THE TOP 100 FILMS OF THE OUGHTS NOMINATION + DISCUSSION THRED

it's like a pantomime that thinks it's a serious film. or maybe it doesn't think it's serious. i dunno....but it sucks.

this is otm up til the "it sucks" part. the first time i saw it i remember about 10 minutes in thinking 'omg how am i supposed to believe anything in this movie,' and then i realized i didn't need to believe any of it, and after that it was pretty much wall-to-wall entertainment. cameron diaz is terrible, leo is sort of just acceptable and ddl eats everything around him like pac-man, but there's some kind of core reactor at the center of the film that just rolls it straight through all of that and feeds off it. scorsese really gets off on the whole thing. the climax is totally bananas, and it has some half-cocked/fully-loaded ideas about america kicking around in it that seem visceral and intuited to me, despite or because of their incoherence.

Morvern Callar is a good call. I don't know that it would be high on my list, but it might be on it.

in general i dig big sprawling entertaining messes! but i think i took the incoherence for clumsiness, not visceral intuition. and the characters & revenge plot were just too corny to stomach. you almost make me want to give it another go though..

Nobody Knows (Hirokazu Koreeda, 2004)

gangs is the only movie since goodfellas if not earlier where scorsese let himself be crazy.

Disagreed! Scorsese-craziness is part of the reason I love the much-maligned Bringing Out The Dead.

i guess we can all have a favorite "bad" scorsese. i'd gladly take either over the departed or the aviator.

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hannah takes the stairs
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― johnny crunch, Tuesday, December 1, 2009 11:56 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

you gotta be fucking kidding me.

yes u have picked up on my elaborate ruse on u

idk, it's pretty much the worst film i saw in 2008, have no idea how you got there.

ah now come on. you saw the oxford murders and son of rambow, right?

i would maybe like the scorsese craziness in gony if it didn't feel so distracted and hacked up in the editing room... it's just in tatters that movie

oxford murders was shit, yeah, i had forgotten that, but i appreciated the slightly nostalgia-inducing long take across broad street. i saw a film that starred adam sander's entourage that really was bad, but i've forgotten the title. 'hannah' really was the pits though. the girl in it is in the new noah baumbach thingy with ben stiller. hopefully she'll have a script this time.

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films I gave 1/5 in 2008:

oxford murders, son of rambow, persepolis, the happening

i would maybe like the scorsese craziness in gony if it didn't feel so distracted and hacked up in the editing room

i remember the first time i saw it there was some point in the middle where i actually thought, "wait, did i fall asleep? what's going on?" on the other hand, the character arcs and revenge plot and so forth are sort of secondary to its whole creation of this imaginary baptized-in-blood new york, so in some ways the narrative confusion doesn't bother me. especially if part of what got cut was more cameron diaz...

i browsed thru 1 of the 00-04 threads, do we want to cast votes for 3 most hated films? i think it'd be kinda interesting

also gangs felt really... CGI in an unpleasant way. plus that u2 song at the beginning. MOVIE SUCKS

every time i see it i do have to try to scrub that u2 song from my mind.

Innocence
Hellboy (I)

probably not going to watch GONY or aviator a second time, but at least the latter had cate blanchett in it, and had some funny bits (wave of the future wave of the future wave of the future -- dats a solid meme right there).

So as not to miss anything, these were the films I loved, with the ones not appearing above in bold.

Guizi lai le/Devils on the Doorstep (2000)
Memento (2000)
Sånger från andra våningen/Songs from the Second Floor (2000)
Thomas est amoureux/Thomas in Love (2000)
Werckmeister harmóniák/Werckmeister Harmonies (2000)
Lucía y el sexo/Sex and Lucia (2001)
24 Hour Party People (2002)
Adaptation. (2002)
Decasia (2002)
Irréversible (2002)
Naqoyqatsi (2002)
Russkiy kovcheg/Russian Ark (2002)
Secretary (2002)
Bom yeoreum gaeul gyeoul geurigo bom/Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (2003)
Kontroll (2003)
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003)
Ruang rak noi nid mahasan/Last Life in the Universe (2003)
The Dreamers (2003)
Cha no aji/The Taste of Tea (2004)
Der Untergang/Downfall (2004)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
Primer (2004)
Survive Style 5+ (2004)
Lord of War (2005)
Paradise Now (2005)
Syriana (2005)
A Scanner Darkly (2006)
Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (2006)
Children of Men (2006)
Das Leben der Anderen/The Lives of Others (2006)
El laberinto del fauno'/Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
Letters from Iwo Jima (2006)
Taxidermia (2006)
The Fall (2006)
The Last King of Scotland (2006)
No Country for Old Men (2007)
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)
There Will Be Blood (2007)
Låt den rätte komma in/Let the Right One In (2008)
Synecdoche, New York (2008)

Have we had Batman Begins yet?

i guess my 10 is:

zodiac
children of men
demonlover (completely token non-US film)
before sunset
adaptation
i'm not there
zoolander (could be anchorman on another day)
eternal sunshine
punch drunk love
superbad

Morvern Callar is a good call.

If you are including late '90s films that didn't reach America til the 2000s, I'd put the same director's Ratcatcher ahead of MC.

i like 'the aviator' slightly more than gangs of new york and 'the departed' a lot more, but i dig gony b/c it's got quite a lot of energy and it moves by pretty quickly despite it being a mess.

i think the most ridiculous scorsese movie might be coming out shortly w/'shutter island'.

If you are including late '90s films that didn't reach America til the 2000s, I'd put the same director's Ratcatcher ahead of MC.

i cant find a screening before 2002 for mc morbz???? but yes ratcatcher is better, sure

zodiac
children of men
demonlover (completely token non-US film)
before sunset
adaptation
i'm not there
zoolander (could be anchorman on another day)
eternal sunshine
punch drunk love
superbad

f pta but never change dude

pdl is the pta it's ok to like

h8d that movie iirc it looked like a pretentious car ad

fu morvern callar sucked so we're evens

how was 'warm water under a red bridge'?

ginger snaps
teeth

keane

do we want to cast votes for 3 most hated films?

I'd be down with that. I can think of two very easy choices off the top of my head (neither of which, it's worth noting, have shown up on this verrrry long list of nominees, despite having garnered some critical accolades).

how was 'warm water under a red bridge'?

Marvelous, a fitting swan song for a great director.

I didn't mean Morvern Callar was a late '90s film, only that Ratcatcher was. Anyway, have fun.

ok, the nominations thus far (did a quick sort and scan, please note any errors you may spot since i'll be using this from this point forward and just adding to it)

4
2046
13 going on 30
13 Tzameti
13: Game Of Death
21 grams
24 Hour Party People
24hr party people
25th Hour
28 Days Later
3-Iron
4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days
40 year old virgin
6ixty9ine
9th Company
A Christmas Tale
A Chronicle of Corpses (Andrew Repasky McElhinney 2000)
A Cock And Bull Story
a good lawyer's wife
A History of Violence
A Prairie Home Companion
A Scanner Darkly
a serious man
a snake of june
A Tale of Two Sisters
A.I.: Artificial Intelligence
About a Boy
Adaptation
All the Real Girls
Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
Amelie
American Astronaut
American Psycho
American Splendor
Amores Perros
An Education
Anchorman
Anvil! The Story of Anvil
As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty (Jonas Mekas 2000)
Atanarjuat: The Fast Runner
Babel
Bad Guy
Bad Santa
Baraka
Barbarian Invasions
Battle Royale
Be Here to Love Me
Beau travail
Before Sunset
Best In Show
Birth (Jonathan Glazer, 2004)
Black Dynamite
Black Hawk Down
Black Sheep
Blade II
Blind Shaft
Bloody Sunday
Borat
bourne identity
bourne supremacy
bourne ultimatum
Bowling for Columbine
Brick
Bright Star
bring it on (2000)
Brokeback Mountain
Broken Flowers
Broken Sky
Bronson
Bubba Ho-Tep
Bully
Burn After Reading
Caché
Cafe Lumiere (Hou Hsiao-Hsien 2003)
Candy (Neil Armfield, 2006)
Capturing the Friedmans
Casino Royale
Cast Away
Catch Me If You Can
Cellular
Charlie's Angels
Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle
Chicken Run
Children of Men
Chopper
city of god
Clean
Clerks 2
Closer
Cloudy With a Chance of Meat-a-balls
Cloverfield
Code Unknown - Haneke.Eureka
Collateral
Colossal Youth
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
Constantine
Control
Conversations with Other Women
Coraline
Crank
Crank 2: High Voltage
Cremaster 3
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Dagon
De l'autre côté (Chantal Akerman 2002)
dead man's shoes
Death of Mr. Lazarescu
Der Untergang
DiG!
District 9
district b13
Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Dogtown and Z-Boys
Dogville
Donnie Darko
Doubt
Down With Love (Peyton Reed 2003)
Downfall
Dracula: Pages From a Virgin's Diary
Drag Me to Hell
Dreamgirls
DUMPLINGS!!
Eastern Promises
Eden Lake
Election (Johnnie To)
Elephant
encounters at the end of the world
End of the Century
Entre les murs (aka The Class)- Laurent Cantet.
Erin Brockovich
Esther Kahn (Arnaud Desplechin 2000)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Être et avoir (To Be And To Have)
Far From Heaven
Fat Girl
Femme Fatale
Final Destination
Finding Nemo
Flight of the Red Balloon
forgetting sarah marshall
Freddy Got Fingered
Funny Ha Ha
Gabrielle - Patrice Chéreau.
Gangs of New York
Gangster No. 1
George Washington
ghost town
Ghost World
ginger snaps
Gladiator
Gomorrah
Good Bye, Lenin!
Goodbye Dragon Inn
Gosford Park
Gozu
Gran Torino (Clint Eastwood 2008)
Grandma’s Boy
graveyard of honor
Grindhouse
Grizzly Man
Guizi lai le/Devils on the Doorstep (2000)
Half Nelson
Hallam Foe
hannah takes the stairs
Happiness of the Katakuris
Hard Candy
Harold & Kumar- both of them.
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
Hellboy
Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
High Fidelity
historias extraordinarias
Homecoming (Joe Dante 2005 - from Showtime's "Masters of Horror" series)
Hot Fuzz
Hot Rod
Hotel Rwanda
howl's moving castle (2004)
Hunger
I Don't Want to Sleep Alone
I Heart Huckabees
i like killing flies
ichi the killer
Igby Goes Down
i'm not there
In America
In Bruges
In Her Shoes
In the Cut (Jane Campion 2003)
In The Loop
In the Mood for Love
infamous
Infernal Affairs
infernal affairs II
infernal affairs III
Inglourious Basterds
Inland Empire
Innocence
Inside aka À l'intérieur
Inside Man
Into the Wild
Iron Man
Irreversible
Jackass
Jackass Number Two
Jesus Camp
Jesus' Son
Joint Security Area (JSA)
Josie and the Pussycats
Junebug
Ju-On aka The Grudge
Katalin Varga
keane
Ken Park
Kill Bill vol. 1
Kill Bill vol. 2
Kingdom of Heaven
Kings and Queen
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
KNOCKED UP
Kontroll (2003)
Kung Fu Panda
Kung-Fu Hustle
la captive (2000)
La Chatte à deux têtes (Porn Theater) (Jacques Nolot 2002)
La Ciénaga
La mujer sin cabeza (The Headles Woman) (Lucrecia Martel 2008)
La Niña Santa
La Vie en Rose
Lady in the Water (M. Night Shyamalan 2006)
Last King of Scotland
last life in the universe
L'Emploi du temps (Time Out) (Laurent Cantet 2002)
Les chansons d'amour (Christophe Honoré 2007)
Les Destinees
Let the Right One in
Letters from Iwo Jima (2006)
Lilo & Stitch
Lilya 4-Ever
Little Miss Sunshine
Little Otik
Lord of War (2005)
Los Angeles Plays Itself
Lost in Translation
Lucky Number Slevin
Man on Wire
Marci X (Richard Benjamin 2003)
Marebito
Maria Full of Grace
Marie Antoinette
Martyrs
Masked and Anonymous (Larry Charles 2003)
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
May
Mean Girls
Memento
Memories of Murder
Metropolis (2002)
Miami Vice
Michael Clayton
Milk
Million Dollar Baby
Minority Report
Mooladé
Moon
morvern callar (2002)
Moulin Rouge
Mulholland Dr
Munich
mutual appreciation
my summer of love
My Winnipeg
Mysterious Object at Noon
Napoleon Dynamite
New World
New York Doll
night watch (2004)
Nine Lives
No Country for Old Men
No End in Sight
No Man's Land
Nobody Knows (Hirokazu Koreeda, 2004)
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
oasis
Ocean's Eleven
Oldboy
OSS 117: Cairo, Nest of Spies
oxford murders
Palindromes
Panic Room
Pan's Labyrinth
Paradise Lost 2
Paradise Now (2005)
Paranoid Park
Persepolis
pineapple express
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
Platform
Police Beat
Pootie Tang
Power of Nightmares
Primer
Princess Raccoon
Punch-Drunk Love
Punisher War Zone
Pusher
Pusher II: With Blood On My Hands
Pusher III: I'm the Angel of Death
Quantum of Solace
Rabbit-Proof Fence
Rachel Getting Married
Ratatouille
REC
Reflections of Evil (Damon Packard 2002)
Requiem For A Dream
revanche
Riding With Giants
Rivers and Tides
Roger Dodger
role models
Running Scared
Russian Ark
Save The Green Planet!
Seconded:
Secretary
Seed of Chucky
Serenity
Session 9
Severance
Sexy Beast
Shanghai Knights
Shaolin Soccer
shattered glass
Shaun of the Dead
Shotgun Stories
Shut Up and Sing
Sideways (Alex Payne, 2004)
Signs (prolly the last dece Shyamalan)
Sileni
Silent Light
Sin City
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Sleeping Dogs Lie
Slither
Slumdog Millionaire
Snakes On A Mothafuckin' Plane
Snatch
sobibor, oct. 14, 1943, 4P.M (2005)
Son of Rambow
Sonatine
Songs From the Second Floor
Southland Tales
Speed Racer
Spellbound
Spider-man 2
Spirited Away
Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter...And Spring
Standing in the Shadows of Motown
Stay The Same Never Change
Still Life
SUGAR
Sunshine
SUPER TROOPERS
Superbad
Survive Style 5+ (2004)
Swimming Pool
sympathy for lady vengeance
Syndromes and a Century
Synecdoche, New York
Syriana
Talk to Her
talladega nights
Tarnation
Taxidermia (2006)
TEAM AMERICA
Tearoom (William Jones 2007)
Tears Of The Black Tiger
teeth
ten
Ten Canoes (Rolf de Heer, 2006)
Thank You For Smoking
The Aristocrats
The Aviator
The Baader-Meinhoff Komplex
The Believer
the big bad swim
The Bothersome Man
The Box (Richard Kelly 2009)
the call of cthulhu
The Cat Returns
The Circle
the class
The Cockettes
The Company
The Cooler
The Core
the dancer upstairs
The Darjeeling Limited
The Dark Knight
The Departed
The Descent
The Devil And Daniel Johnston
The Devil's Backbone
The Devil's Rejects
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
the edge of heaven (2007)
The Eyes of Tammy Faye
The Fall
The Fantastic Mr. Fox
The Filth And The Fury
The Five Obstructions
The Five Senses (Jeremy Podeswa 2000)
The Fog of War
The Fountain
the girl who leapt through time (2006)
The Glamorous Life of Sachiko Hanai
The Good Thief
the happening
The Headless Woman
the Hills Have Eyes (2006)
The Holy Girl
the host
the Hurt Locker
The Incredibles
The King of Kong
The Legend of Leigh Bowery
The Life Acquatic
The Lives of Others
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
The Machinist
The Man Who Wasn't There
The Man Without a Past
The New World
The Ninth Gate
the nomi song
The Orphanage
The Others
The Pianist
The Piano Teacher
The Pledge
The Prestige
The Princess And The Warrior
The Proposition
The Quiet American
The Rape Of Europa
The Return (Russian movie, I think there was another one by that name)
The Ring (2002)
The Room
The Royal Tenenbaums
The Saddest Music In The World
The Score
The Secret Lives of Dentists
The Shape Of Things
The Simpsons Movie
The Squid and the Whale
The Station Agent
The Target Shoots First (Christopher Wilcha 2000)
The Taste of Tea
The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada
the transporter
The Triplets of Belleville
The Vertical Ray of the Sun
The Village (M. Night Shyamalan 2004)
The War of the Worlds
The Wayward Cloud
The Weeping Camel
The Werckmeister Harmonies
The White Diamond
The Wicker Man
The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill
The Witnesses
The Woods
the world
The Wrestler
Them aka Ils
There Will Be Blood
thirst
This Is England
Thomas est amoureux/Thomas in Love
Together [Lukas Moodysson]
Tokyo Gore Police
transporter (2002)
transporter 2
transporter 3 (2008)
Triad Election
Tropical Malady
Trouble Every Day
Twilight (Catherine Hardwicke 2008)
Unbreakable (M. Night Shyamalan 2000)
Undertow
United 93
Unknown Pleasures
unknown white male
up
Urbania (Jon Matthews 2000)
Vanilla Sky
Visitor Q
Waitress
Waking Life
walk hard
Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
Wall-E
War Story (John Baumgartner 2001)
We Jam Econo: The Story of the Minutemen
Wet Hot American Summer
What Is It
What Time Is It There?
Wild Zeroblack book
Wind That Shakes the Barley
Wolf Creek
Women of the Night (Zalman King 2000)
x-men 2
Y Tu Mamá También
Yi-Yi
You Can Count on Me
You, the Living
Zatoichi
Zodiac
Zoolander

is it me or is that pretty much EVERY movie that came out in the 00s

i know not everyone has seen 'DUMPLINGS!!' yet but it's one to watch before you vote

is DUMPLINGS! the one from the three extremes collection whatever?

The Last Samurai
28 Weeks Later

crazy/beautiful

xposts That one had way more crotch bleeding than I could handle iirc

24 Hour Party People
24hr party people

dupes

Also, I want to nominate Shortbus

speaking of crotch bleeding: Cabin Fever

Wendy and Lucy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUMPLINGS!_%28film%29

no Twilight Samurai, no cred

no Dude, Where's My Car? Figures you'd miss the one good dumbass comedy of the decade!

Ten
Crimson Gold
Bad Education
Volver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ63t7Kaa2Y

idk, it's pretty much the worst film i saw in 2008, have no idea how you got there.

― history mayne, Thursday, December 3, 2009 2:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ah now come on. you saw the oxford murders and son of rambow, right?

― caek, Thursday, December 3, 2009 2:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

to be clear, this wasn't a nomination of those films.

lolol at two crimson gold mentions in two days

twilight samurai was great