Katrina's POLITICAL aftermath (keep the political discussions HERE)

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Time magazine has a long story up on Bush's reaction so far to Katrina. Free at the moment, but probably paid-access in a week or so:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1103581,00.html
President Bush was seated in the White House Situation Room, watching military and disaster officials beaming in from the Gulf Coast on the giant screen of his secure video- teleconferencing system. It had been nearly a week since Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, ripping gashes in the Superdome and swamping homes up to their eaves. Bush, more fidgety than usual, was hearing a jumble of conflicting reports about the number of refugees in the Convention Center and the whereabouts of two trucks and trailers loaded with water and food. Furious, he interrupted and glared at the camera transmitting his image back to Mississippi. "I know y'all are trying as hard as you can, but it ain't cuttin' it," the Commander in Chief barked. "I wanna know why. We gotta do better."

This was not so much a moment of executive command as one that betrayed Bush's growing sense that his presidency was taking a beating too. A TIME poll conducted last week shows how badly it has been wounded: his overall approval rating has dropped to 42%, his lowest mark since taking office. And while 36% of respondents said they were satisfied with his explanation of why the government was not able to provide relief to hurricane victims sooner, 57% said they were dissatisfied--an ominous result for a politician who banks on his image as a straight shooter.

Longtime Bush watchers say they are not shocked that he missed his moment--one of his most trusted confidants calls him "a better third- and fourth-quarter player," who focuses and delivers when he sees the stakes. What surprised them was that he still appeared to be stutter-stepping in the second week of the crisis, struggling to make up for past lapses instead of taking control with a grand gesture. Just as Katrina exposed the lurking problems of race and poverty, it also revealed the limitations of Bush's rigid, top-down approach to the presidency. "The extremely highly centralized control of the government--the engine of Bush's success--failed him this time," a key adviser said.

lyra (lyra), Monday, 12 September 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

And from further in the article, Bush (Rove's?) 3 step plan to get everyone to forget how badly they bungled this:
By late last week, Administration aides were describing a three-part comeback plan. The first: Spend freely, and worry about the tab and the consequences later. "Nothing can salve the wounds like money," said an official who helped develop the strategy. "You'll see a much more aggressively engaged President, traveling to the Gulf Coast a lot and sending a lot of people down there."

The second tactic could be summed up as, Don't look back. The White House has sent delegates to meetings in Washington of outside Republican groups who have plans to blame the Democrats and state and local officials. In the meantime, it has no plans to push for a full-scale inquiry like the 9/11 commission, which Bush bitterly opposed until the pressure from Congress and surviving families made resistance futile. Congressional Democrats have said they are unwilling to settle for anything less than an outside panel, but White House officials said they do not intend to give in, and will portray Democrats as politicking if they do not accept a bipartisan panel proposed by Republican congressional leaders. Ken Mehlman, the party's chairman and Bush's campaign manager last year, told TIME that viewers at home will think it's "kind of ghoulish, the extent to which you've got political leaders saying not 'Let's help the people in need' but making snide comments about vacations."

The third move: Develop a new set of goals to announce after Katrina fades. Advisers are proceeding with plans to gin up base-conservative voters for next year's congressional midterm elections with a platform that probably will be focused around tax reform. Because Bush will need a dynamic salesman to make sure that initiative goes better than his Social Security proposal, advisers tell TIME there is once again talk of replacing Treasury Secretary John Snow. There are no plans to delay tax cuts to pay for the New Orleans reconstruction or the Iraq war, and Bush is likely to follow through on his vow to veto anticipated congressional approval of increased federal funding for embryonic-stem-cell research.

lyra (lyra), Monday, 12 September 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

we're fucked.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 12 September 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/45060#1043617

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 12 September 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Eisbar, its not as bad as you imagine. Right now, the President is about as unpopular as he's ever been, far more so even than in the runup to the election. While he may not be seeking a second term, the republicans in the Senate and House will be. And if they start to see their poll numbers decrease from following the president in lock step (and one would imagine they will), the tenuous grasp the Republican Party has on the Congress could disappear.

(one worry I have though is that many of the seats up in 2006 are with safe candidates or in safe places, like Montana, or with Richard Luger. R. Michael DeWine and Rick Santorum will be especially picked on. plus Frist is retiring, which might help)

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Monday, 12 September 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm hoping Santorum's nutty comment about liberals being at fault for the Catholic Church's child molestation scandals will become a campaign issue. Even Rush Limbaugh had a hard time rationalizing that one.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

'...dewatering...', The 43rd President of the United States of America, George Walker Bush.

he didn't invent that. some of the rescue guys have been using it too. it's funny to think of "dewatering" as some kind of actual scientific term.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

xpost

Santorum is toast, but it'll take more than that pickup for the Democrats to take the Senate next year.

M. V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

having grown up in PA, i can't explain Santorum in the first place. so i wouldn't be so quick to write him off.

frankly, i am pretty fucking despondent about the general state of things. sorry.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

'...dewatering...'

Dewatergate!

Oh man, the "tax reform" fight is going to be a riot. If you can watch it from a spaceship or something. The thing is, they probably won't make any more headway on it than they have with "Social Security reform," but the whole shebang might be enough to keep the Dems on the defensive and negate any hopes for congressional gains in '06, which is all Karl's really aiming for. I think that's what Democrats maybe haven't fully grasped about these guys, is that it's all about survival from one election to the next, staying in charge. It doesn't matter if they actually get any laws passed or anything, it's enough for them to just control the levers of money and influence, because as long as they can do that, their friends can get paid. Krugman and a few others have written about this, but what we're really dealing with here is just straight machine politics, and the machine mostly exists to keep the machine running. Assorted ideologies are welcome to come along, for as long as they juice the engine, but they're really just means to an end, and the end is to just keep going.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/0509/movies/blame_game.mov

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

-- President Bush says he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

CNN breaking news email

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

along with that note, this is currently up on the CNN frontpage:

Hurricane Katrina's floodwaters may have damaged 160,000 homes in New Orleans beyond repair, an official with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said today. Also today, President Bush said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina. "To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said.

the attached article says El Doofus will address the nation on Thursday from Louisiana. Who wants to take bets whether he'll say shit like, "Ya see, this great response just shows how well private industry can respond to disaster," or make at least 3 separate 9/11 references...

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Movie linked to by Stence OTM.

It's important not to overstate the impact of FoxNews though. It's oft-cited ratings are more a result of a devoutly loyal following than a large mass of viewers. All that stuff mainly serves to rally the believers rather than convince the non-believers.

I also don't buy at all that the Democrats have somehow "lost the news cycle" on this one. Bush is still really vulnerable on this and will be for a long time. His approval rating is looking pretty bad, and people are very upset. No one wants to hear that, in the event of an emergency, only their local government is responsible for their safety.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I also don't buy at all that the Democrats have somehow "lost the news cycle" on this one.

who's claiming that? i don't think that's the case considering even the older, conservative types in my family (most of whom live in the south) are forwarding around the same jokes and negative bush stuff that's on this thread!

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

sorry if this is a redundant post

This is from the FEMA website:

Disaster . . . it can happen anywhere,
But we've got a few tips, so you can be prepared
For floods, tornadoes, or even a 'quake,
You've got to be ready - so your heart don't break.

Disaster prep is your responsibility
And mitigation is important to our agency.

People helping people is what we do
And FEMA is there to help see you through
When disaster strikes, we are at our best
But we're ready all the time, 'cause disasters don't rest.

emilys., Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

The Rude Pundit on how disasters tend to remind the rest of us that poverty is still a massive problem, and how we tried to deal with it 40 years ago...

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

FEMA! Rap

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

having grown up in PA, i can't explain Santorum in the first place. so i wouldn't be so quick to write him off.

word -- there be some REAL right-wing crazies in pennsyltuckey (esp. out towards allentown and york/hanover/gettysburg). on the other hand, if my relatives are right man-on-dog has worn out his welcome in the philly metro area and he should capture precisely ZERO counties down there (including places like bucks, delaware, and montgomery counties).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

holy shit:

Halliburton Gets Contract To Pry Gold Fillings From New Orleans Corpses' Teeth
September 14, 2005 | Issue 41•37

HOUSTON—On Tuesday, Halliburton received a $110 million no-bid government contract to pry the gold fillings from the mouths of deceased disaster victims in the New Orleans-Gulf Coast area. "We are proud to serve the government in this time of crisis by recovering valuable resources from the wreckage of this deadly storm," said David J. Lesar, Halliburton's president. "The gold we recover from the human rubble of Katrina can be used to make fighter-jet electronics, supercomputer chips, inflation-proof A-grade investments, and luxury yachting watches."

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

the sad thing is, that the onion story is TOTALLY believable wr2 halliburton and mister "go fuck yerself" cheney.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

xpost There's probably a lot of money to be made with all those platinum grills and whatnot.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

can someone plz revive the "It's September 2005 in Iraq" thread? I can't find it.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Click on the "Show All updated threads" link at the bottom of the New Answers page and it should be there.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

I tried to search it before posting above -- didn't work.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

did you scroll down to the bottom of the New Answers page, and click the "Show All Updated Threads" link?

that would result in New Answers from the last 7 days, of which this is one:

It's September 2005 in Iraq

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

the Senate opens their panel, of which Joe Leeeb is the ranking Democrat.

yeah, this'll help.

Be sure to check near the end, too, for the Republican complaints bit...

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Similarly, they just killed a bid for an independent commission. 44-54, along party lines.

Looks like we'll need an organized group of survivors again...

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

the Senate opens their panel, of which Joe Leeeb is the ranking Democrat.

joe loserman will bring the exact same zeal to this panel that he did wr2 the enron panel. which means, the fix is on.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Presidential Prayer Team
(this is not a joke.)

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

yeah, and more folks are spreading the "see? see how well private industry and NGOs work better than the gunmint?!" thing around...

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Memo shows Chertoff delayed fed response:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/krwashbureau/20050914/ts_krwashbureau/_wea_katrina_response_exclusive

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

It's a weird world.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

but expected

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

how low xx post

youn, Friday, 16 September 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

Mallory Factor?

southern man, Friday, 16 September 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

As in Malefactor? Did Satan write that?

southern man, Friday, 16 September 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

Katrina: The Gathering

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 16 September 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

Kevin Drum tries to disprove some of the rumors flying around. I'll leave it up to you to decide how successful he is.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

God, that Mallory piece is so...I mean, "Tax Cuts Are Katrina Relief," this Randian idea that the best thing you can do for other people is be selfish. So fucked up.

Meanwhile, New Orleans is apparently just another stage set for the ongoing action-packed adventures of George Bush, Bold LeaderMan.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

If the National Guard were not in Iraq, would the Homeland Security Department need to hire mercenaries for New Orleans?

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 16 September 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

Also, I am reminded of this recent Naomi Klein article on "disaster capitalism" (though its emphasis is on foreign policy):

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050502/klein

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 16 September 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

media companies soon fell back in line with disaster coverage and got deeper involved with the ruling party:

...CNN’s parent company, Time Warner, announced the hiring of DeLay’s chief of staff as a top Washington lobbyist. This news, and its timing, prompted Jeff Chester of the Center for Digital Democracy to tell the L.A. Weekly: “Time Warner aligning itself with the right-wing DeLay machine should send shudders [down] CNN and HBO. Clearly, TW wants DeLay insurance so it won’t have to face cable-ownership safeguards, à la carte rules and broadband non-discrimination policies.”

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

Two things:

-new orleans is being re-evacuated due to the oncoming tropical storm/hurricane thing.

-george lakoff's Huffington Post on the political aftermath, with a little bit of John Roberts coverage for fun.

Use the common wealth for the common good to better all our lives.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)

The House Republican Study Committee's report on what should be cut in order to pay for Katrina (because inheritance tax is Not An Option). Fun stuff, including the cancellation of NASA's entire Moon/Mars project and Bush's Hydrogen Fuel Initiative…

carson dial (carson dial), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

is this the one that overestimates the cost of one program by 1000x?

also, you all know about Turd Blossom going off to North Dakota instead of actually doing the whole "cooridate the hurricane relief effort" thing for which he got appointed, right?

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

From The Nation:


sidebar | posted September 23, 2005 (web only)
GOP Opportunity Zone
Naomi Klein


This is a list of "Pro-Free-Market Ideas for Responding to Hurricane Katrina and High Gas Prices," circulated by the House Republican Study Committee. Attributions included where available.


Automatically suspend Davis-Bacon prevailing wage laws in disaster areas. (Reps. Marilyn Musgrave, Colorado, Tom Feeney, Florida, Jeff Flake, Arizona)
Make the entire affected area a flat-tax free-enterprise zone. (Rep. Paul Ryan, Wisconsin)
Make the entire region an economic competitiveness zone (comprehensive tax incentives and waiving of regulations). (Rep. Todd Tiahrt, Kansas)
Immediate, first-year business expensing in lieu of depreciation for all assets, both personal property and structures (buildings) in the affected areas.
Allow net operating loss carry-backs for affected residents and businesses going back as many years as is needed to actualize the NOL.
For residents and businesses located or investing in the affected area, their 2005 and 2006 capital gains and dividends rate should be zero.
Individuals in the affected area should have a Section 911 (overseas earned income) exclusion that is uncapped.
Waive the death tax for any deaths in the affected area between August 20, 2005-December 31, 2005.
Provide limited liability protection for construction contractors who voluntarily provide services or equipment before a government contract is finalized. (Rep. Gary Miller, California, Rep. Tom Cole, Oklahoma)
Repeal or waive restrictive environmental regulations, such as NEPA, that hamper rebuilding. (Heritage Foundation)
Waive penalties for early withdrawals from tax-advantaged savings (like IRAs and 401k accounts). (Heritage Foundation)
Eliminate any regulatory barriers and other disincentives that block faith-based and other charitable organizations from engaging in the recovery and reconstruction process. (Orthodox Union, Heritage Foundation)
Increase the amount of rehabilitation tax credits by 30 percent in census tracts where the greatest poverty exists, and for smaller projects where raising capital for reconstruction is the most difficult, and where there is the most critical need for housing and neighborhood reinvestment. (Rep. Phil English, Pennsylvania)
Allow non-itemizers to deduct chartable contributions to disaster relief. (Rep. Ron Paul, Texas)
Give school-choice vouchers for displaced children. (Rep. Ted Poe, Texas)
Provide tax (and other such) incentives to lenders if they provide funding for school and other construction.
Reduce, suspend, or eliminate tariffs on Canadian lumber, Mexican cement, and other materials used for new construction.
Permit an additional advance refunding for all governmental bonds issued by or on the behalf of entities contained in the disaster area as declared by the president.
Eliminate the volume cap for private-activity bonds in the disaster area and permit the use of private-activity bonds for all transportation-related infrastructure in the disaster area.
Eliminate the income and home price limitation for mortgages funded by tax-exempt mortgage revenue bonds for a five-year period.
Allow a non-profit corporation to issue tax-credit bonds--which provide a return in the form of a federal tax credit--and allocate the proceeds for school rehabilitation and reconstruction.
Streamline the environmental hurdles to building new oil refineries. (Rep. John Shadegg, Arizona)
Make it easier for small refineries to increase capacity. (Kansas's Tiahrt)
Allow more offshore oil drilling. (Texas's Poe)
Pay the royalties for new offshore oil drilling to the local governments nearest to shore. (Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, California)
Allow drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
Temporarily suspend the gas tax. (Arizona's John Shadegg)
Permanently reduce the gas tax.
Waive or repeal gas formulation (e.g. oxygenation) requirements under the Clean Air Act and related regulations. (Heritage Foundation)
Encourage the production of renewable fuels (biodiesel, ethanol.)
Encourage private-market projects to recover usable energy from oil shale.
Strengthen the existing investment tax credit for Enhanced Oil Recovery (using modern technology improvements to extract oil from previously unavailable sources) in section 43 of the IRS Code.

Source: House Republican Study Committee

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 24 September 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Some of those aren't bad (Biodiesel), and some are really, really horrible ("Automatically suspend Davis-Bacon prevailing wage laws in disaster areas.").

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Saturday, 24 September 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

Allow drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

and some of them won't really help at all, aside from just attacking environmental laws

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 24 September 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

Well, a lot of those won't help at all, which is why I said that some are really, really horrible. Most of them, frankly, are just things that conservatives would like to see pushed through anyways, and if a hurricane relief effort is the way they can package it to the American people, then they're gonna try.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Saturday, 24 September 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)


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