your acid stories

it is something i would advise anyone reading this thread who hasn't tried acid to be very careful about.

^this x 1000

I have personally forsworn psychedelics until I have 100% of my shit together, mentally, physically, etc.

Heh, good luck with that.

ha ha! ya.

maybe you need the acid to get your shit 100% together

hahah

maybe you need the acid to get your shit 100% together

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I wouldn't foreswear all psychedelics, but I'm pretty sure I won't be doing acid ever again. The aforwmentioned reason of The Filth is one big part of it -- it's just crazy hard on your body. It's not too easy on your brain, either. It's so... EPIC.

And really past a certain age, or past a certain length of time since the last time you did acid, it's probably not the greatest idea. I don't know this for a fact; it's a theory, though. Acid is a young person's drug. The complete loss of your usual means of cognition is easier to take when you've only half figured that out, anyway. A 20 year old is going to be a lot more comfortable with the loss of control of their thoughts than a 40 year old, and be more able to accept it and roll with it. The older you get, the more set your brain gets in its ways of perceiving and dealing with the vat that it's in. I haven't done acid for 10 years at least, and I don't really know what walls I've built and knee-jerk mechanisms I've developed in that time. I can't even guess where I'd end up if I let acid blow them all away. It could be amazing and life-changing, I guess. But it could be really, REALLY horrifying.

I'd still do a nice low dose of mushrooms any day, though. Gimme a bag of good, chill weed, a quality dried ounce, and a couple of days with nothing to do, and I'd be happy even by myself. I miss the way music sounds when you're that giddily fucked up.

Dried GRAM. Not a dried ounce. Holy fuck.

A 20 year old is going to be a lot more comfortable with the loss of control of their thoughts than a 40 year old

I'd bet that it's probably a very individual thing.

man I totally disagree with the young vs old thing. I think taking it in your formative years is potentially way more damaging than once your brain is mature. I had a "bad trip" the 2nd time I did it, and I seriously think it might've affected my ability to communicate/increased my introspection. I could barely engage in a conversation of any depth for about a month, and who knows if that ability ever returned to the level it was at before. But since there's no control subject obv it's impossible to know.

xp It's also possible that once you've done acid, your brain never forgets how to deal with it. I won't ever forget that state of mind. At least, I don't think so, but memories are tricky.

And these are all just my own thought on the matter, remember. I don't know shit, not really.

Dried GRAM. Not a dried ounce. Holy fuck.

You would be in firey screaming rainbow tyrannosaurus skull vomit land.

I feel like I can handle my mind going through this sort of fuckery MUCH better now than when I was a teenager. I haven't tested this however, at least not with acid.

Anxiety-prone teenage me was probably wise to have avoided the stuff.

only done it a few times in high school and it must have been low-grade b/c i only remember that weird agitated feeling in the back of my neck. plus my skin felt a little weird and my eyes looked strange in the mirror.

Acid is so... geometric. Sharp. There aren't words, really.

mushrooms only once, also in high school, was much more fun

i was wondering abt that. what makes acid a young person's drug (obv drugs are a young person's realm - but acid seems to be especially so) and i'm glad someone else here is pointing that out.

i think it has more to do with your thoughts and where your mind typically goes when aloud to wander. an older person will have a mortgage, some debts, a serious relationship, maybe a few kids, a career, maybe even health concerns. very few 20 years old have this shit going on - and i'm sure even if they did, they would not be thinking about it as often as a 40 yr old would be. at first i thought it was more about the brain anatomy or wiring like Kenan was saying. but i think it just comes down to the fact that the older we get the more things we have to worry about - and we worry about those things more.

huge xposts!

I took 3/8 oz. mushrooms once and THAT was firey screaming rainbow tyrannosaurus skull vomit land. I thought I had turned into the lower case letter k for a little while.

xp I can't imagine, for instance, doing acid with my dad. I think thermo is on to something.

I wish I'd waited until I was at least 18 before tripping.

Yeah, I think the age thing might be a "speak for yourself, kenan" situation. I just turned 46 and would not hesitate if the right opportunity came up.

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read through the xposts and i guess people who are disagreeing with the young/old divide are still sighting mindset as the primary reason. which would make my above post part accurate.(?)

wow xposts!

approx 20 xposts (the ones about 15 mins ago)

with kenan on both those posts. acid feels to me like a clean chemical wipe of the brain, as though it's been smeared with mercury which causes the effects that happen (i'm not explaining this well but bear with me). shrooms feel far more organic (daft word to use i know...), but the trip feels like it emanates from inside you rather than being pasted onto you. and i think the internal emanation is easier to deal with when the going gets rough.

like kenan i don't know whether i could handle a full-on trip anymore at 42. probably could in an utterly brilliant natural setting with great mates, but i worry that the changes i've been through in growing older would make the introspection that much harder. it's far easier in teens and early 20s with life in front of you to not have hang-ups about what you've done or not done.

slightly off-topic but a few years ago i finally finished my phd write-up. having had to forswear my regular weed for a few months in order to get the damn thing written, i thought i'd have a small hit of some medium strong weed that had been at the back of the shelves for all that time, just a little pipesworth while i chilled and watched the pages emerge from the printer. then i started reading a bit of it and began to panic. i could suddenly read all the pretence of my writing, of my ideas, of all i'd done for the previous 6 years. and as at root the thesis ended up being a lot about me you can guess how the next couple of hours went. even at the viva weeks later i was struggling to articulate anything positive about what i'd written.

hey Will - wanna come over and drop?! maybe listen to some Floyd?! i has Sega!

I wish I'd waited until I was at least 18 before tripping.

Read this as "stripping", but ditto.

I thought I had turned into the lower case letter k for a little while.

abbott that sounds rather grim

strip tripping?!

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xp That's my email signature.

not sure about Floyd and I've never gotten into video games, but the rest of it sounds pretty good.

(first time on mushrooms was with my best friend and some other guy he barely knew and I had never met before, and the stranger insisted on cranking The Inner Mounting Flame. Bad choice -- too fucking many notes!)

i always felt that acid was "cleaner" over mushrooms. like feeling it go through my body, the energy flowed with alot more ease like my body was metal. mushrooms was more like trying to send the energy through plastic - it would not flow as easily, there would be more resistance and possibly even some melting.

I just turned 46 and would not hesitate if the right opportunity came up.

agree both with this and with kenan's thesis of young/old. i can very easily picture a great place and situation to drop in again, but i'm probably not going to go to the expense (financial and temporal) to do it. who knows, if i'm still going in 30 years or so i might feel like it's a great thing to do. but i do have too many things on my mind to enjoy letting go. like the guy at work a year older than me who just died of a massive stroke out of the blue.

right now i could do with being teleported to de dampkring in amsterdam and having a toot of some hugely light high weed.

xpost - never played Sega?! well i think we have the makings of a very good trip here, sir!

aaaaaiiiieeeee

Alls I know is, if I can wake up in the middle of the night nearly in mid-panic-attack, unable to understand the purpose of my existence but unable to stop asking the question, trapped in a sinister loop, no WAY am I doing acid anytime soon.

i worry that the changes i've been through in growing older would make the introspection that much harder. it's far easier in teens and early 20s with life in front of you to not have hang-ups about what you've done or not done.

Interesting. This makes me think maybe I'd enjoy hallucinogens more when my life, career etc are settled as my biggest fear is THE FUTURE and all its vagueness. Not that THE FUTURE ever goes away but maybe if I'd established the trappings of an adult I'd have more of an identity going in...I've never done acid but I've done mushrooms & 2ci (and dramamine lol + ;_;) and I think the problems came from my general lifelong lack of ego. Best trip I ever had was on a Halloween & I think it was bcz there was a wacky lol context for it.

Amon Tobin would be much better tunes than Floyd tho anyday - so lets go with that.

damn xposts!

btw anyone gets a chance to do 2ci (or others in the '2c family') I HIGHLY RECOMMEND, every time it was just colors and joy and endless super great feelings.

Kenan, are you 40?

Amon Tobin would be much better tunes than Floyd tho anyday

Fuck yeah. I'll take side 1 of Supermodified over Wish You Were Here anyday.

xp I'm 35

yes, context is all. you can have the shittiest of self-thoughts but if you're having a blast it just is right.

has this thread developed a tripping trajectory of its own, has it gone from the initial euphoric story-and-image-telling to the inevitable introspective what-is-REALLY-happening-now?!

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My perspective is, after living in the middle of nowhere for the last 8 years and having really nowhere to wander but the hallways of my own brain, I have a hard time thinking that acid or mushrooms could spring any surprises about myself on me, and if it gave me some interesting sensory input, hellzyesbringit.

xpost thumbs up to Amon Tobin

xp I blame myself for the introspection. Lesson: don't trip with me.

my mind is constantly occupied with my workplace laying everyone off (i know i'm safe tho)(for now), my first long term relationship in a long time (and that i think i suck at it) and my mom who is recovering from a serious stroke (and me having to manage her nightmare finances for her for a bit and retrofit her house etc etc) - and i'm pretty sure if i dropped my mind would eventually go to these not-so-happy places and i'd give myself a psychedelic stress lobotomy. 10 years ago i didn't give a crap about shit and stuff like zoomers was fun.

xposts!!!!