I just finished book #10 of Robert Jordan's stupid series.

kind of forgot what happened to brigitte?

she's with elayne maybe?

so is this series over now or

heh this in now on my xmas list. glad to hear it's decent.

so is this series over now or

I believe the "final book" has now been split into a three book sequence.

u have correct beliefs

nick yah shes still chillin with elayne and her children

so so so good

after all the buildup some of the resolutions felt a tad rushed but also just felt like the momentum of the last battle coming and everyone is RACING to get sorted

mat, one of my fave characters, did feel off but think he is one of the harder ones to write, fully expect taht this will be sorted by the next book, Towers of Midnindght so ghenji (sp?) and black, no

egwene, who became one of my faves after she tricked the rebel hall into giving her war powers and then sat down romanda & lelaine, moves in this one into new territories of goddamm

verin even more sneaky and awesome than could be expected

it was strange to finally see people explaining themselves to others, wonder how much of that was due to all the fan complaints and how much is meant to convey the sense of urgency as ppl wake up and realize, oh shit, something bad is coming

i cannot wait for the next two, oh god, i will have been reading this series for over 20 years by the time its done

Yeah Verin came back with a massive bang in this one and pretty much definitively showed why she was far and away the most awesome Aes Sedai in the book IMO.

I counted exactly one instance of arms being crossed under breasts.

Really liked this. The Verin thing legitimately surprised me. Looking forward to seeing what Rand's character will be like in next book, what's the deal with Callandor, what the reunion with Moraine will be like, etc. Been reading this almost 20 years myself!

;_; i can't remember who the fuck verin is

She's the Brown Aja Aes Sedai who sort of stumbles/weasels into Moraine's and Siuan's plotting and starts helping them out near the beginning of the series. She's pretty fascinating, particularly if you read the entire series back to back, and this book explains why and it's completely fucking awesome.

ah yeah, the one who resembles a mole in my head.

I don't know if we're allowed to drop spoilers so I'll just say I was WAY off in my theory about her. (seems stupid now but kinda thought she was a gandalf like character...)

I was half-right and was incredibly super-psyched about the part where I was wrong (ie, the motivation).

i'll kill you guys if you don't shut up

or y'know, i could just get the book but nonetheless

haha get the book, it's awesome and a superfast read

kind of psyched to read other Sanderson stuff now, he was never on my radar before

Only thing about sanderson's writing that bugged me was overusing italics. (only noticed because I have the same problem.)

haha i remember that from mistborn his characters have a really terrible habit of thinking in italics

hi dere i think you'd really vibe sanderson's mistborn series it may have been discussed on the fantasy thread but he came up with a really ingenious magic system and there's a neat story with-in a story format to it: each chapter starts with an excerpt from a historical (to the novel's world - what's the word for that?) text that becomes increasingly important to the main story

also all three books are already out

between this, erikson and the black company boks (as well as what lamp just said, maybe) i'm pretty chuffed with my reading options going into 2010

and can we just get an ooh child for egwene!!

i've already arranged for my only friend here who reads this series to farm her kids off to her ex so she can have the weekend to read and catch up so i can talk abt the book with someone (and yes, i am that addicted)

Egwene rocks serious balls in this, yes. Total force of nature, the exact polar opposite of Rand in many ways.

also lol Elaida

oh lord, just went and read the other robert jordan thread and found this forgotten post by me

too much sniffing, toomuch snorting, too much angst by Rand over his harem, too many refernces to sheepfarming, dice rolling, not enuf action and too many years in between each book. that said, i will continue reading tho i will probably be 40 by the time it ends.

i need to muster up the energy to order the last one actually.

― H (Heruy), Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:53 PM (6 years ago)

6 bloody years ago and yes, i will be 40 by the time its done

ah elaida, is it bad that i start humming elaida to miriam makeba's malaika?

I'm 40 next year and I'm hoping I don't turn 50 before GRRM finishes his damn thang.

I just turned 40 last week and I've been reading these damned things since I was in my teens...

Wait was the first WoT book written in the 80s? That can't be--

First book was published in 1990.

xpost

A quick check shows the first 2 were in 1990... so I was only just out of my teens...

Yo peeps also how awesome was the verin plot reveal.

That kind of shit is where RJ is pretty unique - he laid the groundwork for that back in book 2, and the moneyshot had to wait almost two decades.

Read up to the end of Winter's Heart back in 8th grade, and by the time the most recent two came out, didn't bother refreshing my memory because Crossroads of Twilight was such a slog, and the series seemed to be perpetually treading water, despite the cleansing of Said'in, etc. Is the new one good enough/resolves enough that it's worth rededicating myself to the effort?

lol well i mean...

Crosswords was probably the most diffuse in the entire series. Knife of Dreams was the most focused since about book 5 and the new one is probably the most focused in the entire series. Basically from Knife of Dreams onwards it became structurally necessary to reverse the trend of setting up two new sub-plots for every one resolved.

crossroads (lol) is the worst book in the series by a long way - nothing happens to the lamest characters for like 700 pages - but they all seem a little less of a trial if u read the series from book 1 on steadily. thats how i recommend reading b4 jumping into the newest couple

convergence and revelation sing more sweetly if u can remember who tf every1 is imo

Yeah, the main problem with that stretch of the series IMHO is that getting the books every couple of years meant you're sitting there going, "wait, I'm supposed to even remember toveine or yukiri or etc, let alone care about them?"

If nothing else the way in which the new one in particular starts to stitch things up (e.g. for the White Tower tangle of plots alone you get unification of Egwene-in-tower, elaida, black-ajah-hunters, what's-verin-up-to, what's-sheriam-up-to, lelaine-or-romanda-who-will-win, oh-noes-a'rangar, siuan-and-gareth, why-is-gawyn-a-psycho-tool, mesaana, foretold-seanchan-attack-oh-noes, probably a couple more I'm forgetting right now... into a single, neatly tied up plot) starts to cut down on the number of things the narrative will need to keep checking in on.

"That's what really sucks about all this too is that there're so many loose ends that I'm madly curious about, like what ever happened between Mat and the Daughter of the Nine Moons, and was there ever any more about the people on the other side of the desert all the way off the map to the east that ritualistically kill their kings all the time or something like that. And what about the lizard people through that one doorway, huh? Ooh! and what about that bad guy that only appeared in one scene in one book who could apparently channel the True Source and had a blue line crossing his eyeballs and scared the shit out of the other bad guys!?
But I'll be damned if I'm going to read the books to find out.
I don't know if I'm still super-nerdy for even wanting to know about this stuff, or if I'm redeemed by refusing to knuckle under and read 5 more books about bickering Aes Sedais.
― Dan I. (Dan I.), 03 May 2005 02:31 (4 years ago)"

next book plot summary?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apJJ0NzOXEg

lol but still... HYPE

11.02.10

lol but yeah but lol

last one was so good

lol dan i is so otm. i know i'm nerdy enough to at least read some spoiler summaries of everything i missed, once the series is finally finished. definitely don't think i have what it takes to reread everything in order to get back into it. seriously tho, what was up with those lizard dudes?

i cant remember the lizard dudes ;_;

last one might be the best book. Sanderson is able to work in Jordan's style without succumbing to Jordan's penchant for excessive repetition. Felt less padded than the any of the six or seven prior books.

last one is without much doubt the best of the last 6 or 7, yeah, but books 1-3 are similarly nonstop widening of scope while driving the story and 4-6 are still pretty kickass for the most part.

just glad it got back to anywhere near that level tbph

Kind of keep being dumbfounded by how much of this there is. I have read the first two books.

i'm not recommending to go fwd with anymore just yet, but if it finishes as well as the last book suggests then i'd say the purgatory of the middle 4000 pages is worth it

I'll repeat again that, while it bogs down somewhat, it's actually easier and more engaging to read the entire thing at once, largely because you don't have time to forget who characters are.

the juggalos in book 9 are definitely the highlight btw chap

Rand Al'J

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_good_juggalo_names

and to think the only thing ever stopping me penning the great fantasy work of our time was not being able to come up with character names. smh.

theres a piece by zach baron in the believer about the series: http://www.believermag.com/issues/201010/?read=article_baron. its p good as on overview but it spends a lot of time talking around the stuff that makes the books special. one of the things that he touches on - the layering and foreshadowing that jordan does - is kinda interesting to think about. theres never really been a time when the series wasnt in progress & i wonder if the books will suffer by ending? certainly a lot of what seems to occupy ppl online is the working out of various mysteries & theories - parsing the clues or w/e.

still p hype for the next book tho - only a couple of weeks!

did anyone up in this bitch used to read or pos to rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan? those folks were the ultimate nerds but it ruled.

I never got around to reading that; I was so into the music groups that I never had time to branch over into the book groups.