d is trying to impress the lowrise dudes with his worldly wisdom, and maybe even convince himself that he's cut out for more of a thinking man's role
^^^
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 November 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i own this whole series but my ex wound up with the last disc of the last season, so i never saw the last two episodes. i don't feel real deprived tbh.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 November 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
???? see them hoos!
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, 16 November 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
what i'm getting at is that by that point in s5 i felt kinda disinvested in the whole thing. in s5 it felt like marlo was still this utterly boring cipher (and that impression wasn't gonna get blown up in the space of the last two eps), mcnulty & lester were being written completely against type, herc & carver were rarely of any fun/interest to follow solo, kima was caught in this uninteresting character loop, and if The Detail was gonna do its thing at all (the group chemistry was among the main reasons i liked the show) it was gonna do it in a severely truncated way.
idk, i just don't really feel like i need to see them unless you're telling me those last two episodes are super stellar or story-resolving in comparison to the rest of the season
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 November 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
theyre not stellar but theyre funny and heartbreaking and resolve lots of storys. its like youve gotten to page 480 of a 500-page book and are like... oh well why bother
― max, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i agree that the chess scene is a bit heavy-handed and seems a little contrived. it seemed to me that it's major function was character development - that D'angelo was a thoughtful guy and might be out of place in the drug game.
xp - the last two episodes pretty much just resolve what happens to most of the characters and illustrate the cyclical nature of that society - characters step into roles vacated by other characters.
― sarahel, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link
If the chess scene is d's idea, it's no surprise that a character should come up with a cliché. Writers try to avoid them, but real people don't.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
unless you're telling me those last two episodes are super stellar or story-resolving
dude
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, 16 November 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
xp - of course, and there are plenty of cliches that come from the mouths of the characters in the Wire - that particular scene seemed a little incongruous stylistically though.
― sarahel, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
it's not so much d's delivery of it, but rather that the other two otherwise street smart guys take it hook line and sinker and pretend it's some great apercu
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, 16 November 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i feel like the writing got better in later seasons, and they started working with the medium more - in terms of editing and structure - to make points/commentary. I want to say, starting around season 3, the show did a lot more parallel construction showing the similarities between the hierarchies and systems of the different groups it was following.
― sarahel, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
It definitely gets more impressive as it accrues narrative mass. The beauty of later seasons is the precision with which all the intricacies fit together. The first season is basically a superior police thriller.
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Monday, 16 November 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
while we're pointing out flaws can I mention the utter lol that is przyblewski the fuckup making a great insight that his smarter, more competent companions couldn't see
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, 16 November 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link
this is foreshadowing.
― sarahel, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Prez... The kid's a prodigy.
― EDB, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
lol hoos u crazy. last two eps of season 5 are way better than the rest of it, btw.
― horseshoe, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
There's one scene where Carcetti's reaction is hilarious - and should be (if it isn't already) an animated gif
― sarahel, Monday, 16 November 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, November 16, 2009 9:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
um thats not a 'flaw' thats called a 'character'
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, 16 November 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/user/hh1edits#p/u/0/-Sgj78QG9Bg
― cutty, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
― max, Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
I have done this many times
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm also stalled halfway through season 3, not sure if these are related phenomena
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link
― cutty, Monday, November 16, 2009 6:10 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
did i miss it or did they skip "pinstripe lawyerly affectations"
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
that is absurd
― cutty, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
perhaps edward iii should pitch a slate article about this
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
did he have hands? did he have a face? yes? then it wasnt us
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link
to be fair that's some pretty profound shit to hear if you're a 16 year old drug dealer
I know that conversation was yesterday, but I find myself very much on Tracer's side about this: what's an embarrassing metaphor to ilxors is not necessarily embarrassing to all, including not only 16-year-old drug dealers but also corporate managers, readers of motivational texts, churchgoers, and really basically 90% of America
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
that said, as a viewer it's not exactly like some deep stuff, true
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
My issue with it was that it was incredibly close to the content of a scene from the movie Fresh.
― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah and Fresh >>>>> The Wire
sorry guys but its true
― Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
*folds arms*
― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Shakey went too far.
― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link
fresh is better than the wire vs traffic is as good as the wire
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha i am so glad wire threads will never die so i can never stop getting disproportionately pissed off by stuff people say about it.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
― harbl, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
that's one of my favorite lines.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, November 16, 2009 7:17 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark
Wallace and Bodie weren't particularly street-smart (by wire standards at least) at this point of the show
― whiney on the moon (hmmmm), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link
and they're more like 14 than 16, no?
― zing touch me I'm (sic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:36 (fourteen years ago) link
bodie was, wallace wasn't
― sarahel, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link
seriously think for one second about all the shit that blew your mind when you were 16
― mark cl, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, November 16, 2009 6:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yep. "tweedy impertinence," too. no Jay quotes, no cred.
― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah these are some preachy ass 100 quotes
― Danny Duberstein (hmmmm), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i love the wire 4ever but fuck if i hear another quote about 'the game'
― mark cl, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Not reading this, as am only near the end of season 2, but is Omar the best character on TV ever?
― Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Indeed.
― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Omar's role in the series always seemed kinda obvious and irritating to me - he's the one guy that's unbeholden to any of the institutions that trip up everyone else, and he has this moral code that he lives by, he only robs/kills criminals, he loves his momma, etc. And as an extra bone to all us open-minded liberals out there, he's GAY! Its all just so ridiculously idealized. This from a show that otherwise prided itself on its realism...
― Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
anyway my favorite character was Prop Joe.
I see what you're saying, and yet he's just so much damn fun to watch.
― Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
xpostHis performance makes it easy to forgive all that, for me anyway.
― Brio, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah Omar is fun. he allows the viewer some rare moments of satisfaction re: people getting what they deserve, etc.
― Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxp shakey - i don't think he feels much for his momma, he was raised by his grandmother.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link