Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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Everton lost, then.

I think they can still make it through though.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

They (Everton) were a little unlucky. Villareal won it with a half chance. I like the midfield of Arteta, Neville and Cahill. Davies not so much.

Their talents are a little bypassed when Big Dunc comes on.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

We're not quite good enough at this level; it's a shame Osman and Kroldrup weren't fit enough to figure. Never looked likely to score after their second goal.

Oh well, we were frequently better away from home last season - a performance like the one at Villa Park in March would see us through.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

I have erased that from my memory, along with everything else.

Will you make my wife your Flickr friend, please? She is trying to see the Ava pix, but is being rebuffed.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

(I don't know how to do this for a Flickr user I've never encountered; can't she make me her contact, then I can accept that and then make her my friend? I did a search for A******a, found five but I'm not which one is yr missus).

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

(Oh, scratch that - the 4th one is obviously her. It is done.)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

why on earth was the Everton match not on TV last night? I had 2 stations showing Man U's boring victory.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

It was on tv here, either BBC1 or ITV2, can't remember which

― Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

BBC1 had the Man U game, I get ITV3 but not ITV2, sadly ITV3 mainly shows programmes lost in the annals of time. It's annoying, is ITV2 where all the games are on then? Cos last week I'd have watched Celtic above Liverpool, given there was something to play for, but again I had no choice.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

It was, I think, on ITV 2, according the the clips on the news. We haven't got ITV 2, and we can hardly see ITV 1. I'm not bovvered.

Thank you, Michael.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

Yes, she is the fourth one.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

I watched some of the Everton match on ITV2.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Yes, ITV2 - there's generally an alternate match on there during the group phase when ITV1 have the big ratings-puller. ITV2 also has the Everton second leg on 24/8.

(I think we have ITV3 on more than any other channel).

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

Those repeats of Never The Twain and Rumpole Of The Bailey ARE irresistable it's true...

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

ITV3 has Midsummer Murders. The old series too with Sergeant Troy. Brilliant.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Midsomer! Oh, the Leerdammer commercials! My aching sides!

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

If they showed the same adverts that came inbetween the programmes when they were first shown I would watch THOSE.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

ITV3 condense the original two hour shows into 90 minutes and many episodes now make no sense, "cut out that bit with Gabrielle Drake burying the body in the garden, it's not important."

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

Er, do they? I thought they still had 2-hr slots, or do they only reserve those for the sainted Jason and Thaw?

I find it had to imagine Midsomer Murders being any longer than it seems on ITV3.

(Only a flurry of CSKA goals will break this thread digression).

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

I thought ManYoo on the Beeb was a bizarre choice in the circs although I have ITV2.

Everton hard up against it. They were unfortunate that Villareal scored with 2 half chances, although V could also have had a pen. E are going to have to score at least 2 over there, a tall order, V impressed me defensively and it looks like they can create goals out of nothing. Some of their passing didn't impress me as much as it did the commentary team, they seemed to get nervous when aggressively closed down, but they may be better at home. Everton will need a large slice of luck, I think, to progress.

― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Do Everton go into the UEFA Cup if they lose?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Frankie is right, I'm afraid. The 'Yellow Submarines' were very good, indeed, and will possibly be even better at home. Based on what I saw last night, I think they'll do well in the Champs' League. Oh and Riquelme was terrific.

I like the fact they went on a Beatles tour on Tuesday. Or is it really normal for visiting European sides to do this when they're playing in Merseyside?

― Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Yes they do.

It would be great to see Everton progress. I was talking to my wine about this last night. I think it's only Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Newcastle and Blackburn who have played Champions League football. Aside from wishing all Engliush teams well, it's nice to see new blood in the competition.

I wonder how this compares with Italy / Spain etc in terms of the hegemony of previous entrants. I can't be bothered to work it out.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

Michael you are forgetting about Leeds United, who I believe reached the semi-finals of the competition as part of their warm-up for playing Luton Town this season.

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

I dearly hope that wine wasn't just a typo for wife there, Mikey.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

Do'h!

I still laugh at the 7m quid they played for Seth Johnson.

Not a typo. Girlfriend was out. Summer work party! It was pizza, wine and football for me, lazing on the couch in my undies.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

Leeds got knocked out by Rangers, no? Quarter finals at most, I think.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

No they got knocked out by Valencia in the 2001 semis. So ner.

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

The Nun.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Try as I might, this has been completely erased from my memory too.

Are you making it up?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Rangers put Leeds out in 92/93, which was still the European Cup I think.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Would I?

http://www.soccerbase.com/cup2.sd?competitionid=66

Harry Kewell was in that squad, therefore it's almost on topic.

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Rangers put Leeds out in the last knockout round to qualify for the first group stage of the first Champions League.
The group stage was 2 groups of 4 with the group winners meeting in the final. Some Rangers fans claim this technically counts as a semi final, as a goal against CSKA Moscow in the last game would have put them in the final.
Rangers were unbeaten in the tournament with 6 wins and 4 draws. I was gutted for them :-P

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

The Valencia games finished 0-0 at Elland Road and 3-0 in Valencia.

Note, the holy grail resides there. I don't mean Leeds (obviously).

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

However, The Nun told the club website: "I admire Liverpool's taste but Nobby is an important part of our plans and will not be going anywhere."

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Cripes - JtN made an Amis joke and no-one mentioned it.

― the bellefox, Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Baros to Lyon?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/4154498.stm

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 19 August 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

What is this Amis (and can we eat it)?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 19 August 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

I dearly hope that Amis was just a typo for Amish there, bellefox.

― Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 19 August 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

New striker for Benfica:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4163486.stm

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 19 August 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

Ha, that is funny, PJ!

Deft from Mooro also.

― the bellefox, Friday, 19 August 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Bolton 0-1 Everton

Blues' first points of the season!

― the pinefox, Sunday, 21 August 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

disappointed that dioufy couldnt conjure up something:/

― charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 21 August 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

There aren't many teams that can come away from "The Reebok" with all three points.

Meanwhile, "The Strachan View" has been replaced by the equally insightful "The Hansen Hindsight" on MOTD.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 August 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

Bolton were all over us - something like 16 attempts at goal to our three; we totally pinched it. But, still, this happens often enough to Everton at Goodison (that outrageous Chelsea game the season before last springs to mind), so, have some hard cheese, Sam. ("Don't mind if I do, have you got any crackers?")

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 22 August 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

A terrible first 81 minutes, but...

HOORAY! LFC WIN THE SUPER CUP!

(But I'm left wondering why we ever bought Zenden, how Didi forgot how to pass, and why we don't sell Morientes rather than Cissé.)

― Djibril Troussé (Jerrynipper), Friday, 26 August 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

Didi's passing became kind of impressive after a while. Morientes seems listless yeah, but I say give him time. I really really really don't want Cissé to leave, it would just feel so wrong.

I don't even think I want Owen back if it means Cissé is going.

There's too much quick fix hysteria about Liverpool this season, they did look woeful before Cissé came on but it's not a striker they need necessarily, not half as much as a good creative midfielder, I mean every team we play against, even CSKA Sofia, I think when one of their players beats two of ours and looks good on the ball, I think "even HE would be good for Liverpool", there's no flair at the moment. McManaman in his peak would make this Liverpool team so so so much more effective. Figo would have been good, even Stelios.

Somebody though, a good Cristiano Ronaldo type midfielder is vital.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 26 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, a decent right winger is more important I reckon. We have Alonso and Gerrard - both creative midfielders that win matches, albeit in different ways - in our first choice midfield, along with Sissoko or Hamann doing the Makelele role. We definitely have too many strikers though. Mellor won't be forcing his way back into the team, that's for sure.

Or what about trying Zenden through the middle? He was superb there for Boro last year, after being turned into a left back at Barca and failing as a winger at Chelsea. We've bought a class central midfielder and made him play somewhere he's been proven to be average.

― Crackity (Crackity Jones), Friday, 26 August 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

No I agree, I meant a winger, Gerrard and Alonso aren't really the same type of creative midfielder as someone like Henry, or Pires, or Duff/Robben/Wright Philips, someone who can run with the ball! We play defenders on the wing so often!

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 27 August 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

You need someone like Van Der Meyde. Oh, hang on...

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 27 August 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

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