

I bet I wont respond to any.

no one i know has a phone that uses mms anyway so

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haha

and instead will start scrolling around to find the last text someone sent me BEFORE writing my text to them
this makes perfect sense to me, cos on my old Nokias the shortest possible way to send a new text was to open address book, find their names, and hit "text". It makes sense on the iPhone too, because this way you don't have to type in their name/find it in the book, which is faster.

Not everything Apple does is actually right, guys.
No, tru, i guess this is like taking the arrow keys off the keyboard on the first Mac because they wanted to force people to use the damn mouse and not try to just treat it like "every other computer". This is the same: they want ppl to think about SMS as conversations instead of little discrete things that you start from scratch every time.

"klondike" isnt a number it is a kind of treat

Klondike 555 innit.

no, a treat

I picked the number just so I could say "klondike" when I tell people my number.

made of ice cream and chocolate

No one has texted me. That's how unimportant texts are.

I tried but I handnt texted you before so I was fucked basically

you get another text in while you were texting him? shit

this makes perfect sense to me, cos on my old Nokias the shortest possible way to send a new text was to open address book, find their names, and hit "text". It makes sense on the iPhone too, because this way you don't have to type in their name/find it in the book, which is faster.

I think the iPhone methodology only works for people you text constantly, though; if there's someone you only text occasionally, especially if you send out a lot of texts, it feels faster and (more importantly) more intuitive to start a new text and type the person's name.

If you could type a name or number to scroll down the conversation list or resort it into alphabetical order, most of my issues with it would go away, btw.

(and none of that really addresses the breaking of multi-recipient texts, which is a much bigger issue IMO)

tbh i didnt even know that it was possible to send multi-recipient texts where the ricipients could see that you sent it to a lot of people and could respond in kind

I put the klondike number test thing on twitter too and got a text from a twitterer = Twitterers are smarter than ilXors.

Neither did I, Max.

That might have been a use for spotlight but it doesn't search SMS. Useless.

Xp am surprised how many people use these. I just use em to broadcast info/dates/etc and expect single replies.

xxp, anyone who knows this is using texting wrongly anyway, so don't feel bad

(basically if this thing didn't have an iPod and games on it, I would have ditched it years ago)

xp: The multitext thing was one of my favorite things about my Treo; I know my mom's and brother's phones support it (and my mom's phone is OOOOOOLD) because of a 3-way conversation between us where all of their responses went to everyone and mine only went to whomever I was directly responding to.

i got a reply from nick. but while typing my text i discovered there's no caps lock! you have to hit shift for every letter! FUCK APPLE!

double-tap the shift

Haha, I nearly made a joke about the shift thing (I know about the caps lock).

What I want now is a ctrl-f function for text docs and web pages.

(basically if this thing didn't have an iPod and games on it, I would have ditched it years ago)

seriously, if it wasn't actually an iphone i would have ditched mine too and gotten an actual iphone

so wait dan what happens on their end? it just says, "text message from dan that is going to you and your mom"

What I want now is a ctrl-f function for text docs and web pages.

^^^^ iCab does this for web pages, and has an a+++ scroller for long ones

Scik, for Find In Page using Safari go here (no hacking required) - http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/complete-tutorial-video-extend-functionality-your-iphone-web-browser

so wait dan what happens on their end? it just says, "text message from dan that is going to you and your mom"

It lists all the recipients and, IIRC, you can choose to respond to the sender or to respond to everyone.

(so yes, it does treat the messaging like email, although probably the better way to look at it is a wholly integrated IM/chat room setup)

now im worried that "personal" texts i sent to tons of people did not look "personal" on their end

"thinkin about you"

SENDING 1/118

"god i love yr tits"

SENDING 1/118

"my fingers still smell of yr clunge"

SENDING 1/118

That was a line, wasn't it?

And I trotted over it.

i love that i started this argument

anyway NEW QUESTION, how come a bunch of the apps i downloaded don't work, they just drop back to the home screen after 2 secs? Shazam, Stanza, NetNewsWire, Urbanspoon...

u have to save the apps in a draft folder

What os + have you reinstalled them?

The way to find out what's crashing them is to read the console log and crash reports. You can do this from XCode (hook the phone up, go to Organiser from window menu, choose Console tab) but this might need a developer certificate sry

"version", i assume it means os, 3.1.2. yeah guess i'll try reinstalling although damn annoying it's happening on so many. including tubemap, wikipedia...

misread that as "tubmap"

Something's really fucked there, Ledge. Backup and restore, wld be next step