2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

in Queens, Jews+unaffiliateds beat Catholics, but there are fewer Jews

The top 50 - the BosWash corridor, South Florida, Atlanta, Denver-Boulder, Detroit, SF, LA, Philly, Vegas, Cleveland, STL, Aspen and a miniscule county near Lake Tahoe

let's wrap this shit up folks

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orly

the internet is a series of smoke-filled tubes

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let's wrap this shit up folks

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, March 31, 2008 11:49 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

if folks shut it down too early it ends up hurting more than it helps

how so? do you really think all those Hillary voters are gonna go for McCain in Nov?

i think that if hillary voters feel like the decision was made prematurely then they will be pretty mad yeah

yeah but being mad now /= being mad enough in November to vote for Popeye's Pappy

we need more rappers' opinions on this race a la DMX and now 50:

During a recent interview with MTV at his Connecticut mansion, 50 Cent told reporters that he has switched from supporting Hillary Clinton for president to backing Barack Obama after hearing his speech on race.

"I heard Obama speak," said the rapper. "He hit me with that he-just-got-done-watching-'Malcolm X,' and I swear to God, I'm like, 'Yo, Obama!' "He threw his fist in the air. "I'm Obama to the end now, baby!"

But hold on, 50 also admitted that he's become bored with the overall race for the White House.

"To be honest, I haven't been following that anymore. I lost my interest," he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/31/barackobama.uselections2008

In today's news, Hillary under fire for not paying her bills on time, Klobuchar (MN) endorses Obama.

he-just-got-done-watching-'Malcolm X,'

Yeah, because Obama must first watch a Spike Lee Joint for focus when preparing an important address on race (?!).

"To be honest, I haven't been following that anymore. I lost my interest," he said.

where'd he lose it?

Just like the mob: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/80787/

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/033108DailyUpdateGraph1_ifar_0207notecnirp.gif

Despite pressure from some powerful Obama supporters and being behind nationally in the polls, Clinton said the race should not end before all votes had been cast. "I didn't think we believed that in America. I thought we of all people knew how important it was to give everyone a chance to have their voices heard and their votes counted," she said.

I love this kind of nonsensical logic - like the voters are going to be DEPRIVED of their chance to vote if she drops out. So should Biden and Dodd and Edwards etc all have stayed in until the final primary too? lolz

If they had wanted to, yes.

it's an ironic strategy, having to overcompenstae for not planning to campaign past Super Tuesday, i guess

you may notice that she didn't frame her statement in terms of what SHE wants, but rather in terms of voters' rights

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shakey mo is gonna turn me into tracer

He's going to turn us all into Tracer.

"you'll notice hillary seems to be trying to win the nomination ... isn't that just like her!!!!"

at this point it isn't about "winning" the nomination for her anymore, its about stealing it

LOL what a bitch amirite. xp

edwards had better chances in january than clinton does now

^^^yah RLY, and for the record I have never called Hillary "a bitch"

predictions markets give hillary an 11% chance of winning the presidency which i dont believe edwards ever had

and I think Clinton's well past the "these are just normal campaign tactics" stage now, considering there's no way she can win short of basically invalidating the will of the majority of party voters.

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clearly she's going on because she thinks it's worth it to go on, and that the small chance she has is worth the cost of the attempt.

i don't agree, but i'm brainwashed, aminotcorrect

And the man in charge of Clinton's feverish effort to lock up superdelegates is Ickes, whose enthusiasm for no-holds-barred politics sometimes rattles friends and foes alike. Ickes once got so carried away that he bit another political operative on the leg. Now, some 35 years later, at age 68, he has mellowed so little that it could happen again.

"It depends on how heated the circumstances are," he says.

more:

In 1973, while working on the New York mayoral campaign of Bronx Borough President Herman Badillo, Ickes bit a man on the leg in a tussle over what Ickes considered a bad sound system.

In 1992, when Ickes was running the Democratic convention for Bill Clinton, Ickes forced a guy to climb up into the rafters of Madison Square Garden with a large knife to cut the netting in case the balloons did not drop properly. The Secret Service nearly shot the guy.

i'm a scary of this man:

http://images.politico.com/global/080225_simonsaysickes1.jpg

pics of people who are not elliot spitzer

jaime sneider @ the weekly standard blog, making funney:

Gutter Politics

Obama is apparently one terrible bowler. He scored a mere 37 at a Pennsylvania campaign event on Saturday. If there had been a children’s birthday party going on simultaneously, one fears a 4th grader or two would have bested the Democratic frontrunner.

"My economic plan is better than my bowling," Obama told fellow bowlers Saturday evening at the Pleasant Valley Recreation Center.

"It has to be," a man called out.

Bad bowling may be an omen. After all, there is some historical connection between bowling and the White House. President Truman opened up an alley in the West Wing. In 1955, President Eisenhower moved it to the basement of the Old Executive Office Building. This is actually where the photograph of President Nixon was taken. The alley was closed after 9/11.

Given this weekend’s performance, it seems doubtful that Obama will undo the Bush administration’s biggest blunder and reopen the bowling alley. In fact, earlier this month, Obama said if elected, he would install a basketball hoop on the White House grounds. Maybe if the ceiling is high enough, he could fit a whole court where the bowling alley once was and then invite MTV Cribs in for a tour.

where is the funney i did not see it

lol ... cribs!!!

last sentence, i guess

'black-sketball, more liek!!1'

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Closing the white house bowling alley is the Bush administration's biggest blunder?

The terrorists have already won.

Some people have a low tolerance for democracy. There is nothing wrong with HRC staying in the race.

There would be something wrong with HRC pulling a Tonya Harding and trying to kneecap Obama before the convention, or if she embarks on a massive campaign of bribing superdelegates - y'know, that kind of thing should earn her a lasting infamy and a cold place in hell. But if she keeps it above board, then I've got no quarrel with her staying in.

What if she's trying to damage his GE chances and thus improve her own position for 2012?

I don't think she's that evil - him getting damage is an unfortunate side effect, not the main goal.

this isn't about "democracy," it's an argument that given the appearance of a foregone conclusion that essentially can't be reversed absent the arguably undemocratic intervention of ruling elites, our club should short-circuit its internal democratic process, which is the longest in 20 years, in the interests of being more effective in the actual democratic process ahead. Who is Hillary now? Jesse Jackson '88, lol.

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First, it's not about her motives, because we can't know her motives. It's what she actually does and says that counts.

Next, gabbneb... say what? Please untangle your lips and try again.

Some people have a low tolerance for democracy.

And I thought I had a low tolerance for losing elections!

I'm saying that to the extent an ongoing primary damages us for the general (I'm not certain it does), I think it's a little more important that hillary drop out than for her to stand up bravely to give MI and FL voters a second bite at the apple. I believe she's still in, at least in part, because she believes she has a better chance of winning, but the, you know, democratic process thus far - one that as far as she was concerned should have been over 2 months ago until the unthinkable happened - doesn't agree with her, and apparently neither do the superdelegates.

I thought gabb was being perfectly clear - dragging out the primary unnecessarily may handicap the party in the fall. (Time is money you know.)

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oh dont get me wrong i totally think she should drop out, i just think that if obama supporters are heavy handed with that pressure it can end up damaging us in the long run

and then invite MTV Cribs in for a tour.

lol black guys w/nice houses be on cribs

this is where the magic happens

that Democrats / "us" shit never gets old

us referred to obama supporters u dimwit

thats the last time i complete an alley oop zing for you on the nb