come anticipate Miami Vice with me

http://www.leftfieldcinema.com/misunderstood-modern-cinema-miami-vice

Mann in the past has been well known for some of the ill-conceived music choices he made in his 1980’s films Manhunter and The Keep, in the case of the former in particular the soundtrack was the biggest issue the film has to contend with

absolutely no desire to read any more in an essay that contains this sentence

lot of run-on sentences in that post

Thief's score is worse.

i dont remember the score from thief which is usually a good thing w/ mann ficks--collateral and miami vice both had horrendous soundtracks (which i think sort of "worked" with the aesthetic), but manhunter had a rad soundtrack iirc

Thief had that Tangerine Dream score, which was great.

omg garda da vida (or however you spell it) is fucking ace!

okay that was less of a score, as it was a part in the film. the score was amazing too.

That article . . . ugh. It did make one valid point: The film would have been better served if it wasn't named Miami Vice. I suppose it's okay to belittle the audience for expecting to see a rehash or parody or pastiche of the TV show. But it's also hard to blame the audience for those expectations, since they were set by a deliberate choice of the filmmakers, who undoubtedly wanted the film to benefit from a direct association with the show.

The problems with this movie weren't addressed in the article. First, the acting was wooden. Second, Colin Farrell -- who absolutely was the lead, with everyone else, including Foxx, as distant supporting players -- had no presence, charisma, or charm. Third, quite a bit of the dialogue was hamfisted, and it stood out even more because of Mann's effort to make the film gritty and realistic (the dialogue wasn't helped by the acting, e.g., the stiff "I'm a fiend for mojitos" line).

i dont get why its weird to call the film miami vice? the aesthetic of the movie and the aesthetic of the show seemed pretty similar to me.

There are better articles than that one on the film, seeing as it has been elevated to the level of masterpiece by the blogosophere.

seems like whoever wrote that isn't familiar with the original series at all

yeah

was thinking maybe piscesx wrote it

i think the acting style and dialogue is vastly secondary to how the film was shot, scored, edited, and framed. not a criticism, i just think that mann was trying to make an entire picture of nothing but "michael mann moments" (and trying to get some kind of emotion from what some folks might find to be a cold style and story) and he succeeded. it's like 'gaucho' or something.

i was actually lookin for the miami vice dvd last week and couldnt find it anywhere, i was suddenly overtaken with the urge to listen to the commentary~

i will say that the score of manhunter was super distracting to me for some reason, normally i dig that kind of crap

not readin that gay article tho

i think the commentary is only available on the director's cut, which isn't as good as the theatrical. shame.

my man michael mann's manhunter

watched this again recently---i think omar's kinda right, in that the acting really is secondary to what mann is trying to do visually/etc., and that's basically OK (then again, i really just intensely disliked colin farrell)

but i dunno, it's too long (would rather watch Heat), and i think Collateral did just as well at capturing that aesthetic (or w/e) and was just a tighter, more enjoyable film in general.

it's funny to say something is too long and then say you'd rather watch heat.

watched this again recently---i think omar's kinda right, in that the acting really is secondary to what mann is trying to do visually/etc., and that's basically OK (then again, i really just intensely disliked colin farrell)

I don't disagree. But that just means, in the overall scheme of things, acting is secondary to other elements of the film. It doesn't mean that the dialogue has to be bad or the acting stiff and flat.

aesthetically it was manns best - in other ways it was one of his worst - but it all kinda worked in a purposely non working style - i enjoyed it immensely - especially the flying parts - so much so i saw it 2 times on teh big screen

it's funny to say something is too long and then say you'd rather watch heat.

― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:32 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

uh? what i mean is: if i'm gonna watch a long-ass michael mann movie, i'd rather watch Heat

does anyone understand the promise and peril of dv better than mann - no one does - think abt it

also i think i would've enjoyed this MUCH more if i'd seen it in the theater

soderbergh, maybe? xp

i dunno

lol soderbergh doesnt know shit about shit

i fart on him

was gonna say

if u say so! i don't think i've seen a soderbergh movie since traffic (lol), just know that he's really "into" dv

i am not a soderbergh guy really but i thank him for telling clooney he sucked, causing him to vastly improve

but it was spielberg who told him to not move his head around so much

also obv i am retarded because i have seen all of the ocean's AND solaris (which i don't really remember thx w3333d)

lol out of sight is good - after that naaaaah

gotta say tho that i really, really love dv/HD when it's done right

mee too

there were a couple of crazily wonderful scenes in public enemies where i was all wow he just showed me something

public enemies is frustratin for me, there's stuff in it that's as good as anything he's done since heat but idk if i could even watch it again cuz of the scenes where the feds beat up his old lady, 2 hard 2 watch

yeah that was unpleasant

totally missed public enemies

will have to see it over the holidays

i dont....really see movies much

i see all of the movies

yeah gbx i knew what you meant but since you left out "if i'm gonna watch a long-ass michael mann movie" it kind of read funny.

i see all of the movies

― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:50 AM

i know how do u manage to do that

special goggles

more like special *googles* imo

that too

from sharper image i bet

i used to just hang around in that store til they made me leave

me and my pals brandon and doug