UK Fnordcooler 23: Immanentizing The Eschaton - When The Pyramid Meets The Eye!

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Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

Kate's post abt the obscure locations reminds me of something in one of my school books. The word 'anachronism' is being explained. Two ramblers in v 1930s clothing -- trews tucked in socks, tweed jackets, cloth caps -- are seen in the countryside overlooking Stonehenge. One is resting on his gnarled walking stick and pointing and saying to the other "Why did they build it so far from the railway?"

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

They aren't/weren't they planning on building the 303 or some other motorway or bypass straight *under* Stonehenge at some point?

Stonehenge seems to be much later (Bronze age) than most megaliths, but still.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

It's the latter, Kate. Well, partly that and partly the geology. Apart from exceptional stuff (ie, Stonehenge), megaliths are generally made from fairly local stone. Hence, few megaliths in areas where the local stone only lasts a couple of thousand years' exposure. In some areas, "megalithic" structures are likely to have been made out of wood - see "Woodhenge" on the Norfolk coast, found a few years ago; and also Tara in Ireland.

There are also few megaliths in areas which have been intensively farmed. We know from historical records that about half of the barrows in Lincolnshire that were still extant 300 or so years ago (or, when antiquarians started to care) have been destroyed by farming.

There *may* have been regional differences in megalith building for other reasons - very localised distribution does crop up with, for example, the Clava group of megalithic tombs near Inverness - but given the widespread distribution of megalithic-type structures in general, it's unlikely that there would have been areas of Britain with no large-scale megalithic-style structures of any of the main types.


Forest Pines, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

it depresses me much that I have lived in Oxon for so long yet not visited Rollright.

maybe I should learn to drive and buy a car....argghhhhhhhh! Noooooooo! What am I saying????

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

Ohmigod, the Rollright Stones have their own website!

"please do not leave offerings on the stones. Chemical reactions caused by items left causes the stone to wear." - gotta love hippies.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

Stonehenge started off around the same time as everything else, but I think the trilithons are relatively late for megaliths. This is off the top of my head, mind.

The plan to put the A30whatever in a tunnel is still kicking about. The archaeologists were rather upset when the plans changed from a bored tunnel to a cut-and-cover, which would be rather destructive to build.

Forest Pines, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

TISSP!!! It's 98 BPM!

Ah! I knew there was something I needed to know missing from yr email!

tissp, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

I love that the Rollright Stones website puts the myths and the legends and the "wyrd" stuff ahead of any actual history or archeology. Spirals of energy and dowsing and ley lines, oh my...

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

Now I want to get an OS map and look at all the leylines.

This would make a good car trip, as we could chase the leylines all the way down to the White Horse of Uffington, even though we visited that last year, I would be happy to go again. I'm always up for White Horse Hunting! Or we could hike down the Ridgeway. I think.

I looked up Barbrook circles (From the Sons of TC Lethbridge song) but that is oop norf on teh Moors.

There was another castle/hillfort mentioned though in the Avebury alignment that I'd been to with Joe and his mum. I was good at spotting which ones were ancient and which ones were Norman.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

I got one of those fancy new Steve Hillage remastered albums last night - "Fish Rising", which was always my favourite back in the day - I cranked it up in the car on the way home & I was like OMG THIS IS THE GREATEST MUSIC EVER MADE, I even drove the long way home to hear more of it. listening to it this morning, Hillage's usual tendency to waffle & for everything to not quite join together nicely is more apparent, but still, loadsa great stuff on that album, & some great playing, esp from pierre moerlen. Lots of nickable production tricks as well. "Aftaglid" is pretty unfuckable with, there's a bit near the end where you seem to be passing through the music as it plays, I'd love to figure out how he did that.

Pashmina, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

Aren't there about a dozen alignments through Avebury?

Spotting ley lines on OS maps is great fun - all you need is a map and a ruler!

Forest Pines, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, that was meant to go somewhere else altogether, never mind.

Pashmina, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

yes, there are loads, that's why it's supposed to be such a significant sight for Wyrdoes!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

Wrong place? Er, no, please explain there's a bit near the end where you seem to be passing through the music as it plays, I'd love to figure out how he did that. because that sounds utterly fascinating.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm always up for White Horse Hunting

Oh we used to do all the time, when touring round the hellholes of Southern England

Tom D., Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

I had a whole thread about white horses, where did it go? Probably best not to revive, though, as it will be full of me gushing about Joe. :-(

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

a White Horse walks into a bar....

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

"Why the long (man of wilmington) face?"

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

.and says "Yeah yeah, Eric ale, long face all that JUST GIMME SOME CRISPS RIGHT!!!?"

Mark G, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

(oops xpost)

Mark G, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

...and says "neigh". He would've said "ouch", but horse's can't speak.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

"The horse turns to the other horse and says HOLY SHIT,A TALKING DOG!!!"

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

Wrong place? Er, no, please explain there's a bit near the end where you seem to be passing through the music as it plays, I'd love to figure out how he did that. because that sounds utterly fascinating.

Masonic Boom on Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:10 (10 minutes ago)


There's a section on the end of this track "Aftaglid", called "the golden vibe" - it's this weird bouncy riff played through an echo machine (a description which matches all steve hillage music ever, or all decent steve hillage music anyway) - after the band have run through it a couple of times, the sound kind of subtly changes, and it seems to kind of move forwards around your ears in some way - the effect is particularly strong on headphones. There's a little bit like it on a track from "Six" by Mansun as well. I'd love to work out how to do it.

Pashmina, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

...and the jockey says "you idiot you were supposed to jump it!"

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

God, they're trying to send round this whole CHARIDEEEE!!! thing for tomorrow. They want to milk us for £1 if you wear red and £2 if you don't. Feck off. Though I know someone's going to call me a horrible person for not participating. I have a direct debit that sends money off to CHARIDEEEEEEE every month, I just find this huge public breast-beating display faintly revolting.

Am I turning into a Grumpy Old Lady?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

what if you wear pink? do you have to pay £1.50?

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

You should wear a suit covered in six inch nails, and if anyone hassles you for money, threaten to walk into them.

Pashmina, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha, one of my colleagues is also bitching.

I should do some work, but my boss who asked for it is off playing GOLF.

Oh wait, I finished something yesterday evening, maybe I can fob someone off with that.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

I went without lunch once cos I got MUGGED by CHARITY

tissp, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

you can't really complain though if it's charity

tissp, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, wait. shit.

tissp, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Colleague is talking about his former employer, where they had a "wear a silly hat day for CHARIDEEEEEEE!!!" and how people would go out and spend £10 on the hat, and then put £1 in the collection jar. What is the point?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

charity helps the economy!

anyone who disagrees is a COMMUNIST

tissp, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, how can I be a communist? I read COUNTRY LIFE. Tory accusations, maybe, I will accept, but Communist? NEVER!!!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

Elektrikkomettheorie: RED MENACE

tissp, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

Kate The Red.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

electrified six inch nails. with poison on them.

Pashmina, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

yes, I'm like my great-uncle the Harley Street Socialist, I raise a glass of sherry in solidarity with the working classes on May Day.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Kate St. Red

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I am never buying Sainsburys ready lunches again. This risotto is the stinkiest thing ever. I did actually have to apologise to my colleagues for how bad it stinks. It smells like stinky feet cheese. I hope it tastes nicer than it pongs.

Back to curry next week.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

All cheese smells like stink feet. ALL CHEESE IS EVIL!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Cheese is one of the greatest achievements of human civilisation

Tom D., Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

It does taste nicer than the smell, but it would be pretty hard not to. Hating on cheese is just weird. Unless you are actually Chinese are something.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Cheese mings

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Cheese Jazz and Funk are two of the greatest achievements of human civilisation

Tom D. on Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:01 (12 minutes ago)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Brigadier, you're on your own on this one.

Are you actually lactose intolerant, or just downright strange?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

the latter?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Next you'll be telling us that beer is vile and we'll have to have you committed.

Cheese, like beer, if proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Tuomas posted something about choosing Cheese over free-will on another thread.

Mark G, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:21 (nineteen years ago)


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