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dan if u do it someone will blog u and you'll get a book deal guaranteed

but I think John d should help

@corinthians

moses RT @jhwh 10 commandments #lawsofgod 3000 years ago from tablet

:D

i love it when a so-called design defect turns out to be a human defect ;)

I don't think it's a defect at all. Safari pulls up the last web page you were using; all the Twitter apps I've used will save a Twitter message in progress if you were typing something when you exit the program. Notes app does too. The Voice Recorder even lets you exit the program and continue recording. Almost all other apps save where you're at whether the task itself is short or not; I don't know why Apple wouldn't incorporate a stress-free solution for txt msgs too, especially since every phone since the big brick Nokias with interchangeable faceplates has had that feature.

You can save drafts in SMS, you just quit the app or hit back to save. You can have multiple drafts going at once, in different conversations.

but if your SMS is not part of a previous conversation it doesn't work. or if you just start typing a new SMS willy nilly without first designating who it's going to.

i.e. hit "cancel" and it's gone. in mail app if you hit cancel it gives you the option to save.

Just quit the app and it does still save it, at least. Are you saving drafts to strangers? Note app might be a better place.

just throwing this out there--i really cant believe were having this discussion--if your texts are so long that you need to save drafts of them you are fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of text messaging

my old phone always said "saving to drafts" whenever i cancelled or whatever and i was all "... ok, whatever." never went back to an old draft.

listen if God wanted you to send shorter text messages he would have made the character limit smaller

smoke em if you got em imo

god showed you that he wants you to send shorter text messages by telling me to tell you

show me the text message where he told you to tell me

max they're not particularly long. but it happens that a few things are on the boil at once. i.e. writing a text but a new text comes in while i'm typing that i need to respond to immediately.

although yes i have been known to write some epic texts.

ok but tray

1) how "immediately" do you need to respond to the other text that you cant spend 20 seconds finishing the text you are working on

2) how much of a trial is it for you to spend 40 seconds re-writing what you were already writing

Am confused. The only time you can't save a draft in this case is if you're starting a totally new conversation with someone you've never messaged before *and* a new text that you must reply to instanto comes in while you're typing. Is that common? All the other cases it'll save the draft.

GOD TRACE

FUCK. ok stet start typing a text to somebody you've texted before. no, don't go find the "conversation", just start a new text, address it to them (or don't) and start typing. now cancel. it is gone. no i do not want to redo shit i've done before and yes it often happens that i'm interrupted in the middle and need to respond to another text. THANK YOU AND FUCK YOU VERY MUCH.

lol at americans trying to figure out texting.

no, don't go find the "conversation", just start a new text,
UR DOIN IT WRONG. If you want to save drafts, find the conversation and add to it.

How are you starting these things? Whatever way you're doing it is slower than just opening the SMS app, finding their thread and adding to it.

lol at iPhone rage

you're basically using the SMS app in the only way you can use it so that it won't save a draft and then complaining that it won't save a draft.

open SMS, hit the "write" icon in top right, what a weirdo i fucking am jesus christ

if you cancel by pressing the home button or wtf it's called, rather than pressing cancel, it's still there when you go back.

The only time you should do that is if you're texting someone for the first time. Otherwise just find them in the list and it'll save the draft. Please? xp

You're not a weirdo, Tracer; it's a really stupid usability flaw that only people who have trained themselves away from it don't get.

ftr this is why I am completely single-threaded while texting

yeah just hit the home button tracer

it automatically adds to old threads anyway dan

also, dan is wrong, you are a weirdo, i just want to point out, you are all weirdos, stop writing such long text messages, i guarantee you, the person who is receiving them, hates you

you guys are forgetting that i might have been interrupted by ANOTHER TEXT TO WHICH I NEED TO RESPOND.

and practically any time you are addressing a text to multiple recipients it counts as a "stranger" in that there is no particular "conversation" that contains that exact constellation of contacts so there is not even the option to scroll through your list first and find the conversation just so that, possibly, if something happens, you are hedged against having what you wrote simply ERASED because you weren't thinking ahead.

god damn.

So if you are in the middle of texting someone and you need to respond to someone else's text, you have to exit the application and re-enter it in order to keep from losing what you just wrote? Really? No one thinks that is counter-intuitive?

Also yeah, the failure to support texting multiple people is also stupid.

yes and my point is if you are writing texts of a proper length it will take you literally less than 20 seconds to finish the text you are working and then respond to the new text

it does support texting multiple people

max no one is writing "long" text messages except the elves which are turning the cranks in your brain

it's hardly "training yourself away" -- it's the difference between just hitting reply and hitting "new message" in email every time, even when you're replying. Why type the address again? xxp

and practically any time you are addressing a text to multiple recipients it counts as a "stranger"
oh come on this is totally just looking for the edge cases now. if you're doing this double-tap the text, hit "copy", do your other thing, come back, hit paste fuggedaboutit

So if you are in the middle of texting someone and you need to respond to someone else's text
If you're doing this is as a reply, just hit "back", go to the other text, reply, come back to your original thread and VOILA your draft has been saved

yes and my point is if you are writing texts of a proper length it will take you literally less than 20 seconds to finish the text you are working and then respond to the new text

― max, Friday, December 4, 2009 2:43 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes, but it would take apple less than 20 seconds to fix this (i checked), thus saving millions of man hours.

well as stet points out there isnt really anyhting to "fix"

You guys are amazing

I mean seriously <3 this conversation

there isn't anything to fix if your standards are really low, sure.

holy shit are we really arguing about this

it does support texting multiple people

And when one of them responds, it doesn't connect the message to the original thread and it doesn't show you if the person responding is also responding to everyone else on your original message; I have had multiple irritating text conversations amongst my family that turn into relaying messages back and forth because I'm the only one whose phone can't actually support a multi-participant text thread.

Again, the Treo does this.

you want to know what you sound like to me--this sounds like people complaining that you cant save drafts of your instant messages

there isn't anything to fix if your standards are really low, sure.
hit "cancel" ... it cancels. uh, fail?

Have you ever used another smartphone, max?

no? but? im not sure how thats relevant?